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7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months ago
Having worked for the same company since 2001 im now being asked to take my national insurance card to work tomro to prove im eligable to work in the uk or i could face disaplinary action & having searched my house high and low i cant find it any where do i realy need to prove this to them now ?

I was born in this country i have a passport and birth certificate to prove this
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7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months ago
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banned#1
you can't find your NI?


things like this is why Britain is in this mess!
#2
Payslip will be fine. Take a passport too.
#3
Surely the number will do and they would already have that for your pay? I lost mine years ago (card that is) Seems a bit daft to me.
banned#4
you could request a new one? not sure who supplys them though, strange an employer to request such a thing though
#5
Ring your local government and they will reissue you with it.
banned#6
when my daughters card came through it said you could only apply for a replacement card once, so if you havent already replaced it you can do it once
#7
I know this isn't what you were asking, but just in case you need to get a replacement card in the future:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nic/ynino.htm

What do I do if I have lost my National Insurance number card?

Report it to your nearest DWP office (Opens new window), Social Security office in Northern Ireland (Opens new window) or HM Revenue & Customs office. If you want a replacement card you will need to complete an application form. Remember that you are only allowed one replacement.
#8
you can ring the Revenue and Customs people to order a new one or go to your local job centre and fill in a form. Just tell the people at work you have lost it and are awaiting a replacement.
#9
It is not unusual for a company to ask you to prove you are eligable, anyone going for a job will be asked this, but you only need your passport to prove this, NI cards and driving licenses are only asked for if you do not have a passport, tell them Rufus Rabbit says so, it will be ok
#10
I worked within a nuclear establishment and we only needed to provide our passport to prove we were eligible to work within the UK. I don't have my National Insurance Card i think I binned it after I memorised the number. Do you have any communication with DWP or HM Revenue and Customs as backup evidence?
#11
I also got told a pay slip isnt good enuff as it had to be form a differnt employer and like i said ive been in this job for 8 years as for applying for a new card that isnt really a option as i need it by tomro
#12
your employers take n.i contributions directly from your pay,so why the hell do they want your card????????????
#13
Are you hiding something???! :whistling:
#14
transit
your employers take n.i contributions directly from your pay,so why the hell do they want your card????????????


I no apparently they need to check i no right!
banned#15
seems a very odd request, have they given you a reason to be doing this 8 yrs later
#16
Banana79
Are you hiding something???! :whistling:


Wish i was at least their whould be a reason for me to get in trouble my record isnt perfect as it is could really do without getting in any more trouble
#17
(((ROBBO)));5913726
I no apparently they need to check i no right!


well tell them you cant find it! they cant discipline you for not having it!:thumbsup:
#18
sassie
seems a very odd request, have they given you a reason to be doing this 8 yrs later


apprantly they need to check
#19
they cant discipline you just because you cant produce an NI card TOMORROW-thats utterly ridiculous!
#20
Try ringing HR and asking them why your boss wants it. Very odd request. If they are deducting Ni from your pay then they know what it is and that it is legit.
#21
Banana79
Try ringing HR and asking them why your boss wants it. Very odd request. If they are deducting Ni from your pay then they know what it is and that it is legit.


nice editing:thumbsup:
#22
Have you been paying NI contributions if they don't have your NI number?
#23
boothy
Have you been paying NI contributions if they don't have your NI number?


Yeah i have been they need to see the card though

I wouldnt mind but the company i work for arnt exactly the local corner shop its one of best none names on the highstreet
#24
Looks like the company you work for have been caught employing people they shouldnt and have had their wrists slapped .And now they are having to provide proof of who does work for them,
#25
Jumpingphil
What, you mean Woolworths.


no the poundshop:thumbsup:
#26
lets just say they have just turned 125 could i really get in trouble over this?
#27
tonyg1962
Looks like the company you work for have been caught employing people they shouldnt and have had their wrists slapped .And now they are having to provide proof of who does work for them,


None of my freinds from work have been asked about this
#28
(((ROBBO)));5913883
lets just say they have just turned 125 could i really get in trouble over this?


not in a million years
#29
Dont worry about it ,The wife works in personnel there and says they should have evrything on record from when you were first employed,If they have lost these records then they will have to give you plenty of time provide a replacement,
#30
Even the HMRC website says it's not a form of ID! "It is meant to be a reminder of your number and nothing else. It does not provide proof of your identity and should not be used as such."
It all sounds a bit odd to me after such a long time. I would question why you are being asked to provide a card but no-one else is. They have to at least allow you time to apply for a replacement card.
banned#31
Never been given a card in my life....................... number or any document with it on is good enough:thumbsup::santa:
#32
The passport and birth certificate piece is for right to work legislation and this proofs you are legal to work in the UK.

The reason they are asking for proof of your NI is to ensure the company and yourself are paying the correct NI Contributions - this can't be from a P60 or Payslip by your current employer as that number would reflect whatever you told them when you were hired.

I would explain tomorrow that you have never had cause to produce your NI Number and you are willing to apply for a new card. The link from We_Are_138 will help you get a new card.
Once you have applied you will get a official letter which will document your NI Number until the card is sent through, this should help meet the company policy and procedure.

If the above does not work you should speak to your HR function as producing your Passport & Birth Certificate will prove you are a legal UK worker and it would be reasonable for the company to ask and wait for you to produce your NI Number - any immediate action would be unreasonable (in my opinon) and the risk to the business is reduced as they have been using the current number for eight years.

Good Luck!
#33
tonyg1962
Looks like the company you work for have been caught employing people they shouldnt and have had their wrists slapped .And now they are having to provide proof of who does work for them,



^^This^^


barky
they cant discipline you just because you cant produce an NI card TOMORROW-thats utterly ridiculous!


Correct:thumbsup:
#34
there are legislations where we all have to prove we are eligible to work in the UK now,its so as not to discriminate against immigrants..although your national insurance card is one item they need to see two other being drivers licence/passport or FULL birth certificate...even if you have been there for years they can still ask...because its a legal requirment for anyone applying for a job to prove it,to have people working in a company who havent proved it,even if they have been there for years,would be discimination....why should a newbie have to prove it when mr smith who has been there for 40 years has never had to ....world gone mad i think and we wouldnt want to upset immigrants

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