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Far Cry 4 Removed From Xbox One Store - Renders Game Unplayable

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Apparently Xbox One users in the US and the UK who have downloaded the digital version of Far Cry 4 are not able to play it, since the game was removed from Xbox One store. The reasons for.the game… Read More
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2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
Apparently Xbox One users in the US and the UK who have downloaded the digital version of Far Cry 4 are not able to play it, since the game was removed from Xbox One store.

The reasons for.the games removal are not clear, but the effect of the games removal from the store on the locally downloaded version of the game raises concerns about what happens when Microsoft chooses to remove a game from the store.

I do not have an Xbox One so I can not verify this first hand, but as a PS4 owner with a small digital library, it is worth considering when choosing between digital and physical...

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http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/far_cry_4/news/digital_copies_of_far_cry_4_rendered_unplayable_on_xbox_one_after_game_disappears_from_xbox_store.html
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2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
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deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

I'd prefer an entire digital library & would happily convert my physical to digital if the option ever became available. I never sell games & find it a pain swapping discs, it's so much easier telling the Xbox which game to play & loading instantly without having to swap about with discs.

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It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Edited By: teh arn on Jan 06, 2015 00:02
#2
I'm sure that this will work itself out in the end - after all, the public reaction would destroy them (Microsoft and Ubisoft both) if it didn't - but all the same it's somewhat worrying for those impacted.
#3
I checked my digital copy about an hour and a half ago and it was working fine then. I'll have another look in the morning to see if it's still working.
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teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.
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deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.
Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.
Occasionally you'll find a time when there's a price differential in favour of digital purchases, even taking into account resale value, but more convincing arguments IMO would be the immediacy of access (for those with a good enough internet connection) and convenience, especially for portable consoles.

Those aren't enough to sway me to preferring digital downloads as things stand, though - I'm with you on going with a physical release wherever possible, save for the occasional sale bargain.
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deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

I'd prefer an entire digital library & would happily convert my physical to digital if the option ever became available. I never sell games & find it a pain swapping discs, it's so much easier telling the Xbox which game to play & loading instantly without having to swap about with discs.
#7
ChrisUK
deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

I'd prefer an entire digital library & would happily convert my physical to digital if the option ever became available. I never sell games & find it a pain swapping discs, it's so much easier telling the Xbox which game to play & loading instantly without having to swap about with discs.

Sure. If you never sell games then I agree that digital is the way to go. No list or damaged discs and hopefully cheaper in the future. It's a no brainer for you.
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teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.


Or if you game share with another ps4
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deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

Yep that's why it's only worth buying if it's significantly cheaper.
I don't understand people that buy the digital version because it's £1 cheaper than the physical copy. If you but it at that price it's always going to cost you that price.

Whereas with a physical copy it might cost you £1 more, buy could be traded in to get a decent amount back.
1 Like #10
Never buy digitally what you can buy physically, I can't even comprehend why anyone would buy something like that, they are almost always the same or more expensive than the physical one, you can't sell them on, you can't gift them to people, you can't keep them and see if their value increases. Why do people do it?

only buy digital if they are little independent games not available any other way, I don't mind that a few quid on a download but anything over a tenner needs serious consideration imo.
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Error440
Never buy digitally what you can buy physically, I can't even comprehend why anyone would buy something like that, they are almost always the same or more expensive than the physical one, you can't sell them on, you can't gift them to people, you can't keep them and see if their value increases. Why do people do it?

only buy digital if they are little independent games not available any other way, I don't mind that a few quid on a download but anything over a tenner needs serious consideration imo.

Only thing i can think of is lazyness

the lure of not having to get up eject a disk and put in another can be enough for some people
#12
I only own a couple of digital games on XB1: AC: Black Flag and Titanfall+all DLC. Black flag is about £7 digital and still well over £15 physical and by the time I actually play it and finish with it, it will be worth pennies. Titanfall was a black Friday deal with gold, the DLC is easily worth £5 alone, so a fiver for another game I'm unlikely to sell on is grand with me.

If the digital version is vastly cheaper than the physical and if I'm unlikely to sell, then that's fine with me :) I have a cupboard filled with X360 games that I'll probably never shift, or at least, will never see a fraction of the value they cost me.
#13
Havince
Error440
Never buy digitally what you can buy physically, I can't even comprehend why anyone would buy something like that, they are almost always the same or more expensive than the physical one, you can't sell them on, you can't gift them to people, you can't keep them and see if their value increases. Why do people do it?

only buy digital if they are little independent games not available any other way, I don't mind that a few quid on a download but anything over a tenner needs serious consideration imo.

Only thing i can think of is lazyness

the lure of not having to get up eject a disk and put in another can be enough for some people

I no longer buy compact discs or tv / movies in hard copy if it can be helped, I look forward to doing the same with my game collection. I have no interest in trading in /swapping and its convenient to have your whole game collection on a portable hard drive or core machine. Easy to move about and doesnt cause much clutter.

Just spent £500 or so on machine , controllers, hesdset, games so saving a fiver here or their buy buying hard copy doesnt really come into it for me.
#14
personally I've never understood digital downloads yes if they were at least half the price or on a offer but having just got a xbox one the only thing I've bought digitally was outlast (which is digital only) and some dead rising 3 dlc which again was digital only and on offer and it's just so easy to keep checking eBay for cheapy preowned sometimes new physical copys of games still cheaper than digital prices finally tho the game sharing idea can make it worthwhile splitting the cost etc.
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ChrisUK
deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

I'd prefer an entire digital library & would happily convert my physical to digital if the option ever became available. I never sell games & find it a pain swapping discs, it's so much easier telling the Xbox which game to play & loading instantly without having to swap about with discs.

Same for me, plus you can buy xbox cards cheaper than face value, added to game sharing which splits the cost in half.
#16
TheMetalMan
ChrisUK
deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

I'd prefer an entire digital library & would happily convert my physical to digital if the option ever became available. I never sell games & find it a pain swapping discs, it's so much easier telling the Xbox which game to play & loading instantly without having to swap about with discs.

Same for me, plus you can buy xbox cards cheaper than face value, added to game sharing which splits the cost in half.

Is it easy/legal to game share? If so maybe we could start a game share thread?
#17
I've never looked into game sharing.

Do you have to share a gamerscore/Xbox ID for this to work ?
#18
deeky
TheMetalMan
ChrisUK
deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.
I'd prefer an entire digital library & would happily convert my physical to digital if the option ever became available. I never sell games & find it a pain swapping discs, it's so much easier telling the Xbox which game to play & loading instantly without having to swap about with discs.

Same for me, plus you can buy xbox cards cheaper than face value, added to game sharing which splits the cost in half.


Is it easy/legal to game share? If so maybe we could start a game share thread?

Not sure on the legalities, you're bsically using the xbox's as if they're both in the same home and microsoft tell you how to do this on their own site. It's easy to set up but you need to be able to trust the person you're sharing with. I'm currently doing it with my brother and wouldn't consider doing it with a random over the internet.
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TheMetalMan
t's easy to set up but you need to be able to trust the person you're sharing with. I'm currently doing it with my brother and wouldn't consider doing it with a random over the internet.

There are plenty here I would trust to share with if it was easy enough. Look at the Amazon Prime thread.

EDIT: It looks like they need your account details which would give them access to your CC details. Not so sure now X)

Edited By: deeky on Jan 06, 2015 09:50
#20
ChrisUK
I've never looked into game sharing.

Do you have to share a gamerscore/Xbox ID for this to work ?
Nope you both keep your own xbox ID. You can even both play the same game online with each other.

1. Log into your friends xbox and set their xbox to your home xbox.
2. Get your friend to log into your xbox and set it as their home xbox.
3. Any games your friend has bought will now be available for you to download.
#21
deeky
TheMetalMan
t's easy to set up but you need to be able to trust the person you're sharing with. I'm currently doing it with my brother and wouldn't consider doing it with a random over the internet.

There are plenty here I would trust to share with if it was easy enough. Look at the Amazon Prime thread.
That's your call :)
1 Like #22
I personally resell all my games so buying digital is not really a good option for me.

I honestly don't believe the small discount offeredis a good enough incentive for people to go all digital at the moment. A normal figure would be that I get a new release for £40 and often I can resell for £30/£35 a few weeks later as I never return to SP games. The only games I keep are Halo and Destiny.

Edited By: joshp on Jan 06, 2015 10:05
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I only ever buy digital games if they are ridiculous price £3/4 each.

Its a joke that in this age they charge £39.99 for a digital product.

Im the same with music all my downloaded music is from google play and have cost £1.99 each album max
#24
so for game sharing your basically sharing your gamertags to each login on opposite xboxs? but am I right in saying you only login on their gamertag to dl the game they already have then log back in on yours to play it and save etc
#25
from what I can tell you only login once to the other console and set it as your home xbox then can lock your account down so they cant do anything with your account, and do the opposite on the other console, then anything either of you purchase is available on the other console because of the home xbox setting and the account you are using, if that makes sense?
#26
Managers
I game share with my friend and it works very well.
I can play his digital copy's and he can play mine.

Once set up you are only using your gamer tag and not your friends, you will also get the achievements.
I have also locked down my credit card details so no purchases can be made by him.

At first it was a bit confusing to set up but we got there in the end,
your friend has to log into your x box and make it not his home and vice versa.
at first we had it the wrong way round but it was quite quick to figure out our mistake.


Does sound very tempting to set up with a mate hmm what about if one of you has gold and other doesn't surely sharing xboxs you don't both get gold?
#27
deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.


Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

Totally agree. One of the problems (on PS3) with last gen was that some games used the bluray drive almost constantly whilst you were playing which added to wear n' tear on the drive (I've had BD drive failures).

With the current gen (certainly on PS4) there is an initial read on the BD (just to ensure you have it) and then the game reads from the HDD. Much much better.
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also, what if the external drive you have all these digital games on breaks? you have lost £100s of pounds of content and would have then buy a new drive and re-download it all again wouldnt you
#29
Havince
also, what if the external drive you have all these digital games on breaks? you have lost £100s of pounds of content and would have then buy a new drive and re-download it all again wouldnt you

I don't know about losing money; you'd probably only just lose your saves.
Which wouldn't matter if there were backups.



Edited By: teh arn on Jan 06, 2015 12:42
1 Like #30
deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

I always end up playing old games, and it saves space having them digitally (50+ games on Steam, and even that's not a lot).
#31
Initially people had the same view of Steam and digital PC games, complained about the price vs retail.. Now look at that area of the industry, it’s purely digital.

Personally – I prefer digital, I have several digital Xbox One games but only when I can source cheap Xbox Live credit to bring in the price of the game more with retail or below.

It’ll take some time in the same way Steam did, I don’t think this generation is the one where digital distribution starts to overshadow retail.. Next generation digital will play a much larger role, particularly as digital sales become more common place.
#32
ed1980
I only ever buy digital games if they are ridiculous price £3/4 each.

Its a joke that in this age they charge £39.99 for a digital product.

Im the same with music all my downloaded music is from google play and have cost £1.99 each album max

why download music? Spotify is free only music I download now is tracks from games that are not on spotify. Still love my dvds and blurays tho just as I love my cartridges and game discs
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deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.
Totally agree. One of the problems (on PS3) with last gen was that some games used the bluray drive almost constantly whilst you were playing which added to wear n' tear on the drive (I've had BD drive failures).

With the current gen (certainly on PS4) there is an initial read on the BD (just to ensure you have it) and then the game reads from the HDD. Much much better.

until your hdd drops dead and you lose everything or becomes corrupted, I've never had a laser fail on anything other then the ps1, on a pc you make back ups of everything, with digital downloads you are relying on them keeping it all online should your console fail so you can download it all again
#34
Havince
also, what if the external drive you have all these digital games on breaks? you have lost £100s of pounds of content and would have then buy a new drive and re-download it all again wouldnt you
When you purchase a digital game, your purchase is linked to your account. If a hard drive fails or something happens to your machine, you simply re-download them again, as your account already has a record that you own that game
#35
does DLC work on this method as well? for example if one person bought the seasons pass for advanced warfare, do both get it?

Cheers
#36
Error440
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deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.
Totally agree. One of the problems (on PS3) with last gen was that some games used the bluray drive almost constantly whilst you were playing which added to wear n' tear on the drive (I've had BD drive failures).

With the current gen (certainly on PS4) there is an initial read on the BD (just to ensure you have it) and then the game reads from the HDD. Much much better.

until your hdd drops dead and you lose everything or becomes corrupted, I've never had a laser fail on anything other then the ps1, on a pc you make back ups of everything, with digital downloads you are relying on them keeping it all online should your console fail so you can download it all again
That is going to be a major headache - I've had to do a factory reset on my xbox one which wipes all the installed games. If this happens and the games are no longer available for download, you've lost your game unless you can back games up on the "cloud". If the games are still available to download its not such a problem but its still a pain to re-download them all again...


Edited By: gari189 on Jan 06, 2015 13:43
#37
Cameron583
deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.

I always end up playing old games, and it saves space having them digitally (50+ games on Steam, and even that's not a lot).

It's different though; it was a lot harder to sell on PC games if the keys had been used.
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townenc
does DLC work on this method as well? for example if one person bought the seasons pass for advanced warfare, do both get it?

Cheers

Of course....

I will link here again as it's a good read.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/game-sharing-on-xbox-one.1904544/
#39
gari189
Error440
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deeky
teh arn
It's only worth choosing digital over physical if there is a significant price difference between the two e.g. the digital version is 25% of the cost of a physical one etc.

Even then a portion of the cost of a disc can be recovered by selling on. I can't ever see the benefit of buying digital over physical.
Totally agree. One of the problems (on PS3) with last gen was that some games used the bluray drive almost constantly whilst you were playing which added to wear n' tear on the drive (I've had BD drive failures).

With the current gen (certainly on PS4) there is an initial read on the BD (just to ensure you have it) and then the game reads from the HDD. Much much better.

until your hdd drops dead and you lose everything or becomes corrupted, I've never had a laser fail on anything other then the ps1, on a pc you make back ups of everything, with digital downloads you are relying on them keeping it all online should your console fail so you can download it all again
That is going to be a major headache - I've had to do a factory reset on my xbox one which wipes all the installed games. If this happens and the games are no longer available for download, you've lost your game unless you can back games up on the "cloud"

don't trust clouds, its all a excellent way to get people to buy the same games over and over, for example you buy nu halo on xbox one, years later the service is cut off for that as xbox x2 is out, then your xbox one dies, you can't download it again and it doesn't work on xbox x2 so you have to wait for the hyper hd remake and buy that on your xbox x2 to play it again. Lost to the ether forever more, endlessly repeating the same purchase.

Altho I bet your xbox one will be completely unplayable when they shut down xbox live for it, online required why thats just the electronic version of the colour changing spot on the palm of the hand, its time to die now.
1 Like #40
Someone should post the device sharing info in misc, its a great piece of info and great for good friends / family etc.

I would but heading back to work.

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