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banned8y, 2w agoPosted 8 years, 2 weeks ago
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1 Like #1
I did scottish standard grade, higher and advanced higher biology.
The advanced higher was only where it got a bit harder. I think she should easily cope with it if she wants it. Its just really reading from a book thats all. A lot of it is what you have already done but a bit more in depth, so if she is interested then its no problem.
Plus medicine is a lot harder so if she wants it badly then she will manage fine.

Do you get tested with the home study?

Also is there no other way to get round the school situation. Surely if tehy see how determined she is and how much she wants it then allowing one extra kid in the class is not going to make a difference. I would get to the school and pester them repeatedly. I know a couple of my friends at school were bumped up or allowed to do stuff becasue they had extremely pushy parents.
banned#2
MCH1
I did scottish standard grade, higher and advanced higher biology.
The advanced higher was only where it got a bit harder. I think she should easily cope with it if she wants it. Its just really reading from a book thats all. A lot of it is what you have already done but a bit more in depth, so if she is interested then its no problem.
Plus medicine is a lot harder so if she wants it badly then she will manage fine.

Do you get tested with the home study?

Also is there no other way to get round the school situation. Surely if tehy see how determined she is and how much she wants it then allowing one extra kid in the class is not going to make a difference. I would get to the school and pester them repeatedly. I know a couple of my friends at school were bumped up or allowed to do stuff becasue they had extremely pushy parents.


Thanks for your advice :thumbsup:
1 Like #3
Would not recommend spending money on this, likely to become fed up within a few weeks with pressure of other work as well.

What other science subjects is she doing. ?

Getting into medicine is very competitive, even with all A grade A levels, that is not to say people cannot get into medicine with lower grades. But they also look for other activities eg voluntary work etc.
#4
two options. make her resit her gcses (an extra year out) or pay for her to do it privately.

good luck...there are loadsa ppl who do fab in a levels and not so well in gcses and vice versa!
banned#5
She's doing A level Psychology, Sociology and Health and social science. She's been doing very well in these subjects and they don't offer the option to resit the double science.
1 Like #6
to get into medicine she needs to do chemistry not biology. thats the core subject. she hasnt got that.... then no point applying. biology isnt necessary at all. get her into chem
banned#7
magicbeans
to get into medicine she needs to do chemistry not biology. thats the core subject. she hasnt got that.... then no point applying. biology isnt necessary at all. get her into chem


I heard she needs a full A level (2 years) Biology and one year Chemistry (AS), or am i wrong?
She wants to do one year Chemistry starting the next year
#8
I had the same problem when i was at school only got a 3 in standard Grade and if it wasn't for the teacher thinking i could do it i wouldn't of been allowed to do the Higher. Have you tried speaking to the teacher that will be taking the higher class.
1 Like #9
according to ukas your daughter is going to need

3 full A levels of a minimum AAB ratio and 4 AS levels. Reccomended to have full Chemistry A level and the AS levels to include chemistry and biology.

here is some info from the nhs website

http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=556
banned#10
BlondeBella
I had the same problem when i was at school only got a 3 in standard Grade and if it wasn't for the teacher think i could do it i wouldn't of been allowed to do the Higher. Have you tried speaking to the techer that will be taking the higher class.


She's now in year 12, they say if she really wants she can do the A level Biology at another college at the same time but i think that would be too much pressure for her to jump school to school. I've looked at quite a few college prospectus and they actually only ask for a Grade c, i wonder why my daughters school is so fussy? Maybe too much demand for the subject
1 Like #11
madmax23
She's now in year 12, they say if she really wants she can do the A level Biology at another college at the same time but i think that would be too much pressure for her to jump school to school. I've looked at quite a few college prospectus and they actually only ask for a Grade c, i wonder why my daughters school is so fussy? Maybe too much demand for the subject



It could also be the fact that the will only take the student on with B upwards as they want to have a high pass mark, which happens quiet alot in schools its all about the figures of who got what percentage of passes.
banned#12
venus_1980
according to ukas your daughter is going to need

3 full A levels of a minimum AAB ratio and 4 AS levels. Reccomended to have full Chemistry A level and the AS levels to include chemistry and biology.

here is some info from the nhs website

http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=556


That has such great information on that site! How come i've not come accross it before!?!? Thanks for the link!:thumbsup: Also can i say thanks so much to every one who's given me advice, you're all fantastic!:-D
banned#13
BlondeBella
It could also be the fact that the will only take the student on with B upwards as they want to have a high pass mark, which happens quiet alot in schools its all about the figures of who got what percentage of passes.


I agree with you on that!
#14
WTF is a Docter? Is that a Doctor that hasn't got a good grade in English language?
#15
I would go to the school in person as well, i know you have rung but if you go down and speak with the teacher and headteacher there may be a way to do it. Plus if it is the schools fault that she did the wrong exam then make sure they know it and everyone else does. Tell them you are going to the local paper etc or your councillor, most teachers want a quiet life and will maybe let her in the class after all.
banned#16
crd67
WTF is a Docter? Is that a Doctor that hasn't got a good grade in English language?


Didn't realise i was back at school, and for your information, you try typing on the internet and having a baby screaming next to you for attention! Thanks for your understanding and your helpful advice, people like you make others not ask a question on forums in fear of having a know it all like you thinking they have the right to be unnecessarily rude!!!! If you don't want to be helpful get off the Forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:x
banned#17
MCH1
I would go to the school in person as well, i know you have rung but if you go down and speak with the teacher and headteacher there may be a way to do it. Plus if it is the schools fault that she did the wrong exam then make sure they know it and everyone else does. Tell them you are going to the local paper etc or your councillor, most teachers want a quiet life and will maybe let her in the class after all.


Thanks for your help,
#18
I am sure she will do well but maybe she needs to consider other career options too. Although it's great when kids have an idea what they want to do, sometimes they can miss out on many other options as well.

Personally, I would make an appt with her teacher or year head, rather than a phone call. OK it might take a couple of weeks to organise but I am sure it will be far more productive in the long run. Sounds like she could also do with more input from school careers / connections service as she may not have had the best advice re medicine info
banned#19
iglimpse
I am sure she will do well but maybe she needs to consider other career options too. Although it's great when kids have an idea what they want to do, sometimes they can miss out on many other options as well.

Personally, I would make an appt with her teacher or year head, rather than a phone call. OK it might take a couple of weeks to organise but I am sure it will be far more productive in the long run. Sounds like she could also do with more input from school careers / connections service as she may not have had the best advice re medicine info

Yes, you're right, i think i'll have a chat with her later and see what we should do.
#20
if she is going to go to university there is always the option of foundation year study
#21
defo ask school but u MUST do chem....i applied for med back in 1999 (o im old!) and it was all about chem! didnt get grades so did medical biochem deg so i could get into med but plans went awry wen instead i got married and had kiddies haha!!
#22
Do some research. Just because it is not the usual route, it does not mean it is not possible. It may be possible to cover a subject via a recognised home tutoring service such as ICS. It may also be possible take a subject via self tuition. By this I mean writing to the exam board/s to get the syllabus/es and then tutoring yourself either via books and the web or engaging a home tutor. There are often ads in local papers for this.

Just a thought.
Dont let the school put off a course of study if it is really what you want to do.

Re taking exams. By speaking to the exam boards you can find out where it would be possible to take an exam. With regards to university entrance, surely this would be seen as an example of using initiative.

Good luck whatever you do :thumbsup:
#23
MCH1
Surely if tehy see how determined she is and how much she wants it then allowing one extra kid in the class is not going to make a difference. I would get to the school and pester them repeatedly. I know a couple of my friends at school were bumped up or allowed to do stuff becasue they had extremely pushy parents.


School is probably the easiest and cheapest option if you can get her included in the class. Maybe talk to your local MP about what steps you may be able to apply to get her included. Or just let the school believe you are going to do this. If she is finally included in the class you can still back up her teaching with home study if necessary.
#24
NO does not have to be final... Just a point in the negotiation :)
#25
iglimpse
Agree the initiative should be recognised but it won't by a medical school. Sadly, they have a huge pile of A & A* grade students to choose from. They do favour chemistry A level.

I think it would be really sad if the OP spent money on alternative / additional tuition. She is already doing other A levels, so any extra stuff outside school is certain to fail at this stage. If still determined, could stay on extra year to do the other subjects.

I don't understand the logic in contacting papers or MP, as there has been no meeting with the teachers yet. I do think that would be far more productive than wasting a lot of time and energy going to MP's. Surely that is a last resort
.

I am not convinced the OP, or daughter has all the info required yet. Need to get much more info from school / Connections before persuing other avenues.


No need to contact papers or even MPs as such. Point I was making was to raise an awareness that the subject of her daughter being denied access to study was being discussed more widely. Sometimes this can be useful along with the possibility that you may gain more info along the way.

The school may have made their decision in such a way that there is no possibility of studying this particular course at this particular school this year. But its a case of whether it is better to wait another year or not.

It may be that on balance it is better to wait, but if your daughter really feels that she is capable of this extra level of study and it is something that she really wants, there may be all sorts of options that allow for this.

Thing that irks me a bit is that if money was no object from any quarters nobody would have closed any doors. It would be a case of all doors open unless ability lets you down. That what makes me want to fight back.
#26
Few medical schools would look at anybody with a C in GCSE biology unfortunately.

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