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'English Defence League' Protest outside Mosque

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Ten people were arrested after scuffles broke out as police attempted to separate protesters from a large number of people who opposed the group. The EDL has recently been involved in a number of con…
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banned7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
Ten people were arrested after scuffles broke out as police attempted to separate protesters from a large number of people who opposed the group.
The EDL has recently been involved in a number of confrontations in Birmingham.
In a statement to the BBC, Mr Denham said: "I believe the English Defence League is not a large group, but they clearly have amongst them people who know exactly what they are doing.
"If you look at the types of demonstrations they have organised, the language used and the targets chosen, it looks pretty clear that it's a tactic designed to provoke, to get a response and create violence.
"It's important that we, right across government, make sure this does not happen.
"We need to make sure people realise we are going to deal with this and that people recognise there is not a need to tackle this through counter confrontation."
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banned7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
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banned#2
the defence league are they doing a 4-4-2 formation or a Diamond ?
#3
Zonal Marking?
banned#4
kiddakidda;6271929
Zonal Marking?

thought so :thumbsup:
#5
I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the near future (unfortunately). It may only be a copycat organisation, per violence as seen in other countries, but it has the habit of catching the radicals attention. The Nazis are on the way back sad to say.
#6
People feeling defensive, fearful, confrontational, and righteous on both sides.

Avoid Trafalgar Square Sunday!

This bit gets me.......

"Denham said there was a clear link between increasing support for the far-right and discontent in predominantly white working class communities.

He said this is due to fears that they are not being listened to."

So, invite them to the table, let them talk politics instead of allowing it to degenerate into violence and to be used by others with ulterior motives to continue the violence.
[mod]#7
Predikuesi;6271944
I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the near future (unfortunately). It may only be a copycat organisation, per violence as seen in other countries, but it has the habit of catching the radicals attention. The Nazis are on the way back sad to say.


I agree..........the right wing extremist movements are making a return :-(
banned#8
ClarityofMind
People feeling defensive, fearful, confrontational, and righteous on both sides.

Avoid Trafalgar Square Sunday!

This bit gets me.......

"Denham said there was a clear link between increasing support for the far-right and discontent in predominantly white working class communities.

He said this is due to fears that they are not being listened to."

So, invite them to the table, let them talk politics instead of allowing it to degenerate into violence and to be used by others with ulterior motives to continue the violence.


The problem is, they're a problem successive governments have helped create. Underfunding in education means you have some really unintelligent people who, in the current climate, are now fearful as well.

So the lash out and are easily manipulated.
[mod]#9
strike;6271974
The protestors should be killed


They'd love that though........that's what they want, an end to democratic society and freedom.
#10
strike
The protestors should be killed


Reminds me of

The peasants are revolting!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYpYs9GBXwY
banned#11
Syzable;6271983
They'd love that though........that's what they want, an end to democratic society and freedom.

ooh more overtime :thumbsup:
#12
FilthAndFurry
The problem is, they're a problem successive governments have helped create. Underfunding in education means you have some really unintelligent people who, in the current climate, are now fearful as well.

So the lash out and are easily manipulated.


Its the whole scapegoating issue that is actively encouraged by governments.

I know I'm gonna get slated for being a behaviourist again but aggressive personality traits in dealing with this kinda social situation really dont help.

Besides, I don't think bigotry is actually caused by a lack of knowledge or education, but most certainly flourishes where there is a lack of intelligence and where people are desperate enough to act against what they perceive the enemy to be...

It's a lack of insight rather than education, directly.
#13
dog_cop
ooh more overtime :thumbsup:


:thumbsup: i feel a new kitchen coming on :thumbsup:
#15


wow, thats some serious propaganda.

even uniforms lol

You think they make pointy white hoods too?
banned#16
ClarityofMind
wow, thats some serious propaganda.

even uniforms lol

You think they make pointy white hoods too?


Apparently they're another group trying to use St George's Cross purely to breed hatred. It's a shame that our national flag is used in such a way.
#17
I will say this for them ,they have some guts,There were only aound 20 of them with around a thousand people wanting to tear them limb from limb,
#18
This Sunday, Trafalgour Sqaure
#19
FilthAndFurry
Apparently they're another group trying to use St George's Cross purely to breed hatred. It's a shame that our national flag is used in such a way.


In any video from the protests do you see any EDL members attacking anyone, if you look at the videos it is muslim youths that are attacking people throwing stones etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07iKI8ZNGU
#20
esq3585
In any video from the protests do you see any EDL members attacking anyone, if you look at the videos it is muslim youths that are attacking people throwing stones etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07iKI8ZNGU


And its a video by the members of EDl. Have you heard of muslims who have been attacked at night coming back from Mosque and one has now died. I doubt it.

An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth
1 Like #21
not more racial hatred f&f

seems to be your specialist subject
#22
strike
And its a video by the members of EDl. Have you heard of muslims who have been attacked at night coming back from Mosque and one has now died. I doubt it.

An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth


That video you quoted from me was a bbc news video , not one from the edl.

Here it is again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07iKI8ZNGU
banned#23
esq3585
In any video from the protests do you see any EDL members attacking anyone, if you look at the videos it is muslim youths that are attacking people throwing stones etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07iKI8ZNGU


You ever seen that scene in Fight Club where the guy with the hose is trying to start a fight with the passing priest?

I can't believe that priest hit him.
banned#24
casparwhite
not more racial hatred f&f

seems to be your specialist subject


Do you mean posts about racial hatred, or me actually racially hating?
[mod]#25
strike;6272155


An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth


Wrong attitude..........racial attacks work both ways. What we need is a end to it not constant revenge attacks.
#26
Syzable
Wrong attitude..........racial attacks work both ways. What we need is a end to it not constant revenge attacks.


+1

30yrs of Northern Ireland says the only way to assert peace is to lay down weapons and talk.

( unless you're married of course :w00t: )
1 Like #27
FilthAndFurry
Do you mean posts about racial hatred, or me actually racially hating?


whatever you want but i can just see you on mastermind now

chosen specialist subject - racial hatred and stiring up trouble on internet forums with a splash of bnp and excerpts from the daily mail
#28
Its the football terraces for the noughties.
#29
strike

An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth


oh that old classic counter argument! It all fails when you consider other crimes.
#30
casparwhite
whatever you want but i can just see you on mastermind now

chosen specialist subject - racial hatred and stiring up trouble on internet forums with a splash of bnp and excerpts from the daily mail


Lol, this is a very accurate observation.
Most of his quotes and thread starters come from DailyMail.co.uk

I have seen 1 or 2 threads about football from him, but its mostly, as you say, him trying to get everyone arguing about race.

Repped.
#31
Believe it or not I live in this area. And yestarday the town city was so dead.

My School / Sixth Form had ended early because of this. Because there was fear they may come here.

And the park on my road has police all over at night becaue alot of these people were coming through the park.

Helicopter were everywhere. Police was everywhere.
1 Like #32
without wanting to give the attention starved child op some satisfaction,my opinion:

its exactly the same scenario as the anti facist protesters who stand outside the bnp meetings

everyone has the right to protest,wether the majority believe in it or not

the muslim thugs we wrong on this particular occasion as they resorted to violence and attacked the police

in b4 the thread is pulled because the OP achieved their aim of racial arguements
banned#33
boothy;6272346
without wanting to give the attention starved child op some satisfaction,my opinion:

its exactly the same scenario as the anti facist protesters who stand outside the bnp meetings

everyone has the right to protest,wether the majority believe in it or not

the muslim thugs we wrong on this particular occasion as they resorted to violence and attacked the police

excellent post as per :thumbsup:
banned#34
££ JASE ££;6272324
Lol, this is a very accurate observation.
Most of his quotes and thread starters come from DailyMail.co.uk

I have seen 1 or 2 threads about football from him, but its mostly, as you say, him trying to get everyone arguing about race.

Repped.


Not true, although I don't deny I read a wide variety of news sources.

I also don't want 'arguments about race'. I just find discussions on one of the most important issues facing this country interesting and for that I can only blame my upbringing and education:?
#35
casparwhite
whatever you want but i can just see you on mastermind now

chosen specialist subject - racial hatred and stiring up trouble on internet forums with a splash of bnp and excerpts from the daily mail


for once I agree on that one

rep given
#36
dog_cop
excellent post as per :thumbsup:


good morning sir:)
banned#37
My main interest in this is that I myself am English, but I'm not entirely sure who the EDL are 'protecting' me from.
banned#38
boothy;6272364
good morning sir:)

morning squire.:). see the misk is sinking to the depths already :roll:
#39
dog_cop
morning squire.:). see the misk is sinking to the depths already :roll:


same old same old,just quickly popping in before a day in the peak district,pretty sure some people will be still on doing the same thing when I get back tonight:thumbsup:


It used to be so good in here as well....
#40
dog_cop
morning squire.:). see the misk is sinking to the depths already :roll:


It sunk a long time ago .........;-)

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