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The end of YouTube as we know it? Content creators not being paid for videos due to policy change.

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If like me, you use YouTube for more than just hilarious cat videos, You'll know there's some interesting and well-made content on the site. It's pretty much the defacto choice when looking for free (…
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[mod] 5m, 2w agoPosted 5 months, 2 weeks ago
If like me, you use YouTube for more than just hilarious cat videos, You'll know there's some interesting and well-made content on the site. It's pretty much the defacto choice when looking for free (but sometimes sponsored), content. There's a variety of 'content creators' on the site, some more popular than others, and the more followers you have as a YouTuber, the greater the potential to earn money through ad revenue. For YouTuber's with large followings, the weekly revenue can amount to substantial figures, some are so popular that YouTube is their career; their "9 to 5" and rely on the money they make from the platform, to continue making content.

But YouTube creators have discovered some of their videos have started to be unmonetized in the past 48 hours, meaning that no ad revenue would be made by the content creator on that particular video. On further inspection, it was found that a recent change in policy was the reason for these videos being unmonetized and YouTube and it's community; aren't happy about the changes.
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http://img.youtube.com/vi/Gbph5or0NuM/0.jpg

One particular YouTube creator, Philip DeFranco, had at least 12 videos flagged as not 'advertiser friendly'. He went as far as to make a protest video announcing his channel being 'shut down'.

In the video, DeFranco criticizes YouTube on the lack of communication between them and creators with changes to the platform, and “By taking away the ability to monetize a video where you’re saying things that they don’t deem ‘okay,’ that’s been described as censorship with a different name,”

http://i.imgur.com/SCBPGFc.png
[ Creators are most concerned with the bottom section, concerning controversial or sensitive subjects ]

A spokesperson for YouTube has now stated;

While our policy of demonetizing videos due to advertiser-friendly concerns hasn’t changed, we’ve recently improved the notification and appeal process to ensure better communication.

A big misunderstanding then? Nothing to worry about? Unlikely. The community has seen this as YouTube taking a step towards advertisers, and a step away from the creators, leaving confusion with a policy that is considered open-ended, and vague.

#YouTubeIsOverParty



Edited By: msmyth on Sep 01, 2016 18:19: .
#2
Out of interest how much to they pay you tubers?
1 Like #3
the content on youtube has been allowed to degrade way too long. I dont know where this guy falls in to it, and how the policy is applied, but you can see a lot of crappy clickbait on his uploads. the degradation of content mixed with ad blocks is probably causing a bit of a worry for youtube revenues.
http://www.pcinvasion.com/youtube-statement-no-policy-change-advertiser-friendly-flags seems to claim policy hasnt really changed, just clearer

Edited By: Jeffers727 on Sep 01, 2016 18:24
5 Likes #4
Have to go get a proper job now lads.
2 Likes #5
You mean theres more than hiliarious cat videos
#6
Good.. they get paid way to much anyway.
1 Like #7
msmyth
...On further inspection, it was found that a recent change in policy was the reason for these videos being unmonetized and YouTube and it's community; aren't happy about the changes.

Read the terms & conditions rather than just clicking [OK].

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/c/ca/Simples.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150220233403

If you don't agree with the changes applied, don't click the button.
#8
davohotuk
I think this is the start of something even more worrying. We recently saw news of some YouTube creators getting sued for opinion based videos, by the people they were talking about.
It worries me that videos like this (that I created) will also be de-monetised and possibly even removed; ]

Sorry why do you feel you should be paid for that video? it clearly was a bad experience you documented, but I am not sure why you should be entitled to payment for that?


Edited By: haritori on Sep 02, 2016 12:17: Removed Link
#9
krisward7955
Good.. they get paid way to much anyway.

The average youtuber earns nothing. It's fair like that.
2 Likes #10
thewongwing101
moneysavingkitten
[quote=davohotuk] I think this is the start of something even more worrying. We recently saw news of some YouTube creators getting sued for opinion based videos, by the people they were talking about.
It worries me that videos like this (that I created) will also be de-monetised and possibly even removed; /quote]Self promotion?
Don't think deeky gets anything any more for drawing that hand :|
or does he ?(maybe that explains it)

But if one can outlive the length of the copyright term, then one should consider oneself very fortunate anyway :)

Edited By: moneysavingkitten on Sep 02, 2016 10:57: Removal of link
1 Like #11
richje100
Out of interest how much to they pay you tubers?

Around $1 per 1,000 views, sometimes more if it's sponsored content. Hence a view video with 10,000,000 views overnight is worth celebrating if you're a content creator.

As an advertiser, say you were Vaxhall, you'd pay £3 per 1.000 views of your ad to an agency. Say the agency took £1 per 1.000 views, that means paying he publisher (YouTube) £2 per thousand. A 50% revenue share on that drom Youtube (if it's your video) leaves you with £1 per 1,000 views. Very lucrative for all parties.

Zoella. Who is a big content creator on YouTube, earns around £25k per video release, and that's not just from video views but from paid placements.
1 Like #12
So only people who post crap content are effected by this? Good, means higher quality videos and not people posting stupid crap whilst making money off it.
#13
davohotuk
I think this is the start of something even more worrying. We recently saw news of some YouTube creators getting sued for opinion based videos, by the people they were talking about.
It worries me that videos like this (that I created) will also be de-monetised and possibly even removed; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yzthtQDPc0

Curious question, is there any reason you didn't use a credit card chargeback to force the refund? They had your phone back, they agreed to refund you, but they then changed their minds and they stopped communicating with you. If they're not prepared to live up to their legal obligations, it's time to use your other legal options.
#14
mantisinc
richje100
Out of interest how much to they pay you tubers?
Around $1 per 1,000 views, sometimes more if it's sponsored content. Hence a view video with 10,000,000 views overnight is worth celebrating if you're a content creator.
As an advertiser, say you were Vaxhall, you'd pay £3 per 1.000 views of your ad to an agency. Say the agency took £1 per 1.000 views, that means paying he publisher (YouTube) £2 per thousand. A 50% revenue share on that drom Youtube (if it's your video) leaves you with £1 per 1,000 views. Very lucrative for all parties.
Zoella. Who is a big content creator on YouTube, earns around £25k per video release, and that's not just from video views but from paid placements.
It used to be $5 per thousand views but I thought they changed it to pay based on viewing length instead a while back? Hence why a 1 minute tutorial has a boring American kid droning on for 5 minutes before the actual content.

Edited By: dcx_badass on Sep 02, 2016 08:04
#15
I don't really see an issue with advertisers not wanting their brand(s) associated with controversy (Advertisers Pullout Ads After TLC Airs During 'Jill And Jessa: Counting On' Amidst Josh Duggar Child Molestation Scandal). How the terms are applied will be interesting, as they are quite vague and open to interpretation as they stand (unless a more in-depth version exists).
4 Likes #16
Those quoting davohotuk's post may wish to remove his link...
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miikeyblue
Those quoting davohotuk's post may wish to remove his link...

Have just done so :)
2 Likes #18
thewongwing101
moneysavingkitten
davohotuk
I think this is the start of something even more worrying. We recently saw news of some YouTube creators getting sued for opinion based videos, by the people they were talking about.
It worries me that videos like this (that I created) will also be de-monetised and possibly even removed; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yzthtQDPc0
Self promotion?
Don't think deeky gets anything any more for drawing that hand :|
or does he ?(maybe that explains it)

Why have harmless comments been removed from this thread? I replied to this last night with a perfectly clean 'missed the point' gif. Where is it? *insert angry smiley here
1 Like #19
miikeyblue
Those quoting davohotuk's post may wish to remove his link...
Done mine but now deeky has replied to me now X)
he does make a very good point mind
Why have harmless comments been removed from this thread? I replied to this last night with a perfectly clean 'missed the point' gif. Where is it? *insert angry smiley here
maybe a bit off topic
but the whole thing makes no sense now X)
3 Likes #20
thewongwing101
miikeyblue
Those quoting davohotuk's post may wish to remove his link...
Done mine but now deeky has replied to me now X)
he does make a very good point mind
Why have harmless comments been removed from this thread? I replied to this last night with a perfectly clean 'missed the point' gif. Where is it? *insert angry smiley here
maybe a bit off topic
but the whole thing makes no sense now X)

Off topic in misc is just a joke. I tend to think it's more of a power trip thing.
#21
dcx_badass
mantisinc
richje100
Out of interest how much to they pay you tubers?
Around $1 per 1,000 views, sometimes more if it's sponsored content. Hence a view video with 10,000,000 views overnight is worth celebrating if you're a content creator.
As an advertiser, say you were Vaxhall, you'd pay £3 per 1.000 views of your ad to an agency. Say the agency took £1 per 1.000 views, that means paying he publisher (YouTube) £2 per thousand. A 50% revenue share on that drom Youtube (if it's your video) leaves you with £1 per 1,000 views. Very lucrative for all parties.
Zoella. Who is a big content creator on YouTube, earns around £25k per video release, and that's not just from video views but from paid placements.
It used to be $5 per thousand views but I thought they changed it to pay based on viewing length instead a while back? Hence why a 1 minute tutorial has a boring American kid droning on for 5 minutes before the actual content.
There is no set figure. On length, I would suspect that for user experience, though don't know, that if you have a short video YouTube will try to avoid lengthy adverts which are likely higher paying.
1 Like #22
Any video which starts "whats up youtubers" should get nothing.
2 Likes #23
lumsdot
Any video which starts "whats up youtubers" should get nothing.

And videos where the thumbnail picture does not actually appear in the video at all. ;)
#24
richje100
Out of interest how much to they pay you tubers?


​you only get paid after so many 100,000 of views
#25
Sorry, that's not correct. You set a threshold for when you get paid, usually based on when you have earned a certain figure. Say, £50. Each time you reach £50 you get paid.
1 Like #26
About time too.

Way too many videos that are fancy in design but say nothing useful in the content.

Spent 5 minutes the other day watching a kid spending a third of a review waxing lyrical about the quality of the box that a USB card reader came i.

I would suggest that Youtube have a paid subscription style system for people that wish to make money from the site, charging them a fee per video and ban those that attempt to transgress it.
#27
reddit
About time too.
Way too many videos that are fancy in design but say nothing useful in the content.
Spent 5 minutes the other day watching a kid spending a third of a review waxing lyrical about the quality of the box that a USB card reader came i.
I would suggest that Youtube have a paid subscription style system for people that wish to make money from the site, charging them a fee per video and ban those that attempt to transgress it.


Agree, Me and boys have just finished watching robot wars. and the kids loved it, so i told them about HypnoDisc from the old series, and did a search on youtube.

someone had made a top 5 HypnoDisc battles, its was 15 minutes long, 4 minutes of which were the battles, and 11 minutes of some guy gogin on about how it was his opinion and others might not agree for 11!! Minutes! at least it made us all laugh as he repeated the same thing in a different way for the 4th time.

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