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Ending Job seekers allowance

brettytopbanana Avatar
7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
As i have just got a job i now need to end my job seekers but i wont get paid till the 23rd of august so would i still be able to claim up until I get paid.
the other thing is I am going on holidays on the 7th of august for 2 weeks to portugal.

It all sounds a little messy and confusing to me!
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7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
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#1
You stop claiming from the day you start work, contact them immediately.
#2
Yeah you cant claim and work you'll get done for fraud lol.
#3
i gathered that but im sure i heard that if you do not get paid until the end of the month then they will still pay you to make sure that you are covered for the month.

obviously i am going to have to contact them though.
#4
And confused why you aren't getting paid til August,

aren't you paid monthly ?
#5
i wasnt going to carry on claiming without saying anything!lol

I was going to mention it to them as i wont get paid until the 23rd of march which is 6 weeks away. 6 weeks with no income is a long time!
#6
yes but i start work on the 16th of this month and I will get paid on the 23rd of every month but this month I wont get paid till august if that makes sense?!
#7
brettytopbanana;5696444
i wasnt going to carry on claiming without saying anything!lol

I was going to mention it to them as i wont get paid until the 23rd of march which is 6 weeks away. 6 weeks with no income is a long time!


even more confused now lol

if you are paid monthly you should recieve something the end of July :thumbsup:
#8
brettytopbanana;5696452
yes but i start work on the 16th of this month and I will get paid on the 23rd of every month but this month I wont get paid till august if that makes sense?!


your employer can pay you for that week by cheque :thumbsup:
#9
ive spoken to them and they said i will not get paid till the end of august as i would only have worked a week in july.
#10
Yeah but if hes on a monthly wage then he will have to work a month without wages will he not?

I thought everywhere did that.
#11
even if it is a government organisation?
#12
AshleyRFC
Yeah but if hes on a monthly wage then he will have to work a month without wages will he not?

I thought everywhere did that.


exactly my point!

im not looking to screw the system i just need to have money for the month that I am working but not getting paid if that makes sense!
#13
I highly doubt you'll get anything from Jobseekers, once you are employed you no longer have a claim.
#14
You can also claim for Council Tax Run On under certain circumstances :)
#15
AshleyRFC;5696485
Yeah but if hes on a monthly wage then he will have to work a month without wages will he not?

I thought everywhere did that.


brettytopbanana;5696488
even if it is a government organisation?


no, I use to work in payroll (for the NHS and a govt body) and we processed everyone monthly whether a week or a day

if they miss the payroll run they were legally able to request the pay for the period upto the payroll pay date
#16
brettytopbanana
exactly my point!

im not looking to screw the system i just need to have money for the month that I am working but not getting paid if that makes sense!


Yeah but still doesnt mean you'll get anything from jobseekers, this happens to a lot of people when they start working.
#17
thats what i expect afterall they dont really like to make things easy for you, so its highly likely il have to manage for 6 weeks with no money coming in!
#18
brettytopbanana
i gathered that but im sure i heard that if you do not get paid until the end of the month then they will still pay you to make sure that you are covered for the month.

obviously i am going to have to contact them though.


That used to be the system some years ago, you could claim til you got paid. Mr Brown stopped that a while back.

If you ask them how you're supposed to cope they'll tell you to try to get an advance from your employer or borrow from friends (that what they told me !!!!) Nice to know we live in such a caring society isn't it ?
#19
sod that, i will not be asking my new employer for an advance i will not be borrowing money!!!
#20
I work for the DWP, you do need to notify them immediately about your change in circumstances. As already mentioned you will cease to be entitled to it from the day you start working. If for some reason you get more payments while you are working it would become an overpayment and you would owe the excess money paid to you. Although it would be fraud if you didn't tell them I would find it hard to believe that you would be prosecuted. Most of the cases which are prosecuted are large scale or long term willful fraud. However I would still advise you to tell them straight away, and I would in no way advocate you continuing t receive payments ( disclaimer lol!!)
#21
you need to inform them straight away.

If you've been out of work for longer than 6 months I think you can claim a back to work allowance. Inform them you have work, tell them when you'll be paid and ask what you can claim in the meantime if anything :)

And congrats for the job !!
#22
I have been on it for 6 months. I think il take a trip down there tomorrow to find out but im not holding out much hope!
Im not a scrounger, far from it but i dont see why i should go without money for 6 weeks.
#23
brettytopbanana
sod that, i will not be asking my new employer for an advance i will not be borrowing money!!!


You could always ask about a crisis or budgeting loan, I know you say you don't want to borrow but they are interest free and you can pay back very small amounts if you can get one!
#24
thanks silky but i do not really want to owe the job centre anything.
#25
Just asked the OH, he said that usually the employer will sort something out for you.

He said that he thought the employer gradually took it back off your wages rather than in a lump sum.
#26
silkymolo
You could always ask about a crisis or budgeting loan, I know you say you don't want to borrow but they are interest free and you can pay back very small amounts if you can get one!


He wont be entitled to one of those, altho he might be entitled to a back to work grant thing where he can get some clothing.
#27
brettytopbanana
I have been on it for 6 months. I think il take a trip down there tomorrow to find out but im not holding out much hope!
Im not a scrounger, far from it but i dont see why i should go without money for 6 weeks.


good luck with it...

six weeks isnt that long in the grand scheme of things. dont let it put you off the job.

I hope you get enough money to tide you over till you get that tidy paycheck :)
#28
[QUOTE=brettytopbanana]thanks silky but i do not really want to owe the job centre anything.[/QUOT

Just thought it was worth a mention, I know you said you didn't want to owe anything. There are other things available though like help towards work clothing costs, and depending on how long you been receiving them some benefits pay out a bonus for re-entering the workforce, I know you used to get £250 when leaving Income support!!

Best of luck anyways!!
#29
Soon as work starts no claim valid. It's hard sometimes,I remember when my partner started the job he was in,it was some way into the mth and he did not get paid until the end of the next mth so it was about 5 weeks without money.
Don't know how long you been signing on for etc but I'm sure he got grant when he found work for signing off,might need enquire if anything now,I'm going back ages ago now,not far off a decade.
#30
silkymolo;5696604
[QUOTE=brettytopbanana]thanks silky but i do not really want to owe the job centre anything.[/QUOT

Just thought it was worth a mention, I know you said you didn't want to owe anything. There are other things available though like help towards work clothing costs, and depending on how long you been receiving them some benefits pay out a bonus for re-entering the workforce, I know you used to get £250 when leaving Income support!!

Best of luck anyways!!


Yep I was thinking of some kind of bonus if it still exists.
#31
I did post at least some help bottom of page 1 lol but i think it has gotten lost :)
#32
Ask your employers to make you an interim payment to cover the bit when your too late to go onto the payroll for that month. They can not leave you with nothing and should be able to do this no problem.
#33
You have to sign off anyway if your leaving the country. (Not sure if anyone has mentioned that. I just skimmed through all the page's!)
#34
jaybizzle
You have to sign off anyway if your leaving the country. (Not sure if anyone has mentioned that. I just skimmed through all the page's!)


Nope but you have a point!
#35
Btw what does your new employer think of your holiday? lol
#36
well the whole scenario was unavoidable really, the job i have taken i was interviewed for in april but i did not get it originally. I got a call yesterday from then stating that the person they gave the job to back in april had left and seeing as i was their original second choice they thought they would offer it to me. i was not going to turn it down but i did lay my cards on the table and explain that since the interview with them I had booked a holiday, i said i hoped it didnt jeopardise my chance of keeping the job and she said they were very flexible and afterall it was summer which is when most people take their holidays!!
#37
AshleyRFC
Btw what does your new employer think of your holiday? lol


Company's tend to take holiday's already booked into consideration. IF they want you that bad, it won't matter.
#38
Becksdawe
Company's tend to take holiday's already booked into consideration. IF they want you that bad, it won't matter.


exactly thats why i laid my cards on the table, they were wither willing to put up with it or they had the option of advertising the job again and going through more interviews etc etc!
#39
wouldn't bother telling the Job Centre until a month has gone,although most people will tell you otherwise,they will never prosecute you for a months JSA and the worst that would happen is they would make you pay it back,your call but don;t worry too much about it,imo

last thing you want to do is start hassling your new employer as soon as you start
#40
boothy im not that type of person to not tell the job centre. you are right though when you say i dont want to start my new job by hassling my employer!

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