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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
channel 5 9pm benefits Britain .... enjoy

everything that is wrong with england in one show

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It doesn't matter if it's "only a few cases" - what matters is responsibility

Why should a large family who have never worked be able to afford holidays, cable tv and a car? yes it happens and it's wrong

Benefits should be capped at 3 children, restricted to food stamps and rent - why should tax payers pay for others phonecalls and tv entertainment whilst the tax payer is hard at work trying to survive and struggles to find the money for cable tv?

I remember years ago @ Sainsburys when immigrants were given coupons but like America the coupons could be used to buy anything... the immigrants brought phonecard after phonecard

JSA (Job Seekers Allowance) is paid to help people find work and attend interviews not buy fags and cider

We (as a country) are too soft on those that don't deserve and too hard on those that need.



Edited By: philphil61 on Jul 14, 2014 22:41
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biddilybah
philphil61
It doesn't matter if it's "only a few cases" - what matters is responsibility

Why should a large family who have never worked be able to afford holidays, cable tv and a car? yes it happens and it's wrong

Benefits should be capped at 3 children, restricted to food stamps and rent - why should tax payers pay for others phonecalls and tv entertainment whilst the tax payer is hard at work trying to survive and struggles to find the money for cable tv?

I remember years ago @ Sainsburys when immigrants were given coupons but like America the coupons could be used to buy anything... the immigrants brought phonecard after phonecard

JSA (Job Seekers Allowance) is paid to help people find work and attend interviews not buy fags and cider

We (as a country) are too soft on those that don't deserve and too hard on those that need.



Why should people like my parents, work for over 30 years, end up disabled and be forced to live a miserable existence because you want to punish those who take the p*** with benefits?

Let me guess, the disabled would be exempt...yeah because the government would do that wouldn't they? (_;)

I think the part which annoys people are the complete dross that feel that it is their god given right to have benefits. The Romanian woman who was kicking off as she had been sanctioned (and not for the first time) as she hadn't actively been seeking employment. I mean come on, really, how hard can it be to "look for work", I mean lets face it, she was at no risk of anyone actually employing her.

I have no objection whatsoever to people coming to this country and working, provided that they are going to pay their taxes and NI like the rest of us.

There was the guy on there last night who was deported previously for working illegally.....................so, he's not allowed to work in this country yet the government has no objections to handing this benefits to this scrote each week???
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Why is this allowed to happen!!!
I look at my wage slip each month and the deductions!! God forbid I should ever find myself unemployed after paying into the system for 30 years, I would get £72 a week for a maximum of 6 months, and not a penny more!!
That's how the hard working of us are repaid!!!
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Hope your watching mr d cameron


Shocking unbelievable I get hardly anything of this government because my house earns 1000 over so called limit I get peanuts for my 2 kids me and the wife worked since 16 and look after a 1 yr old and 4



So angry rite now

Ukip here I come
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the bloke on it is trying to save up 40k to build a house in romania hes got 9k already all from benefits.... i think im gonna explode oO

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Is it for real?
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I'm soooooo angry!!!
Thank you England. She give me house, she give me food, she give me £40,000 in two years!
Arghhhhhh.......,,
6 Likes #3
Why is this allowed to happen!!!
I look at my wage slip each month and the deductions!! God forbid I should ever find myself unemployed after paying into the system for 30 years, I would get £72 a week for a maximum of 6 months, and not a penny more!!
That's how the hard working of us are repaid!!!
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4 Likes #5
I was watching Resident evil on my new 3D TV tonight and couldn't stop screaming at one of the zombies!

"Its so bloody real and looks like its coming right at mel!" I shouted to my wife.

"FFS!" She replied, "will you show my mum to her seat then turn the TV on."..
6 Likes #6
Hope your watching mr d cameron


Shocking unbelievable I get hardly anything of this government because my house earns 1000 over so called limit I get peanuts for my 2 kids me and the wife worked since 16 and look after a 1 yr old and 4



So angry rite now

Ukip here I come
4 Likes #7
You all realise that these shows are sensationalised and don't reflect society at all?
6 Likes #8
the bloke on it is trying to save up 40k to build a house in romania hes got 9k already all from benefits.... i think im gonna explode oO
6 Likes #9
biddilybah
You all realise that these shows are sensationalised and don't reflect society at all?

It may be sensationalised but it doesn't make it false it's happening out there and more than you think
4 Likes #10
scottydoobuy
the bloke on it is trying to save up 40k to build a house in romania hes got 9k already all from benefits.... i think im gonna explode oO
Still no idea why they don't do food stamps, whenever I go through "poor" area's nearby that are populated mostly by people on benefits there is normally a car in the drive and a sky satellite
3 Likes #11
Lets all believe everything we see on tele.
1 Like #12
BarmyBulldog
biddilybah
You all realise that these shows are sensationalised and don't reflect society at all?

It may be sensationalised but it doesn't make it false it's happening out there and more than you think

I'm sure there are a few cases, but these shows are done to make you think that everyone is living these people's lives. People seem to struggle to understand that not every benefit claimant is like these people.
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1 Like #14
biddilybah
BarmyBulldog
biddilybah
You all realise that these shows are sensationalised and don't reflect society at all?

It may be sensationalised but it doesn't make it false it's happening out there and more than you think

I'm sure there are a few cases, but these shows are done to make you think that everyone is living these people's lives. People seem to struggle to understand that not every benefit claimant is like these people.

No but it's not uncommon in the slighest my mother has worked at the job centre for over 25 years and these cases aren't few and far between domestic or foreign claimants
8 Likes #15
It doesn't matter if it's "only a few cases" - what matters is responsibility

Why should a large family who have never worked be able to afford holidays, cable tv and a car? yes it happens and it's wrong

Benefits should be capped at 3 children, restricted to food stamps and rent - why should tax payers pay for others phonecalls and tv entertainment whilst the tax payer is hard at work trying to survive and struggles to find the money for cable tv?

I remember years ago @ Sainsburys when immigrants were given coupons but like America the coupons could be used to buy anything... the immigrants brought phonecard after phonecard

JSA (Job Seekers Allowance) is paid to help people find work and attend interviews not buy fags and cider

We (as a country) are too soft on those that don't deserve and too hard on those that need.



Edited By: philphil61 on Jul 14, 2014 22:41
3 Likes #16
philphil61
It doesn't matter if it's "only a few cases" - what matters is responsibility

Why should a large family who have never worked be able to afford holidays, cable tv and a car? yes it happens and it's wrong

Benefits should be capped at 3 children, restricted to food stamps and rent - why should tax payers pay for others phonecalls and tv entertainment whilst the tax payer is hard at work trying to survive and struggles to find the money for cable tv?

I remember years ago @ Sainsburys when immigrants were given coupons but like America the coupons could be used to buy anything... the immigrants brought phonecard after phonecard

JSA (Job Seekers Allowance) is paid to help people find work and attend interviews not buy fags and cider

We (as a country) are too soft on those that don't deserve and too hard on those that need.



Why should people like my parents, work for over 30 years, end up disabled and be forced to live a miserable existence because you want to punish those who take the p*** with benefits?

Let me guess, the disabled would be exempt...yeah because the government would do that wouldn't they? (_;)
6 Likes #17
biddilybah
philphil61
It doesn't matter if it's "only a few cases" - what matters is responsibility

Why should a large family who have never worked be able to afford holidays, cable tv and a car? yes it happens and it's wrong

Benefits should be capped at 3 children, restricted to food stamps and rent - why should tax payers pay for others phonecalls and tv entertainment whilst the tax payer is hard at work trying to survive and struggles to find the money for cable tv?

I remember years ago @ Sainsburys when immigrants were given coupons but like America the coupons could be used to buy anything... the immigrants brought phonecard after phonecard

JSA (Job Seekers Allowance) is paid to help people find work and attend interviews not buy fags and cider

We (as a country) are too soft on those that don't deserve and too hard on those that need.



Why should people like my parents, work for over 30 years, end up disabled and be forced to live a miserable existence because you want to punish those who take the p*** with benefits?

Let me guess, the disabled would be exempt...yeah because the government would do that wouldn't they? (_;)

Did I mention the disabled? Did I mention pensioners? the answer to both was NO

The tv program, although I haven't yet watched tonights episode mainly covers idle benefit claimants or large families who have never worked.

I'm now a widow - I lost my partner to MS so I fully understand and appreciate how disabled people are penalised but then again some "disabled" people are not really disabled. Unortunately in every walk of life you get the honest, hard working (or trying to find work) or disabled person and then you get the lowlifes, scum of the earth who don't give a ****

Well I give a ****, I care about what's going on in our country
4 Likes #18
People who get so worked up and fall for this are idiots! This is so over sensationalized it's unreal! Yes you get a few people taking the mikey but the majority struggle! It's funny how get so worked over this but not the government and banks for causing the 08 crises, **** wages and employers treated like dirt. Plus the outright attack on the jobless sick and disabled.

Jobcenters have now been told they have to basically bully claimaents off ESA (leaked by a manager who works at jobcentre)

So stop being an idiot and believing this over sensationalized crap and direct your anger at the government for doing ****ing awful job (intentionally)

Edited By: Cantona007 on Jul 14, 2014 23:59
1 Like #19
Cantona007
People who get so worked up and fall for this are idiots! This is so over sensationalized it's unreal! Yes you get a few people taking the mikey but the majority struggle! It's funny how get so worked over this but not the government and banks for causing the 08 crises, **** wages and employers treated like dirt. Plus the outright attack on the jobless sick and disabled.

Jobcenters have now been told they have to basically bully claimaents off ESA (leaked by a manager who works at jobcentre)

So stop being an idiot and believing this over sensationalized crap and direct your anger at the government for doing ****ing awful job (intentionally)

If we didn't have these few lowlife scum then maybe the more deserving people would benefit. Your argument that it's only a small minority is pointless. It's only a small amount of drug addicts that cause everyday people problems. It's only a small amount of crooks that cause crime, it's only a small amount of drivers that don't have a licence or insurance or MOT but they still get in the news or on tv and still cause everyday people problems!
3 Likes #20
Found this programme interesting to say the least. Haven't bothered to watch similar things much before.

On a human level, I don't blame the 'foreigners' coming over here for an easy life from a hard background, they're just taking a nice easy option.

On the other hand, I can't quite understand why its allowed to happen. The gov't is supposedly obsessed with saving money everywhere at the moment. I feel this is being allowed to happen for a reason. What that reason is, I don't know.
4 Likes #21
I don't watch these shows, because I know it will infuriate me. Simple solutions?

Two years proven residency?

Food stamps, non transferable, not to be used for electronics etc. or alcohol, or tobacco.

Regular financial audit if in receipt of highest payments.

Required voluntary service in order to keep benefits. This should see the genuine 'looking for work' get some relevany experience too...

Special case team, for those who want to apply for funds for other needs.

But it would never happen, because someone will say it's too restrictive. (That's the point)
#22
ashmac
Hope your watching mr d cameron


Shocking unbelievable I get hardly anything of this government because my house earns 1000 over so called limit I get peanuts for my 2 kids me and the wife worked since 16 and look after a 1 yr old and 4



So angry rite now

Ukip here I come
You're right the system doesn't encourage people to earn more at the margin. Interestingly if you can reduce your gross earnings by paying loads into a pension and live off savings instead you could claim loads in benefits ( tax credits etc) ! That's so wrong I know but that's the ridiculous benefit system for you.
#23
redhot999
ashmac
Hope your watching mr d cameron


Shocking unbelievable I get hardly anything of this government because my house earns 1000 over so called limit I get peanuts for my 2 kids me and the wife worked since 16 and look after a 1 yr old and 4



So angry rite now

Ukip here I come
You're right the system doesn't encourage people to earn more at the margin. Interestingly if you can reduce your gross earnings by paying loads into a pension and live off savings instead you could claim loads in benefits ( tax credits etc) ! That's so wrong I know but that's the ridiculous benefit system for you.


what so if I up my pension it will reduce my earnings but the earnings are gross isnt the pension taking out after my gross

would like to no how u go about this
#24
ashmac
redhot999
ashmac
Hope your watching mr d cameron


Shocking unbelievable I get hardly anything of this government because my house earns 1000 over so called limit I get peanuts for my 2 kids me and the wife worked since 16 and look after a 1 yr old and 4



So angry rite now

Ukip here I come
You're right the system doesn't encourage people to earn more at the margin. Interestingly if you can reduce your gross earnings by paying loads into a pension and live off savings instead you could claim loads in benefits ( tax credits etc) ! That's so wrong I know but that's the ridiculous benefit system for you.

what so if I up my pension it will reduce my earnings but the earnings are gross isnt the pension taking out after my gross

would like to no how u go about this
If you earn £20k gross pay £3k into a company pension say, your gross pay for tax and tax credit purposes is £17k. It's as if you just didn't earn that £3k (you will pay NI on £20k though unless your employer set the pension scheme set up on a salary sacrifice basis whereby Ni would be calculated on £17k).



Edited By: redhot999 on Jul 15, 2014 08:42
7 Likes #25
biddilybah
philphil61
It doesn't matter if it's "only a few cases" - what matters is responsibility

Why should a large family who have never worked be able to afford holidays, cable tv and a car? yes it happens and it's wrong

Benefits should be capped at 3 children, restricted to food stamps and rent - why should tax payers pay for others phonecalls and tv entertainment whilst the tax payer is hard at work trying to survive and struggles to find the money for cable tv?

I remember years ago @ Sainsburys when immigrants were given coupons but like America the coupons could be used to buy anything... the immigrants brought phonecard after phonecard

JSA (Job Seekers Allowance) is paid to help people find work and attend interviews not buy fags and cider

We (as a country) are too soft on those that don't deserve and too hard on those that need.



Why should people like my parents, work for over 30 years, end up disabled and be forced to live a miserable existence because you want to punish those who take the p*** with benefits?

Let me guess, the disabled would be exempt...yeah because the government would do that wouldn't they? (_;)

I think the part which annoys people are the complete dross that feel that it is their god given right to have benefits. The Romanian woman who was kicking off as she had been sanctioned (and not for the first time) as she hadn't actively been seeking employment. I mean come on, really, how hard can it be to "look for work", I mean lets face it, she was at no risk of anyone actually employing her.

I have no objection whatsoever to people coming to this country and working, provided that they are going to pay their taxes and NI like the rest of us.

There was the guy on there last night who was deported previously for working illegally.....................so, he's not allowed to work in this country yet the government has no objections to handing this benefits to this scrote each week???
3 Likes #26
It does make me wonder why the Gov don't close these loopholes especially when the money is being funneled abroad which is obviously bad for the UK economy,
They were very quick to target people on sickness benefits & send them to ATOS for assessments but not so hasty to stop child benefit when the kids have been moved overseas & some adults are here living off the cash

They could clamp down quite easily on this as it's not a law so doesn't need to go through Parliament/House of Lords

It was happening under Blair & Brown as well so not a new phenomenon but as Tray said earlier the real question is why is it being allowed to happen

answers on a postcard to the usual address
1 Like #27
DarkEnergy2012
It does make me wonder why the Gov don't close these loopholes especially when the money is being funneled abroad which is obviously bad for the UK economy,
They were very quick to target people on sickness benefits & send them to ATOS for assessments but not so hasty to stop child benefit when the kids have been moved overseas & some adults are here living off the cash

They could clamp down quite easily on this as it's not a law so doesn't need to go through Parliament/House of Lords

It was happening under Blair & Brown as well so not a new phenomenon but as Tray said earlier the real question is why is it being allowed to happen

answers on a postcard to the usual address

It's being allowed to happen because our own citizens have these rights and if we were to stop it for immigrants we'd be classed as racist and challenged in the European Court of Human Rights. Remember this is why we joined the EU....... or did we?

This is the only reason I supported UKIP last elections because we are being shafted left, right and double penetrated in the centre

Yes I want a Europe where closer ties, where people can freely travel (travel does not mean live), and buy goods easily. I do not want a Europe where the poorest countries (because off corruption that still continues and bad governance) can freely move to the richest countries and take, take, take. We are not alone in the - Germany, France etc also suffer this but their governments are trying to do a little more to restrict the abuse.


Edited By: philphil61 on Jul 15, 2014 11:35
#28
I think you'll find its probably Brits milking the system, most of the immigrants are working and paying tax, the fact that this programme shows Romanians is just to wind us up. Most of those immigrants have left their own country because its difficult to live on the pay they receive, you cannot blame them for wanting a better life, many are well educated, desperate to work.
I think that benefits should be reduced if you have more than 2 or 3 kids, if you have paid minimal amounts in to the tax system. Tthere is no reason why if minimum wage is good enough for people in work then that is the level of benefits you should get whilst out of work. Its completely ridiculous that many working families cannot buy in areas where benefit claimants live because the price of houses is too high.

Edited By: winchman on Jul 15, 2014 12:35
2 Likes #29
winchman
I think you'll find its probably Brits milking the system, most of the immigrants are working and paying tax, the fact that this programme shows Romanians is just to wind us up. Most of those immigrants have left their own country because its difficult to live on the pay they receive, you cannot blame them for wanting a better life, many are well educated, desperate to work.
I think that benefits should be reduced if you have more than 2 or 3 kids, if you have paid minimal amounts in to the tax system. Tthere is no reason why if minimum wage is good enough for people in work then that is the level of benefits you should get whilst out of work. Its completely ridiculous that many working families cannot buy in areas where benefit claimants live because the price of houses is too high.

It probably is "most Brit's" that milk the system. Yes if I could go to another European country and get better free benefits than in my own country of course I'd go - the fact that this is allowed by our government gets me!! The government quickly judge jobless/benefit claimants like most tax payers judge them. The government want to reduce "the welfare budget" and to reduce it they look at our pensioners and at our disabled and at the jobless.

If like in The Philippines where they have a law that states "If a filipino can do the job a filipino must be employed" thereby reducing the amount of "overseas job opportunities". If the UK had a similar law our "own UK citizen" unemployment figure would be zero and then we could "shop around for overseas to fill those vacancies" but no - we allow EU citizens to take low paid jobs and give tax credits. We allow the Romanians to only employ Romanians and Polish to employ only Polish without challenging it as unfair or discrimination (and I use Romanians and Polish only as examples as it happens with Chinese, Pakistani's etc).

The fact that both Romanians and Slovakians were portrayed in this documentary might only be a small number.. the fact that it happens so blatantly is the problem. (see my other comment #19)

Yes - restrict child benefit to 3 children

Yes JSA should help you find work < that's why it's called Job Seekers Allowance (the title says it all) it should not be used to buy fags and booze (or drugs).

Agreed - it is ridiculous that housing prices make it impossible for some hard workers to even get on "the ladder" but the increase is caused by 2 things

a - supply and demand - if insufficient available housing property values go up (sorry send the EU migrants back home)

b - capitalism - wealthy people (including the likes of Russians) buying property to make money

There is a few plus sides to being in European Union (or supposed to be but I've yet found any) and I have nothing against foreigners coming to the UK to work and pay taxes for a better life. I have issues of migrants coming here to rape our country, feed off of it's benefits and not put anything back into it. Getting benefits money and sending it back home to make their own home better? wtf it's wrong... so very wrong
#30
alanlukeb1
scottydoobuy
the bloke on it is trying to save up 40k to build a house in romania hes got 9k already all from benefits.... i think im gonna explode oO
Still no idea why they don't do food stamps, whenever I go through "poor" area's nearby that are populated mostly by people on benefits there is normally a car in the drive and a sky satellite

and what do you class as a poor area? My parents live on a council estate, my father worked until he was 68 and is on a civil service pension, they are one of the few there that still rent off the council, over 80% of the homes have been baught and sold many times under the right to buy scheme, the flat upstars from my parents was sold a few years back for 270k, the flat below them belongs to a landlord who fills it full of migrant builders on short let.

how are you judging an area to be a poor one or not?
#31
philphil61
winchman
I think you'll find its probably Brits milking the system, most of the immigrants are working and paying tax, the fact that this programme shows Romanians is just to wind us up. Most of those immigrants have left their own country because its difficult to live on the pay they receive, you cannot blame them for wanting a better life, many are well educated, desperate to work.
I think that benefits should be reduced if you have more than 2 or 3 kids, if you have paid minimal amounts in to the tax system. Tthere is no reason why if minimum wage is good enough for people in work then that is the level of benefits you should get whilst out of work. Its completely ridiculous that many working families cannot buy in areas where benefit claimants live because the price of houses is too high.

It probably is "most Brit's" that milk the system. Yes if I could go to another European country and get better free benefits than in my own country of course I'd go - the fact that this is allowed by our government gets me!! The government quickly judge jobless/benefit claimants like most tax payers judge them. The government want to reduce "the welfare budget" and to reduce it they look at our pensioners and at our disabled and at the jobless.

If like in The Philippines where they have a law that states "If a filipino can do the job a filipino must be employed" thereby reducing the amount of "overseas job opportunities". If the UK had a similar law our "own UK citizen" unemployment figure would be zero and then we could "shop around for overseas to fill those vacancies" but no - we allow EU citizens to take low paid jobs and give tax credits. We allow the Romanians to only employ Romanians and Polish to employ only Polish without challenging it as unfair or discrimination (and I use Romanians and Polish only as examples as it happens with Chinese, Pakistani's etc).

The fact that both Romanians and Slovakians were portrayed in this documentary might only be a small number.. the fact that it happens so blatantly is the problem. (see my other comment #19)

Yes - restrict child benefit to 3 children

Yes JSA should help you find work < that's why it's called Job Seekers Allowance (the title says it all) it should not be used to buy fags and booze (or drugs).

Agreed - it is ridiculous that housing prices make it impossible for some hard workers to even get on "the ladder" but the increase is caused by 2 things

a - supply and demand - if insufficient available housing property values go up (sorry send the EU migrants back home)

b - capitalism - wealthy people (including the likes of Russians) buying property to make money

There is a few plus sides to being in European Union (or supposed to be but I've yet found any) and I have nothing against foreigners coming to the UK to work and pay taxes for a better life. I have issues of migrants coming here to rape our country, feed off of it's benefits and not put anything back into it. Getting benefits money and sending it back home to make their own home better? wtf it's wrong... so very wrong

Err....no. It's literally impossible to have zero unemployment. It just cannot happen.
#32
Cantona007
Err....no. It's literally impossible to have zero unemployment. It just cannot happen.

How is it impossible?

Over 200 thousand Eastern EU citizens have relocated to the UK since the borders were opened
There is also other EU and international migrants already employed within the UK
The NHS, the farmers and other businesses will state "without the possibility of migrants we couldn't function"

The unemployment total is just over 2million

Now imagine that all these foreign workers were sent home and the jobs were filled by UK citizens - the reduction in benefit budget + the spending within the UK by wage earners would increase UK profits and investment would increase making more job opportunities.

You have to look at the whole area not just the jobless total and number of migrants as most migrants will send their earnings back to their originating country
#33
philphil61
Cantona007
Err....no. It's literally impossible to have zero unemployment. It just cannot happen.

How is it impossible?

Over 200 thousand Eastern EU citizens have relocated to the UK since the borders were opened
There is also other EU and international migrants already employed within the UK
The NHS, the farmers and other businesses will state "without the possibility of migrants we couldn't function"

The unemployment total is just over 2million

Now imagine that all these foreign workers were sent home and the jobs were filled by UK citizens - the reduction in benefit budget + the spending within the UK by wage earners would increase UK profits and investment would increase making more job opportunities.

You have to look at the whole area not just the jobless total and number of migrants as most migrants will send their earnings back to their originating country

Simply because we still wouldn't have enough jobs and still too many people. Jobs are being cut and added all the time, lot of employees are treated like dirt and want/will leave. Why should employees stick with a company that treats them like a piece of dirt? It's not possible to have full employment!

Also the government don't give a toss about you, me anybody! They're intentionally screwing our country and our lives for their gain.

Edited By: Cantona007 on Jul 15, 2014 14:27
#34
Cantona007
philphil61
Cantona007
Err....no. It's literally impossible to have zero unemployment. It just cannot happen.

How is it impossible?

Over 200 thousand Eastern EU citizens have relocated to the UK since the borders were opened
There is also other EU and international migrants already employed within the UK
The NHS, the farmers and other businesses will state "without the possibility of migrants we couldn't function"

The unemployment total is just over 2million

Now imagine that all these foreign workers were sent home and the jobs were filled by UK citizens - the reduction in benefit budget + the spending within the UK by wage earners would increase UK profits and investment would increase making more job opportunities.

You have to look at the whole area not just the jobless total and number of migrants as most migrants will send their earnings back to their originating country

Simply because we still wouldn't have enough jobs and still too many people. Jobs are being cut and added all the time, lot of employees are treated like dirt and want/will leave. Why should employees stick with a company that treats them like a piece of dirt? It's not possible to have full employment!

Also the government don't give a toss about you, me anybody! They're intentionally screwing our country and our lives for their gain.

Also the government don't give a toss about you, me anybody! They're intentionally screwing our country and our lives for their gain.

that I agree with - doesn't matter which country you are in - they are all corrupt in some way or another

Regarding your other response it is possible it just needs good management but it's the same for most employers - they will do what's best for the financial gain and their benefit rather than the benefit of UK citizens. Only after the war was "full employment" reached but we shouldn't need a war to fix the majority of issues.
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[quote=philphil61]It doesn't matter if it's "only a few cases" - what matters is responsibilty

have you ever thought about going into politics?. You're wasted on here David Cameron should appoint you as minister for DWP or whoever sorts out Benefits. I'd vote for you.
Just watching Nick and Margaret on BBC1, be interesting to see what they find out.
#36
Error440
alanlukeb1
scottydoobuy
the bloke on it is trying to save up 40k to build a house in romania hes got 9k already all from benefits.... i think im gonna explode oO
Still no idea why they don't do food stamps, whenever I go through "poor" area's nearby that are populated mostly by people on benefits there is normally a car in the drive and a sky satellite

and what do you class as a poor area? My parents live on a council estate, my father worked until he was 68 and is on a civil service pension, they are one of the few there that still rent off the council, over 80% of the homes have been baught and sold many times under the right to buy scheme, the flat upstars from my parents was sold a few years back for 270k, the flat below them belongs to a landlord who fills it full of migrant builders on short let.

how are you judging an area to be a poor one or not?
I class a area poor where the crime rate is high and mostly people on benefits live, cant really argue with that oO
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I thought the programme last night was brilliant, fair play to them all.
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[quote=philphil61]It doesn't matter if it's "only a few cases" - what matters is responsibilty

have you ever thought about going into politics?. You're wasted on here David Cameron should appoint you as minister for DWP or whoever sorts out Benefits. I'd vote for you.
Just watching Nick and Margaret on BBC1, be interesting to see what they find out.

They wouldn't let me into the House of Commons and especially in front of the press because I'd be to vocal and speak the truth

As for Nick & Margaret - please consider this advice/information

It's broadcasted on the BBC - a television organisation that is paid for by the public (tv license payers) and is supposed to have no political bias - roflmao those with common sense know that this is complete trivia

It's probably been "encouraged to "fight" the other channels current agenda on benefit/immigration documentaries

There is no islamic/muslim individual giving there voice and/or being challenged

No I am not racist - any migrant can come to the UK so long as they are prepared to integrate (that's a popular word these days), to work and to pay taxes so long as there is a requirement/need for that person to come to the UK.

I am against the free movement of people (open door policy), the EU law that states we must provide housing, benefits and medical needs even if they are not working. The old phrase I keep using time and time again "When in Rome" - if I was to go to The Philippines I should be allowed to work (not true), I should be allowed free medical treatment (not true), I should be allowed free education (not true)

I would like a law (same as The Philippines) if a UK citizen can do the job a UK citizen should be employed.

Everyone should be paid at least the minimum wage and wage rises should come before management bonuses unfortunately we are like most every other country with democratic elected leaders who are corrupt beyond belief. Give our MP's a fixed wage with no added expenses except mileage/transport allowance because if they were in the normal employment that is all they would get and they are no different to anyone else.
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So we're all meant to be adhering to EU law, then why do all the Eastern European immigrants not stop at the next country then?, why doesn't Spain for example give out the same benefits as we here in the UK hand out? Why can we not 'opt out' like other countries obviously have? if only we had the honest and exact answers from those in power.
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the bloke on it is trying to save up 40k to build a house in romania hes got 9k already all from benefits.... i think im gonna explode oO
Still no idea why they don't do food stamps, whenever I go through "poor" area's nearby that are populated mostly by people on benefits there is normally a car in the drive and a sky satellite

and what do you class as a poor area? My parents live on a council estate, my father worked until he was 68 and is on a civil service pension, they are one of the few there that still rent off the council, over 80% of the homes have been baught and sold many times under the right to buy scheme, the flat upstars from my parents was sold a few years back for 270k, the flat below them belongs to a landlord who fills it full of migrant builders on short let.

how are you judging an area to be a poor one or not?
I class a area poor where the crime rate is high and mostly people on benefits live, cant really argue with that oO

how do you know they are on benefits? Have you asked them?

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