Posted 9 February 2010

Email SMTP fix.

Hello,

In progress of moving house, unfortunately I work from home at this point its a pain, as I need to use the internet but at this residence they are using AOL. AOL requires secure SMTP settings that I don't have and AOL arn't fourthcoming, is there anyway of getting around this.

It's just outgoing mail.
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  1. wolf359's avatar
    the smtp details you would need would be YOUR email ones, not the AOL ones for the house you're in atm
  2. deleted119527's avatar
    According to this site: - office.microsoft.com/en-…spx

    the AOL smtp settings for uk should be smtp.uk.aol.com
    You will also need to provide your AOL screen name and password for it to work tho.
  3. deleted119527's avatar
    wolf359;7795501

    the smtp details you would need would be YOUR email ones, not the AOL … the smtp details you would need would be YOUR email ones, not the AOL ones for the house you're in atm


    That's not true - smtp usually means setting up your mail client to use the outgoing server at the location you are in. For example, I have to set my smtp server at home to O2, but I can't send mail using my home account whilst I'm at work - not unless I change the outgoing mail server to that of our network. It's only different if you are using web based mail, or if the smtp server allows you to use it from outside the domain
  4. Adam2050's avatar
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    Both ideas above would send my emails from another account and forward them through the said accounts, this would cause them to be sent as whatever@aol.com when the account is whatever@input.com for example.
  5. SunTzu's avatar
    so you don't use AOL for your own mail? AOL are just the service provider at this house?
  6. Adam2050's avatar
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    SunTzu;7795589

    so you don't use AOL for your own mail? AOL are just the service provider … so you don't use AOL for your own mail? AOL are just the service provider at this house?



    Yes.:)

    Aol's always a cow.
  7. SunTzu's avatar
    ok. who do you use for email? and do you use an outlook type mail client?

    sorry for the questions but it helps provide a final answer :thumbsup:
  8. Adam2050's avatar
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    SunTzu;7795637

    ok. who do you use for email? and do you use an outlook type mail … ok. who do you use for email? and do you use an outlook type mail client?sorry for the questions but it helps provide a final answer :thumbsup:



    Company website won't post here for obvious reasons.

    Outlook express yes.

    Has been mentioned about SMTP Autentication settings, but AOL just ain't helping of yet.
  9. SunTzu's avatar
    ok. easiest thing to do would be to use a webmail client, can you do that?

    If not, set up an IMAP account in outlook , you will need to change your POP3 server to IMAP, server address imap.uk.aol.com

    Then change the SMTP server to be your company one e.g. mail.mycompany.com and the port to be 587 and that should work!
  10. SunTzu's avatar
    or....

    you could creat a gmail account which can be configured to check mail from another account and you can also send from this account too from within gmail?
  11. Adam2050's avatar
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    SunTzu;7795773

    or....you could creat a gmail account which can be configured to check … or....you could creat a gmail account which can be configured to check mail from another account and you can also send from this account too from within gmail?



    Do you mean use a gmail account as a mediator?
  12. SunTzu's avatar
    Adam2050;7795882

    Do you mean use a gmail account as a mediator?



    Yeh you can configure the gmail account to receive AND send from a different domain so you could use that via the web without having to worry about fiddling with outlook :thumbsup:
  13. wolf359's avatar
    thelioncub;7795552

    That's not true - smtp usually means setting up your mail client to use … That's not true - smtp usually means setting up your mail client to use the outgoing server at the location you are in. For example, I have to set my smtp server at home to O2, but I can't send mail using my home account whilst I'm at work - not unless I change the outgoing mail server to that of our network. It's only different if you are using web based mail, or if the smtp server allows you to use it from outside the domain


    i'm sorry but it IS true, normally.
    the only exceptions generally are where you're trying to use your ISP's mail server via another ISP. as you were when you tried from your work.

    so for example person a can't use their home account at work because their home account might be O2 and their works ISP might be AOL, so when they try to use O2's mailserver it detects them on an AOL ip address and rejects it, but if your work has their own mailserver (or an account with a hosting company to provide email accounts as most companies do) you can use their mailserver from any connection. i do this every single day. i have half a dozen email addresses from companies i provide support for and i can access everyone of them (incoming and outgoing) from my home account (via sky) using the various mailservers of the companies involved

    edit: some ISPs block port 25 to prevent you using an external SMTP server but most hosts will also allow you to change the port to get around this
  14. deleted119527's avatar
    wolf359;7796016

    i'm sorry but it IS true, normally.the only exceptions generally are … i'm sorry but it IS true, normally.the only exceptions generally are where you're trying to use your ISP's mail server via another ISP. as you were when you tried from your work.so for example person a can't use their home account at work because their home account might be O2 and their works ISP might be AOL, so when they try to use O2's mailserver it detects them on an AOL ip address and rejects it, but if your work has their own mailserver (or an account with a hosting company to provide email accounts as most companies do) you can use their mailserver from any connection. i do this every single day. i have half a dozen email addresses from companies i provide support for and i can access everyone of them (incoming and outgoing) from my home account (via sky) using the various mailservers of the companies involvededit: some ISPs block port 25 to prevent you using an external SMTP server but most hosts will also allow you to change the port to get around this



    Argh! I'm getting well confused now! lol. Surely what you've just explained there reinforces the idea that he needs the smtp server details of where he's sending the mail from (let's call that 'work'), else if he uses his 'home' account details the mailserver will detect a different IP and reject it? I think we are agreeing without even realising it, no?
  15. deleted119527's avatar
    Adam2050;7795560

    Both ideas above would send my emails from another account and forward … Both ideas above would send my emails from another account and forward them through the said accounts, this would cause them to be sent as whatever@aol.com when the account is whatever@input.com for example.



    But they wouldn't would they? Let's say you had a pop account set up with me@mydomain.com as the email address. If your ISP is now aol (right?), it doesn't mean your email would come from me@aol.com.. it would still be from the details as per your pop account, but using aol's smtp server?

    Tbh, I can't say i've ever used aol b/c i've only heard bad things about them, so perhaps they do block outgoing mail if you aren't using their email account to send from?
  16. wolf359's avatar
    thelioncub;7796741

    Argh! I'm getting well confused now! lol. Surely what you've just … Argh! I'm getting well confused now! lol. Surely what you've just explained there reinforces the idea that he needs the smtp server details of where he's sending the mail from (let's call that 'work'), else if he uses his 'home' account details the mailserver will detect a different IP and reject it? I think we are agreeing without even realising it, no?



    LOL no we're not agreeing. not fully at least.
    in your case you would need the SMTP of the location you're at, because you're trying to use an ISPs mailserver but at your work address, but in his case he wants to send mail from his work account but at a home address. providing his work mailserver doesn't check IP addresses (which most don't) he'll be able to send via his work mailserver and not AOLs
    the only thing to prevent this would be if AOL block port 25 but even then he could ask the IT dept at work to give him mailserver access on another port
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    SunTzu;7795899

    Yeh you can configure the gmail account to receive AND send from a … Yeh you can configure the gmail account to receive AND send from a different domain so you could use that via the web without having to worry about fiddling with outlook :thumbsup:



    Think everyone is missing the point.

    How do I do this?
  18. SunTzu's avatar
    Adam2050;7797248

    Think everyone is missing the point. How do I do this?



    just create a gmail account if you haven't got one, click on settings, click on 'accounts and import' then click 'add pop3 email account' and put in your other email address, then click 'send mail from another address' and put in your other email again and that should be it! simples :-D
  19. lanc_red's avatar
    have you tried ]http//ww…com

    enter your email addy & password. the one that you have setup on your pop3 account & hey presto.

    from my experience you can use other ISP's pop3 smtp setitngs via another ISP.
  20. deleted119527's avatar
    wolf359;7796937

    LOL no we're not agreeing. not fully at least.in your case you would need … LOL no we're not agreeing. not fully at least.in your case you would need the SMTP of the location you're at, because you're trying to use an ISPs mailserver but at your work address, but in his case he wants to send mail from his work account but at a home address. providing his work mailserver doesn't check IP addresses (which most don't) he'll be able to send via his work mailserver and not AOLsthe only thing to prevent this would be if AOL block port 25 but even then he could ask the IT dept at work to give him mailserver access on another port


    Ah.. I misunderstood - I read it that he works from home (as in freelance or whatever), and has moved house and needs to re-set up the mail servers with this change in ISP. Duh!
    You see I don't have this problem because a) my work doesn't allow outgoing mail from outside the domain - so I have to use another email account from home with Entourage and b) If I do need to send emails from my work account off site, we have Outlook webmail.
    I'll shut up now..
  21. SunTzu's avatar
    lanc_red;7797349

    have you tried ]http://www.mail2web.comenter your email addy & password. … have you tried ]http://www.mail2web.comenter your email addy & password. the one that you have setup on your pop3 account & hey presto.from my experience you can use other ISP's pop3 smtp setitngs via another ISP.



    eeeek, you willingly give your email address AND password to someone else???????? :?
  22. SunTzu's avatar
    That's ok, no need to thank me! ffs
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