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I get maxmium 987 kb/s since I changed to O2 home broadband. I used to be with Sky and got about 100 KB/s. But 100 KB/s isn't a MB is it? I was supposed to be getting 1-2 MB/s with SKy which would… Read More
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
I get maxmium 987 kb/s since I changed to O2 home broadband. I used to be with Sky and got about 100 KB/s. But 100 KB/s isn't a MB is it? I was supposed to be getting 1-2 MB/s with SKy which would of meant 1000KB/s, and with O2 now up to 20 MB/s, which would be 20000 KB/s.

Am I right in these calculations? If so why am I getting less than 1MB/s then with O2 now?

I think I have always assumed that 100 KB/s is 1 meg but it isn't is it? 1000KB is a meg.
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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#1
When they speak 'mb' it's megabits..

theres 8 megabits to a megabyte.

If you were on 20 MEGABYTE speed. Jeesus would everyone envy you..

You'll be on UP TO 20mbit..

Which is 2000kb/s.. maximum..
#2
oh I think I see now. Why don't they just say megabytes? Thats very confusing.
#3
So you would multiply the megabits by 1000 then divide by 8? Is that right to get the megabyte speed?
#4
xxnic0laxx;6165618
So you would multiply the megabits by 1000 then divide by 8? Is that right to get the megabyte speed?

a 20Mbit line should provide around 2400kb/s download speed.
#5
How'd you work that out though?
#6
xxnic0laxx
How'd you work that out though?


You wouldn't because its not guaranteed I'm with virgin and am on the 20mb as i have been since launch and am waiting for my 50mb broadband. On virgin 20mb broadband gives me a maximum of 2.35-2.4mbps which is what most 20mb users get because with cable broadband its fibre optic to the box and copper to your house. This means that they can get the speeds they advertise but with an ADSL line (BT SKY) they are using Phone cable which was never designed for data the fact they have got the speeds as high as they have is a miracle.

The reason the speed is stated as up to is because its theoretically possible to get the max speed. The further you are from the exchange the lower the speed as the signal degradation over distances so it maybe the maximum speed they advertise in the exchange but by the time it gets to you its 5-6max you also have to factor in usage as they would put you in a pool with neighbours say there might be 5 people in that pool and that pool is given a load of 25mb between them so if everyone's using the net at once the most you would get is 5mb if you where the only user on in that pool you would get way faster speeds that's why at peek times most ISP's cap speeds.

In your case as with every other ADSL customer there is no equation to work out what your speed should be because there's that many factors involved and your neighbour may be with the same ISP as you yet they may have half the speed you do that's why it says up to because the only certainty is you wont get over 20mb every customer gets a different speed. That's why virgin say 10mb.20mb with no upto as they know what speed they can provide. If your getting 8mb your doing very well just remember it's 1024kb in a mb and 1024mb in a 1gb no one ever gets the downstream they think because your also upping data but your up speed is way less than your down that's why its called Asymmetrical digital subscriber line (ADSL).
#7
If you're only getting 2.35-2.4mbits per second then you're being robbed , i get my full 10mbit from virgin, and many who get 20mbit get their full quota.
polly69;6165862
You wouldn't because its not guaranteed I'm with virgin and am on the 20mb as i have been since launch and am waiting for my 50mb broadband. On virgin 20mb broadband gives me a maximum of 2.35-2.4mbps which is what most 20mb users get because with cable broadband its fibre optic to the box and copper to your house. This means that they can get the speeds they advertise but with an ADSL line (BT SKY) they are using Phone cable which was never designed for data the fact they have got the speeds as high as they have is a miracle.

The reason the speed is stated as up to is because its theoretically possible to get the max speed. The further you are from the exchange the lower the speed as the signal degradation over distances so it maybe the maximum speed they advertise in the exchange but by the time it gets to you its 5-6max you also have to factor in usage as they would put you in a pool with neighbours say there might be 5 people in that pool and that pool is given a load of 25mb between them so if everyone's using the net at once the most you would get is 5mb if you where the only user on in that pool you would get way faster speeds that's why at peek times most ISP's cap speeds.

In your case as with every other ADSL customer there is no equation to work out what your speed should be because there's that many factors involved and your neighbour may be with the same ISP as you yet they may have half the speed you do that's why it says up to because the only certainty is you wont get over 20mb every customer gets a different speed. That's why virgin say 10mb.20mb with no upto as they know what speed they can provide. If your getting 8mb your doing very well just remember it's 1024kb in a mb and 1024mb in a 1gb no one ever gets the downstream they think because your also upping data but your up speed is way less than your down that's why its called Asymmetrical digital subscriber line (ADSL).
banned#8
your question is confusing because you state KB and kb and then mb and MB

MB = MegaBytes

Mb = Megabits

KB = KiloBytes (1000 Bytes)

Kb = Kilobits (1000 bits)

ki = Kibibyte (1024 Bytes)

mi - Mebibyte (1024 Kibibytes)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_%28data%29
#9
t0mm
When they speak 'mb' it's megabits..

theres 8 megabits to a megabyte.

If you were on 20 MEGABYTE speed. Jeesus would everyone envy you..

You'll be on UP TO 20mbit..

Which is 2000kb/s.. maximum..


There's 8 bits to a byte not 8 megabits to a megabyte
banned#10
tallpete33;6166098
There's 8 bits to a byte not 8 megabits to a megabyte

right & wrong

There's 8 bits to a byte AND 8 megabits to a megabyte

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk173/csiman2/ScreenShot043.jpg
#11
As csiman said ^^^^

Loads of people get confused over the ISPs stated speeds. I'm quite lucky on an (upto) 8Mbit connection in that I actually get at most times of the day between 650KB/s - 800KB/s, so approx 3/4 of a megabyte on average per second.

Here is a good speed test website for you to use if you want http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/

my results below
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1251713637&v=7754930

Upload speed is complete pants, but thems the breaks I guess.

[edit[ just noticed the time of the speed test.. the site obviously didn't alter for DST, LOL
#12
tallpete33;6166098
There's 8 bits to a byte not 8 megabits to a megabyte

lmao....

I know what I'm talking about...
Yes theres 8 bits to a byte, also theres 8megabits to a megabyte..

All that's in front is mega...
:roll:
#13
Well I'm a tiny bit wiser but not much!

Thanks for your thorough response Tomm. I am near the exchange and I know the distance effects the speeed. I just wasn't sure about conversion from MB to Mb.

And I didn't know MB was different from Mb and KB & Kb were different. I just done a download test and got about 7015 kbps. Is that good then? Is that 8Mb?
#14
xxnic0laxx;6169044
Well I'm a tiny bit wiser but not much!

Thanks for your thorough response Tomm. I am near the exchange and I know the distance effects the speeed. I just wasn't sure about conversion from MB to Mb.

And I didn't know MB was different from Mb and KB & Kb were different. I just done a download test and got about 7015 kbps. Is that good then? Is that 8Mb?

That would be decent for an 8megabit connection.
#15
Mines is up to 20Mb
#16
xxnic0laxx;6169105
Mines is up to 20Mb

Up to is the key words there.

They could give you 0.5megabit connection. But that's 'fine' because they're giving you an UP TO 20Mbit connection.
banned#17
xxnic0laxx;6169105
Mines is up to 20Mb

might as well go for a cheaper package if you are maxing out at 8mbps

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