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5y, 7m agoPosted 5 years, 7 months ago
So i own a rottweiler he's 10 months now and whenever he's at home he's fine play's with the kids and is very friendly. Now when i take him to the park he gets very aggressive will bark at other dogs and get very confrontational with them.

So im considering buying an electric collar for him, just so when he misbehaves i can correct him as he has become immune to the slight tap on the nose. I would also like to let him off the leash once in a while so he can have a good run around but obviously not the way he is behaving now.

So has anyone used an electric collar or could advise me which one would be best for a very big chunky rottweiler.
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5y, 7m agoPosted 5 years, 7 months ago
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#1
Google "Sharon Bolt"....dog trainer. She's great and I use a lot of her methods. You can buy cd's/dvd's or register (costs per month) but I believe shes good. It takes time but you must be persistent and patience.
#2
Don't get an inhumane shock collar they are lethal, either get some training or use one those spray collars instead. Negative punishment, such as slaps / shocks etc, is not something you should use to train your dog not to do something.
#3
i have never come accross one but would think it inhumane..cant imagine what kind of effect it would have on the dog but it sounds horrible..
#4
simplyjimbo
Don't get an inhumane shock collar they are lethal, either get some training or use one those spray collars instead. Negative punishment, such as slaps / shocks etc, is not something you should use to train your dog not to do something.


agreed-plus,be aware that shock collars are illegal to use in certain parts of the UK now.
#5
plumberman01
i have never come accross one but would think it inhumane..cant imagine what kind of effect it would have on the dog but it sounds horrible..



I tried one on myself and believe me they are terrible and lethal, if I can feel the immense pain / shock they give out a dog will feel it much more. They are never to be considered a tool to cure any behaviour issues, they are cruel just like getting a stick and hitting them with it.

If you have a gas cooker put your finger over the electric spark, or even a bare wire on a plug, and hold there for a while, then imagine the pain many many times worse then you are no where near the pain these devices give out, especially when on full power

Edited By: simplyjimbo on Apr 29, 2011 19:11
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Train the dog and train yourself.
#7
Are you hoping to let the dog off the lead in the park? Or a field away from other children?
1 Like #8
beth3735
Are you hoping to let the dog off the lead in the park? Or a field away from other children?



Personally regardless how well trained a particular dog is I would never let them of a lead in a public place, especially a large dog or one known for aggression. Consideration to others is my thought on it, plus many parks are now adopting the approach of dogs on leads at all times.
#9
I would ditch the electric collar idea and opt for a cattle prod.
1 Like #10
Also consider getting him neutered for obvious health and aggression. This should help with the aggressiveness but you still need to get him trained. My girl was trained by that 'MiK' bloke off dog borstal and he worked wonders...

Treats and toys can go a long way in training... Stay away from any type of collar and do some lead training. Start getting him socialising with as many other dogs as possible obviosly supervised and go from there.
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cant believe you even think about shocking your dog!!! put it round your own neck, see how you like it.
3 Likes #12
stephchapman1980
cant believe you even think about shocking your dog!!! put it round your own neck, see how you like it.

It's a rottweiler not a mink scarf.
#13
simplyjimbo
beth3735
Are you hoping to let the dog off the lead in the park? Or a field away from other children?


Personally regardless how well trained a particular dog is I would never let them of a lead in a public place, especially a large dog or one known for aggression. Consideration to others is my thought on it, plus many parks are now adopting the approach of dogs on leads at all times.

Exactly my thought, I have kids who I take to the park to play safe, I hate it when I see owners take their dog off a lead, It bounds up to my son and they just say "oh don't worry he won't harm you" How can they 100% know that this dog will not harm! I don't like rottweilers anyway, Nasty looking dogs.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pet-Corrector-Dogs-Cats-Product/dp/B001A36B8Q

its basically just a can of compressed air that makes a loud shhh noise. just give your dog a command and if it doesn't do it. give it a spray. Rottys are very intelligent and will learn very quickly. don't be lazy with a electric collar there not nice at all. Only use as a last resort. you can even get spray collars which are better but still a bit mean. Try a pet corrector and see how he responds to it. worked a treat on my staffy cross and most of the dogs at the kennel where I work which were aggressive. i deal with a lot of dogs every day this is def the better option
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beth3735
simplyjimbo
beth3735
Are you hoping to let the dog off the lead in the park? Or a field away from other children?



Personally regardless how well trained a particular dog is I would never let them of a lead in a public place, especially a large dog or one known for aggression. Consideration to others is my thought on it, plus many parks are now adopting the approach of dogs on leads at all times.


Exactly my thought, I have kids who I take to the park to play safe, I hate it when I see owners take their dog off a lead, It bounds up to my son and they just say "oh don't worry he won't harm you" How can they 100% know that this dog will not harm! I don't like rottweilers anyway, Nasty looking dogs.


thats crazy. its a park... dogs have been in parks for years. my staffy cross is always off lead in the park. I know my dog cause i have trained him .Dog owners have just as much right use the park as you and Rottweilers are one of the nicest breads ive seen and i see a lot of dogs
#16
Can you get these for kids? My 2 year old can be REALLY naughty!
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Nightmare
beth3735
simplyjimbo
beth3735
Are you hoping to let the dog off the lead in the park? Or a field away from other children?


Personally regardless how well trained a particular dog is I would never let them of a lead in a public place, especially a large dog or one known for aggression. Consideration to others is my thought on it, plus many parks are now adopting the approach of dogs on leads at all times.

Exactly my thought, I have kids who I take to the park to play safe, I hate it when I see owners take their dog off a lead, It bounds up to my son and they just say "oh don't worry he won't harm you" How can they 100% know that this dog will not harm! I don't like rottweilers anyway, Nasty looking dogs.

thats crazy. its a park... dogs have been in parks for years. my staffy cross is always off lead in the park. I know my dog cause i have trained him .Dog owners have just as much right use the park as you and Rottweilers are one of the nicest breads ive seen and i see a lot of dogs

Its not crazy in my eyes. My children come 1st and I will always feel people who let their dogs run free by a childs park are asking for trouble, no matter how well you know or have trained that dog. But then thats my opinion and how I feel about my kids. It may be a narrow minded opinion, but then I just want my kids safe in a park. I agree about all dogs being on a lead in a childrens park, there are fields for dogs to go to.

Edited By: beth3735 on Apr 29, 2011 20:30
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beth3735
Nightmare
beth3735
simplyjimbo
beth3735
Are you hoping to let the dog off the lead in the park? Or a field away from other children?


Personally regardless how well trained a particular dog is I would never let them of a lead in a public place, especially a large dog or one known for aggression. Consideration to others is my thought on it, plus many parks are now adopting the approach of dogs on leads at all times.

Exactly my thought, I have kids who I take to the park to play safe, I hate it when I see owners take their dog off a lead, It bounds up to my son and they just say "oh don't worry he won't harm you" How can they 100% know that this dog will not harm! I don't like rottweilers anyway, Nasty looking dogs.

thats crazy. its a park... dogs have been in parks for years. my staffy cross is always off lead in the park. I know my dog cause i have trained him .Dog owners have just as much right use the park as you and Rottweilers are one of the nicest breads ive seen and i see a lot of dogs

Its not crazy in my eyes. My children come 1st and I will always feel people who let their dogs run free by a childs park are asking for trouble, no matter how well you know or have trained that dog. But then thats my opinion and how I feel about my kids.

Dont forget all that dog poo oO
#19
fair enough, plenty of parks that require dogs are kept on leads. stick to them. (i know not all people are responsible enough to abide by these rules but this is the minority)
#20
Im sorry if you got a dog that would snap,and you got kids i say get rid,he/ she might play fine with the kids//but why take the risk

Edited By: timtom13 on Apr 29, 2011 20:39
#21
Watch Cesar Milan (The Dog Whisperer) on Sky Discovery channel - Great tips to train handlers.
#22
oh an id muzzle him. as with a collar, spray or whatever if he goes for another dog it will be hard to react quick enough to stop it
#23
My wifes dad had a alsatian from a puppy,gr8 dog loves kids so he thought, then one day my son walk`s in to there home and the dog" jumped up" and bite him on the arm.The next day the dog was put down
#24
I agree with Beth plus not everyone is welcoming, for one reason or another, to dogs anyway. I know some people who are scared of dogs even the small 'cutey' types. A friendly dog will seek attention and the non dog lover may not welcome it.

As a dog owner myself, I welcome the dogs on leads in parks rule as it makes the walk easier for both myself and the non dog owners. If I want to let her run loose I will take her to an open field where the public do not go. Plus I can control and keep an eye on where my companion toilets and clean up after her, where as a dog on the loose can toilet anywhere and the owner may not spot it which is when the 'I am a responsible dog owner' statement will not have any effect if the dog warden sees it.
#25
ill be honest i dont like dogs near my kids at all unless i know the dog personally-esp lage breeds and i grew up with alsations, but my dad trained them fom pups and they were gentle. I dont know how he did it tho.
I dont think they way is violence tho..
#26
A proper dog trainer will sort your problem....we used an ex police dog inspector (George Grayson) and he was bloody amazing....I'm talking miracle worker! Used to have to take our old dog out and watch out for other dogs, if we saw one it was a case of winding the lead up with one hand, hold onto something solid with the other and brace yourself.....I'm not joking either! He HATED the dog across the road with an absolute passion......within 3 weeks both dogs were able to go to the same class in the same car.

Personally I wouldn't go down the road of electric dog collars....have you tried the brass training disks....we used them with our chocolate lab for unwanted barking and jumping up at people....worked a treat!



Edited By: luvvlychocolate on Apr 29, 2011 21:13
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Nice choice, I've had Rottweilers all of my life and they are fantastic, their personalities are great- far from the aggressive personality people seem to think they have, I have a 7 year old and she still thinks she's a pup! Soft as anything, and great with children. Get lots of books on the breed, and read as much as you can!

I'm not even going to comment on the shock collar as I'm surprised you would think of doing something like that to your own dog!

As others have said, you need to go to training, to train yourself and the dog, the earlier the better! Not all training is expensive either, I used to take mine to free training groups in parks and the change in her personality was huge, they will usually have trainers who work with the more needy dogs on 1 to 1 aswell. They will usually ask for a donation and are usually ran by professional trainers in their spare time. Just make sure it's reward based- you don't want to be punishing your dog- ever!

PS. dogs pick up your own emotions, if your passing another dog and your nervous they'll pick this up and they'll be nervous too hence the barking, with dogs, a lot of behaviour is controlled by the owner- without even seeing or knowing it. I hate it when people pick up their tiny dogs when passing me and then they wonder why they start barking their head off!


Edited By: krato on Apr 29, 2011 21:34: .
1 Like #28
Like others have said he needs socialising a course of lessons would help greatly muzzle him when out until he's under control and you should be fine,I agree all dogs should be on a lead in a public park,I have no problem with rotties good dogs its the ankle biters what I watch out for :)
#29
How the hell do I exercise my dog if I can't take her off a lead in a public park? My dog is harmless - my kids climb all over her and she loves it. I have no doubt at all that she would die protecting either one of them if she had to. Dangerous dogs should be kept on leads, harmless ones shouldn't.
#30
Other people may not know that your dog is a softie you have to consider their feelings too. Long walks are a way of exercising your dog not just letting a dog loose to run on its own, if you want to let it loose do as mentioned find a place / field where the public aren't likely to be. Parks are for all not just dog owners who want to let their dogs run loose. I walk my companion on a lead and she is happy for that, I know if she is running loose she can look intimidating when her baggy chops are swinging everywhere yet I know she is a softie but people and some dogs do judge on appearance / looks.

Also at the end of the day a protective dog can also flip in to a dangerous dog just by being protective of its master/s

Edited By: simplyjimbo on Apr 30, 2011 08:12
1 Like #31
How the hell do I exercise my dog if I can't take her off a lead in a public park? My dog is harmless - my kids climb all over her and she loves it. I have no doubt at all that she would die protecting either one of them if she had to. Dangerous dogs should be kept on leads, harmless ones shouldn't.

You walk it on the lead and exercise yourself at the same tim :) You know your dog, other's don't....supposing your dog approached a child in a friendly manner and the child was terrified and screamed/lashed out/ran away.....can you 100% guarantee that your dog won't react?

We have a field near us and only there do we let him off the lead to run around...if we go to the park he's on a lead which is how all dogs should be in such an area ....the amount of times we've had someone's inquisitive off-lead pooch approach ours and start a fight isn't funny!
banned#32
R + K = A (E > K)

Key:
R = Rottweiler
K = Kids
A = Accident
E = Ego
banned#33
JonnyTwoToes
R + K = A (E > K)

Key:
R = Rottweiler
K = Kids
A = Accident
E = Ego


Too complicated.

OP = Div is much easier to understand.
#34
simplyjimbo
Other people may not know that your dog is a softie you have to consider their feelings too. Long walks are a way of exercising your dog not just letting a dog loose to run on its own, if you want to let it loose do as mentioned find a place / field where the public aren't likely to be. Parks are for all not just dog owners who want to let their dogs run loose. I walk my companion on a lead and she is happy for that, I know if she is running loose she can look intimidating when her baggy chops are swinging everywhere yet I know she is a softie but people and some dogs do judge on appearance / looks.

Also at the end of the day a protective dog can also flip in to a dangerous dog just by being protective of its master/s


Your argument is the equivalent of saying "some people are afraid of black people, so we shouldn't let them in parks on their own". Sure a tiny minority of black people (and white people and dogs) cause problems, but we can't punish those that don't as a result. My dog needs to run, and there is nowhere near me sher can run without the public being around.
banned 1 Like #35
luvvlychocolate
How the hell do I exercise my dog if I can't take her off a lead in a public park? My dog is harmless - my kids climb all over her and she loves it. I have no doubt at all that she would die protecting either one of them if she had to. Dangerous dogs should be kept on leads, harmless ones shouldn't.

You walk it on the lead and exercise yourself at the same tim :) You know your dog, other's don't....supposing your dog approached a child in a friendly manner and the child was terrified and screamed/lashed out/ran away.....can you 100% guarantee that your dog won't react?

We have a field near us and only there do we let him off the lead to run around...if we go to the park he's on a lead which is how all dogs should be in such an area ....the amount of times we've had someone's inquisitive off-lead pooch approach ours and start a fight isn't funny!
are you not tresspassing on this field or do you own it?
1 Like #36
Get a grip people! Exercising one's dog in a kiddie playground is stupid and shouldn't be done, but in a PUBLIC PARK then as long as it is under control there should be no complaints. By under control, I don't think they should be bounding up to random children, but equally random children shouldn't charge at other people and their dogs. Keep your animals ie your children under control and I'll keep mine under control.

I can't believe what this country is coming to, over legislation is completely ridiculous.
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JonnyTwoToes
S + K = A (E > K)Key:S = Stupid ownersK = KidsA = AccidentE = Ego


Have fixed it for you

Not saying op is a stupid owner, but 'accidents' don't just happen with rottweillers, in my experience they are some of the kindest, loving most intelligent dogs I have met
#38
luvvlychocolate
How the hell do I exercise my dog if I can't take her off a lead in a public park? My dog is harmless - my kids climb all over her and she loves it. I have no doubt at all that she would die protecting either one of them if she had to. Dangerous dogs should be kept on leads, harmless ones shouldn't.


You walk it on the lead and exercise yourself at the same tim :) You know your dog, other's don't....supposing your dog approached a child in a friendly manner and the child was terrified and screamed/lashed out/ran away.....can you 100% guarantee that your dog won't react?

We have a field near us and only there do we let him off the lead to run around...if we go to the park he's on a lead which is how all dogs should be in such an area ....the amount of times we've had someone's inquisitive off-lead pooch approach ours and start a fight isn't funny!


Control the child.

If your child hit my dog, the child is out of control.

Edited By: zannaz82 on Apr 30, 2011 09:59
#39
profet
[quote=simplyjimbo] Your argument is the equivalent of saying "some people are afraid of black people, so we shouldn't let them in parks on their own". Sure a tiny minority of black people (and white people and dogs) cause problems, but we can't punish those that don't as a result. My dog needs to run, and there is nowhere near me sher can run without the public being around.

I think you'll find the clue to why this is not the same is in the name. Dogs are not people, they are DOGS.



Edited By: agnes on Apr 30, 2011 10:07
#40
profet
simplyjimbo
Other people may not know that your dog is a softie you have to consider their feelings too. Long walks are a way of exercising your dog not just letting a dog loose to run on its own, if you want to let it loose do as mentioned find a place / field where the public aren't likely to be. Parks are for all not just dog owners who want to let their dogs run loose. I walk my companion on a lead and she is happy for that, I know if she is running loose she can look intimidating when her baggy chops are swinging everywhere yet I know she is a softie but people and some dogs do judge on appearance / looks.

Also at the end of the day a protective dog can also flip in to a dangerous dog just by being protective of its master/s


Your argument is the equivalent of saying "some people are afraid of black people, so we shouldn't let them in parks on their own". Sure a tiny minority of black people (and white people and dogs) cause problems, but we can't punish those that don't as a result. My dog needs to run, and there is nowhere near me sher can run without the public being around.


Dogs have a different behaviour and mindset to a human. I agree it is a minority that spoil it for the majority just like the way the government on doing their best to get all of us to tag or license our dogs in one or another. Again a punishment for the responsible dog owner but accidents do happen as we have seen in the news of recent times.

You have to consider there are those that don't want a dog in their face when they are out, even I don't want someone else's dog in my face if I am out with my wife and daughter at a park. As far as the laws probably go dogs are not the public merely just companions / pets we take with us.

If you want your dog to have a good run put on some trainers and run the streets with it then you both will get some good some the exercise. Well I am off out with my companion for a long walk / run all on a lead, not forgetting my poop bags and her drink.

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