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Excessive condensation inside windows - are they faulty or is she playing me?

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6y, 3m agoPosted 6 years, 3 months ago
My gran (who I look after, but do not live with - she lives alone) is having an excessive build up of condensation inside her windows. I think it's because she is not putting her heating on, but the house is always warm when I get there in the evenings. I think she is only putting it on for half an hour before I get there so I don't go on about how cold it is. I've tried catching her unawares and the house was FREEZING. She gave me some excuse about how she'd been out all morning... (she can barely walk!) Now she's saying the windows must be faulty and she wants new ones installing. I think she's made an appointment with someone from the market, and I'm trying to persuade her to cancel as she will be sucked into a hard sell. The windows are old (about 20 years) but they are upvc double glazed and there is no fogging between the panes, just on the inside of the glass, which when I've been round with a drawer full of tea towels, is fine until the next day. Is this a under-heating issue, or knackered windows. I know a bit of condensation is to be expected, but this is pouring off the glass and pooling on the sill, and dripping down to the floor. It's not good.
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#1
u win! first post about condensation i have seen on here since it started getting cold.

increase the ventilation - turn the heating up more etc.
most homes get condensation its a curse of living in a modern(ish) house u cant do much about it apart from leave a window or 2 open but then you get cold :)
[mod]#2
Even if she never put the heating on the condensation wouldn't be that bad. If you are concerned about the hard sell then be there when the rep calls round.
suspended#3
Its probably down to the inside of the house being cold I think. Mine has started doing this but I have not put the heating on. I know that when I start to put the heating on this problem will dissappear. Can you be there when and if someone tries to sell her new windows. If they are faulty if she is on a low income she can maybe get a grant towards repairs or new ones.
#4
Syzable
Even if she never put the heating on the condensation wouldn't be that bad. If you are concerned about the hard sell then be there when the rep calls round.


She won't tell me who or when. She's a pain in the backside. I can't just sit round there and wait indefinitely.
banned#5
It is difficult with the elderly my gran is just the same.

Have you spoke to social services about some care for her because of her difficulty in walking.
#6
I would say a damp issue is also possible, there can be no amount of condensation to the extent you describe without a serious amount of moisture in the air, this is usually a result of a damp room being heated, the water becomes warm and airborne and then meets a cold surface (ie the glass).

If this is on the room side of the glass then its quite a serious problem even with damp clothes constantly being dried on our radiators we get no condensation as this is one of the benefits of double glazing.

I wouldn't rule out the double glazing being at fault BUT the first sign of this is misting between the panes, there are double glazing repair companies around who can fix this without replacing the whole lot, its a case of taking the panes out, removing the tape seal from the edges and blowing them through with warm air to dry then re-taping them (the tape is a one way breathable tape, it can breathe out but not in)

*source: Used to manufacture sealed double glazed units.
#7
could be the windows, we had it really bad when it was single glazing, there would be puddles on the sills, double glazing we get maybe an inch of condensation on the bottom, drying clothes on radiators make it worse, if she cooks alot, ie boiling water. heating on or off...dont think it makes much difference,
#8
Do not use a company who canvasses you (or your gran), shop around ask people for recommendations etc.
banned#9
#10
I think it's purely because of the cold,i've only had my heating on once to make sure it's still working ok,my windows get soaked when it's really cold like this morning,i couldn't see out of them they were that fogged up,i'ts not to the point of running off onto the sills but some days i'm surprised it doesn't.

I hardly open a window either.oO
#11
Just read the units are 20 year old, meaning repair would not be worth it and new ones would be secure too (older units with the plastic trim on the outside are a burglars dream as the trim can be popped out quickly and the pane removed quickly and silently for entry)
#12
OK, thanks guys, It is difficult, but she's a stubborn woman. If I can't talk her out of the 'visit' then I can definitely cancel anything she agrees to (unless it really does look to be neccessary!) - I'm there every evening, so can rifle through her post. I think she dries her clothes, which she's handwashed, on airers in the front room, and with no heating on in the day this will not help. I'm going to convince her to put it on the timer, and forget about it. She frets so much about the cost of heating, especially when the news goes on about oil prices ALL the time. I think she really only has it on for half an hour FOR ME!, and then turns it off again. She's not broke, just tight! (Like me!)
banned#13
i have a dehumidifier and double glazing and i get this too, got the dehumidifier last year and it runs 24/7 doesnt stop the windows being wet
banned#14
Penny Saver
OK, thanks guys, It is difficult, but she's a stubborn woman. If I can't talk her out of the 'visit' then I can definitely cancel anything she agrees to (unless it really does look to be neccessary!) - I'm there every evening, so can rifle through her post. I think she dries her clothes, which she's handwashed, on airers in the front room, and with no heating on in the day this will not help. I'm going to convince her to put it on the timer, and forget about it. She frets so much about the cost of heating, especially when the news goes on about oil prices ALL the time. I think she really only has it on for half an hour FOR ME!, and then turns it off again. She's not broke, just tight! (Like me!)


Good luck!

I love my gran but she can also be hard work at times.
#15
Why would she pay for double glazing though instead of putting the heating on,that makes no sense even if she is tight lol
#16
deb8z
Why would she pay for double glazing though instead of putting the heating on,that makes no sense even if she is tight lol


I KNOW!!!! She's odd. I think she thinks if they are faulty they will be fixed free. I don't think she realises how old they are!
#17
DLM
Penny Saver
OK, thanks guys, It is difficult, but she's a stubborn woman. If I can't talk her out of the 'visit' then I can definitely cancel anything she agrees to (unless it really does look to be neccessary!) - I'm there every evening, so can rifle through her post. I think she dries her clothes, which she's handwashed, on airers in the front room, and with no heating on in the day this will not help. I'm going to convince her to put it on the timer, and forget about it. She frets so much about the cost of heating, especially when the news goes on about oil prices ALL the time. I think she really only has it on for half an hour FOR ME!, and then turns it off again. She's not broke, just tight! (Like me!)


Good luck!

I love my gran but she can also be hard work at times.


Sometimes she is SUCH hard work. I have to keep my visits short or I'd end up getting angry with her. She's not been the same since her stroke. She's physically capable, and doesn't need care. She gets an escorted taxi twice a week to do her shopping and my sister takes her out once a week too. I only have to go round once an evening to make sure she's safe and tucked in for the night, and it's HARD WORK!
#18
It was 53 degrees in my bedroom at 7am,last week it was around the 60 mark,so the temps have dropped significantly.
banned#19
Penny Saver
Sometimes she is SUCH hard work. I have to keep my visits short or I'd end up getting angry with her. She's not been the same since her stroke. She's physically capable, and doesn't need care. She gets an escorted taxi twice a week to do her shopping and my sister takes her out once a week too. I only have to go round once an evening to make sure she's safe and tucked in for the night, and it's HARD WORK!


I live 25 miles away from my gran so I am unable to go every day.

Social services help her by going in every morning and helping her put her tights on etc...
[mod]#20
deb8z
It was 53 degrees in my bedroom at 7am,last week it was around the 60 mark,so the temps have dropped significantly.


Have you had your insulation and cavity walls done? When i get up at 5:30 in the morning the temp is around 19 degrees without the heating on.
banned#21
deb8z
I think it's purely because of the cold,i've only had my heating on once to make sure it's still working ok,my windows get soaked when it's really cold like this morning,i couldn't see out of them they were that fogged up,i'ts not to the point of running off onto the sills but some days i'm surprised it doesn't.

I hardly open a window either.oO

same here but only in rooms that we spend most time in so just water vapour from breathing I reckon

just gonna open the window for 2 mins each day just to get fresh air through
#22
Syzable
deb8z
It was 53 degrees in my bedroom at 7am,last week it was around the 60 mark,so the temps have dropped significantly.


Have you had your insulation and cavity walls done? When i get up at 5:30 in the morning the temp is around 19 degrees without the heating on.


That's quite good. With no heatin gon my house gets down to about 13 over night, in the middle of winter, but when the sun comes up it can rocket to 20 with no help from me. So much glass at the front lets all the heat in from the sun!
[mod]#23
Penny Saver
Syzable
deb8z
It was 53 degrees in my bedroom at 7am,last week it was around the 60 mark,so the temps have dropped significantly.


Have you had your insulation and cavity walls done? When i get up at 5:30 in the morning the temp is around 19 degrees without the heating on.


That's quite good. With no heatin gon my house gets down to about 13 over night, in the middle of winter, but when the sun comes up it can rocket to 20 with no help from me. So much glass at the front lets all the heat in from the sun!


Yes, i was surprised. It used to get cold but we had it done last year and it's been toasty since. We only need to put the heating on if we have the windows open for fresh air (Smelly nappy odour. lol)
#24
I don't want cavity wall insulation,i've read up about it,in some cases it can cause damp and knowing me that would happen,i'm jinxed lol
#25
Yeah but you need the heating on with kids Sy,so yours is probably never left like mine without any heating on for long periods of time,mines been on once in 8 months.
[mod]#26
deb8z
Yeah but you need the heating on with kids Sy,so yours is probably never left like mine without any heating on for long periods of time,mines been on once in 8 months.


We hardly ever use it at the moment as the house is warm. Although come Winter it will be on as i can't stand not having windows open even when it's -5 outside. Our bedroom window hasn't been closed for years. lol
banned#27
I have my behind up against the fire.

Roll on ch next week :)
[mod]#28
DLM
I have my behind up against the fire.

Roll on ch next week :)


But it's mild outside today
banned#29
Syzable
But it's mild outside today


I live up north!
[mod]#30
DLM
Syzable
But it's mild outside today


I live up north!


Fair enough. :D lol
#31
#32
Syzable
DLM
Syzable
But it's mild outside today
I live up north!
Fair enough. :D lol

According to the weather it's 5 degrees at yours as well as here,but at yours it feels like 1 degree apparently and 2 here,so you should be colder :|
[mod]#33
deb8z
Syzable
DLM
Syzable
But it's mild outside today
I live up north!
Fair enough. :D lol


According to the weather it's 5 degrees at yours as well as here,but at yours it feels like 1 degree apparently and 2 here,so you should be colder :|


It's warmer than that.........i have the window open and not a cloud in the sky oO
banned#34
Just brought 1 of my hens inside for a bit.

She isn't very well at the moment.
#35
Ah the benefits of solid fuel, constant temperatures even on tickover our winter heating costs are about £20 a week in coal in comparison to our neighbours (identical house only difference is hers is gas) she is only in evenings and weekends and her gas is about £30 a week for the short periods, ours is 24/7!
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DLM
Just brought 1 of my hens inside for a bit.

She isn't very well at the moment.


Warm her up in the oven, works a treat. (kidding), we are down to 7 chooks now since black betty bit the dust bless her.
#37
harlzter
DLM
Just brought 1 of my hens inside for a bit.

She isn't very well at the moment.


Warm her up in the oven, works a treat. (kidding), we are down to 7 chooks now since black betty bit the dust bless her.


Give them a bit of mixed corn in the late afternoon when it gets chilly they digest it slowly and it releases body heat overnight.
banned#38
harlzter
Warm her up in the oven, works a treat. (kidding), we are down to 7 chooks now since black betty bit the dust bless her.

Give them a bit of mixed corn in the late afternoon when it gets chilly they digest it slowly and it releases body heat overnight.


I think Bea is on her way out.

It's a nightmare trying to give her antibiotics.

I need to get some more mixed corn, thanks.

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