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7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months ago
There have been many offers posted for these things which are for ebuyer, dealextreme, and brands such as Gamucci electronic cigarettes. Now finally tests have been carried out on these 'safe' Chinese made cigarettes (remember the people who put melamine into their own childrens milk, the people who used lead paint in Mattel toys)



Electronic cigarette smokers warned of chemical dangers

Smoke-free alternative contains carcinogens

By Rachel Shields

Sunday, 26 July 2009

Smokers using battery-powered electronic cigarettes to beat the smoking ban were warned yesterday that they are being exposed to poisonous and carcinogenic chemicals.

The e-cigarettes, which provide a smoke-free "high" by vaporising a liquid mix of nicotine, flavourings and other chemicals, were found by a scientific study to contain carcinogens and toxic chemicals such as diethylene glycol, which is found in anti-freeze.

While UK companies selling the cigarettes claim that they "contain none of the dangerous, carcinogenic toxins and chemicals that are found in standard cigarettes", the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which tested 19 varieties of electronic cigarette, warned that it was "concerned about the safety of these products and how they are marketed to the public". Despite the health fears surrounding e-cigarettes, their sale is not regulated by the Health Protection Agency or any other health body in the UK. A trading standards spokesperson said: "There is no specific regulation for electronic cigarettes, as they are not tobacco products. They are just subject to regular trading and safety laws as electrical products."

Concerns were first raised about the possible dangers of electronic cigarettes in the UK after a boom in sales linked to the introduction of the smoking ban in 2007. The FDA expressed concerns that e-cigarettes have not been submitted for evaluation or approval. While they are banned in some countries, such as Canada, e-cigarettes are available from a range of UK websites, with prices starting at about £39.99 for the cigarette, and nicotine cartridge refills available for less than £1 each. Some contain flavourings such as strawberry and caramel, which health campaigners fear may appeal to children.

"Electronic cigarettes are allowed on the marketplace without being subjected to the comprehensive testing required of medicinal products," said Deborah Arnott, director of Action on Smoking and Health (ASH). "We would recommend that anyone trying to quit should use medicinal nicotine products such as patches, gum or the inhalator, which have been tested and found to be both safe and effective, rather than electronic cigarettes."

However, anti-smoking campaigners argue that the risks posed by electronic cigarettes are still lower than those of ordinary cigarettes. "Cigarettes contain thousands of different chemicals, many of which are carcinogenic and are particularly dangerous when burnt, and kill half all long-term smokers," Ms Arnott said.
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7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months ago
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#1
They actually feel like you are smoking a cigarette
#2
if anyone is serious enough about not smoking you won't need all these gadgets. shifting the blame is childish, take some responsibility for your (and those of people close to you) health and hygiene.
#3
I use 'one' of these and top it up myself using a separatley bought liquid from a trusted UK supplier.. havn't felt healthier in years..

'What nobody seems interested in reporting about the study, however, is its conclusion—which hardly warrants the critical reception e-cigarettes have received thus far. According to the EPA’s own report, both brands of e-cigarettes they tested contained “tobacco specific nitrosamines and tobacco specific impurities […] at very low levels,” and of the 18 nicotine cartridges that were tested, only one contained diethylene glycol, and only at 1 percent.'
from: http://www.examiner.com/x-12638-El-Dorado-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m7d26-FDA-wrong-about-ecigarettes-says-FDA-study
#4
kippy;5858077
if anyone is serious enough about not smoking you won't need all these gadgets. shifting the blame is childish, take some responsibility for your (and those of people close to you) health and hygiene.

:thumbsup: KIPPY I LUB YOU
#5
kippy
if anyone is serious enough about not smoking you won't need all these gadgets. shifting the blame is childish, take some responsibility for your (and those of people close to you) health and hygiene.


But there is no passive smoking involved and nothing unhygenic about it. People who have tried all other kinds of Nicotene replacement thearapy find they can still 'smoke' without the health risks :whistling:
#6
It is easy for somebody who does not have an addictive trait, or an addiction to simply scoff, how lucky you are..... unless you do have an addiction to something else? Maybe more socially acceptable? I am a smoker and welcome anything that will help... because it is difficult to stop.
#7
jonb2412
It is easy for somebody who does not have an addictive trait, or an addiction to simply scoff, how lucky you are..... unless you do have an addiction to something else? Maybe more socially acceptable? I am a smoker and welcome anything that will help... because it is difficult to stop.


It's doable. Everyone says it is really hard and I tried to give up several times with no success. However I found it really easy in the end, cravings were few and far between, had a week of depression about a month after giving up but apart from that not too hard... lot of good points: I could enjoy a meal without rushing to finish so I could smoke, didn't feel guilty anymore. My trick was watching all those programs like 10 years younger where people have smoked and lost all their teeth etc.
#8
Its definitley do-able but so many who give up find themselves smoking again for one reason or another. I just think we shouldn't be so quick to blanket condem something which is essentialy is just an advanced form of NRT.
If it helps people to remove the gazzillions of carcinogens with a non carcinogenic vapour then why condem it!

Just because it 'looks' like 'real' smoke people feel threatened . It's much easier to reduce nicotine dependancy when not inhaling these 'carriers' and thousands are finding it more helpful than anything else they have tried.. (and have cleaner teeth!)
#10
kippy
if anyone is serious enough about not smoking you won't need all these gadgets. shifting the blame is childish, take some responsibility for your (and those of people close to you) health and hygiene.


For someone with 17.000 posts, you sure have a naïve perspective on the horrors of giving up smoking. Obviously you do not have a 40 a day, 25 year habit otherwise you would not spout such misinformed bile.
#11
This report is from America, now where is McDonald's based?:roll:

The Americans need to look in a mirror before they spout at us.
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scribbles – what has number of posts have anything to do with anything? it's not an age indication!

i still stand by my statement. and i do have 1st hand experience, regardless of the number of my posts ;) when someone says they want to give up smoking, they have to be ready to want to give up and willing to want to stop the addiction. i am fed up of people who complain all the time about not being able to give up smoking for ages, and blaming everyone and everything else ... but themselves. there is no way you can tell me that cigarettes make the man/woman not the other way round. arguing about gadgets supposedly made in a dodgy country other than one they are familiar with, is another form of propoganda of shifting blame in the pursuit of a non-existent cure. the only cure for smoking is to stop smoking!
#13
well said kippy
#14
Inactive
This report is from America, now where is McDonald's based?:roll:

The Americans need to look in a mirror before they spout at us.


Pesky Americans :?
#15
kippy
scribbles – what has number of posts have anything to do with anything? it's not an age indication!

i still stand by my statement. and i do have 1st hand experience, regardless of the number of my posts ;) when someone says they want to give up smoking, they have to be ready to want to give up and willing to want to stop the addiction. i am fed up of people who complain all the time about not being able to give up smoking for ages, and blaming everyone and everything else ... but themselves. there is no way you can tell me that cigarettes make the man/woman not the other way round. arguing about gadgets supposedly made in a dodgy country other than one they are familiar with, is another form of propoganda of shifting blame in the pursuit of a non-existent cure. the only cure for smoking is to stop smoking!


I think you'll find most smokers DO blame themselves and not everybody else.
#16
I just get fed up with ex-smokers and non-smokers getting all judgemental on smokers. Where was this voice of reason 20 years ago when it was considered very cool to start smoking?
I do blame myself for starting smoking, but I also blame misinformation and bad advertising practices. FTR, I started when I was 18. I was responsible as a kid and would never think to start smoking, but when you are trying to look hard to shine on the babes, it's difficult to see the voice of reason :)
#17
huggychair;5858126
I use 'one' of these and top it up myself using a separatley bought liquid from a trusted UK supplier.. havn't felt healthier in years..

'What nobody seems interested in reporting about the study, however, is its conclusion—which hardly warrants the critical reception e-cigarettes have received thus far. According to the EPA’s own report, both brands of e-cigarettes they tested contained “tobacco specific nitrosamines and tobacco specific impurities […] at very low levels,” and of the 18 nicotine cartridges that were tested, only one contained diethylene glycol, and only at 1 percent.'
from: http://www.examiner.com/x-12638-El-Dorado-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m7d26-FDA-wrong-about-ecigarettes-says-FDA-study


Did they make you come out with this tripe though? If so, I don't want them thanks.
#18
Foxy102;5861608
Did they make you come out with this tripe though? If so, I don't want them thanks.


lol wtf?
#19
Foxy102
Did they make you come out with this tripe though? If so, I don't want them thanks.


NO just some script kiddy had hacked my account thanks! I still don't see what the problem is with electronic cigarettes! sure they need more regulation in terms of the manufacturing of the juice that they use, but at the same time they are saving thousands of lives.

It's long been trailed that the ex-smoker 'wears his medals upon his chest' and it's never been helpful to people who smoke.. 90% of whom 'want' and most of whom have tried to stop. The climate of 'fear' about them owes itself to mulitudes of people 'giving-up' because of the smaoking ban coming into play. They are a fundamentally good thing though,and make it easier to quit.
#20
huggychair;5863591
no just some script kiddy had hacked my account thanks!


lol I thought it was drugs! :w00t:
#21
never said i was an ex-smoker ...
#22
huggychair
NO just some script kiddy had hacked my account thanks! I still don't see what the problem is with electronic cigarettes! sure they need more regulation in terms of the manufacturing of the juice that they use, but at the same time they are saving thousands of lives.

It's long been trailed that the ex-smoker 'wears his medals upon his chest' and it's never been helpful to people who smoke.. 90% of whom 'want' and most of whom have tried to stop. The climate of 'fear' about them owes itself to mulitudes of people 'giving-up' because of the smaoking ban coming into play. They are a fundamentally good thing though,and make it easier to quit.


Well when I was a smoker I would have found it more helpful for people to tell me that they had had an easy experience of giving up than everyone going on about how impossible it is.
#23
StudentJo
Well when I was a smoker I would have found it more helpful for people to tell me that they had had an easy experience of giving up than everyone going on about how impossible it is.


Not an issue!... its just 'gleamed' an issue-attention-cycle becasuse this thread is about electronic cigarettes! It's MUCH easier to give up with 'fake' smoke than it is with NRT deamon nurse type items and people.

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