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Flamedeer 2014 .. That was the Competition that was

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So it's all over for another year .. thoughts ? Can improvements be made to how it's run or do you enjoy the whack-a-mole aspect of deer hunting ? All thoughts and opinions are welcome .. Read More
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2y, 7m agoPosted 2 years, 7 months ago
So it's all over for another year .. thoughts ?

Can improvements be made to how it's run or do you enjoy the whack-a-mole aspect of deer hunting ?

All thoughts and opinions are welcome ..
HankHandsome Avatar
2y, 7m agoPosted 2 years, 7 months ago
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HankHandsome
Obviously I had some "issues" with the competition itself and subsequently revealed how I was collecting deer. This was apparently a direct contradiction of the rules of the competition and i was subsequently disqualified, but it was entirely my choice to do so because I didn't really want to have any part of it any more.

I did manage to record what I was doing on video and I'd certainly be interested to read your opinions as to whether or not it was "cheating" or "automation" or whether or not I gained any kind of unfair advantage.

All opinions are welcome, even those of you who want to be horrible :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-HJ3t2fmBY

transit
Did you win a gold in the end Hank?

No such luck :)

Don't think you've cheated tbh, you've used your initiative , collected umpteen flamedeer but still came away like most of us with nothing.
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HankHandsome
Bingohomer
I don't think it really reduced the availability for others - You see the site can choose to release as many White & Silver flamedeer as they like, they could have released 1 million+ of them, ultimately it's the gold ones that count and I guess what we have seen is that even though Hank was hoarding loads of them, it still didn't land him any of the gold deer.

That for me is the let down of this comp - there are only so many prizes but the way the gold deer are released and awarded, it doesn't matter whether you have contributed to the site since it started or literally just signed up 20 mins before the comp - finding a gold is just pure luck and who ever clicks quickest off some of the social media links, which is absolute pure pot luck based on a number of factors.

I think if the site continues with flamedeer, they need to find a much better way of stacking the odds in favour of those that make it the site what it is. There should be a way of giving certain groups of members an increased % chance of winning a gold. I know this year that they introduced 3 unique prize catergories, that only considered certain badges, for me there should have been more prizes in these categories to reward the loyalist members and better use of the value of the other prizes, that way there could have been a lot more of them them but lower value so that more members could feel like they were in a comp and winning e.g. they could have dropped say a Wii U and put in more M&S vouchers or iTunes/Starbucks. Also on the vouchers, it might be better to award a bit more variety or a voucher that could be used across a number of stores, I know a lot of people either don't have or use iTunes and don't like coffee or use alternative outlets to Starbucks.

I think the fact you had to click on the flamedeer this year was an improvement, as you couldn't just open a thousand tabs and auto collect them, so this did help prevent and make people who did open multiple tabs still have to work to an extent to get their deer.

Personally I do enjoy the flamedeer comp and with a few more tweaks and maybe a member forum being put together to feed into the process for next year, it could be even greater and maybe fairer/rewarding to all members.

It was suggested on one of the threads that a tiered prizing system be introduced. I think, bearing in mind how these sites are likely coded, it would be the best possible way of actually making it work.

The tiers would be based on how long you've been here and what you've contributed. If you've been here less than 6 months, you can only qualify for vouchers, as an example. The prize levels then subsequently increase for the length of time you've been here and the amount of deals you've contributed.

So if you've been here, say, 5 years plus and you've contributed, say, 100 deals minimum, then you're eligible for the "grand" prize of the iPhone 6.

Something like that would be much fairer than the current whack-a-mole model that's employed.

And as far as combating browser extensions, if they can introduce flood control for sending personal messages, surely it wouldn't be too much of a leap to introduce some form of flood control for opening large numbers of multiple links in a short space of time ?

I disagree. I also disagree with the ugly side of this sites liberal intelligentsia too and just because they are regulars they should get more. Who actually is more valuable to HUKD? Cos believe it or not HUKD aren't in this to give you and me great deals. They are making money out of it. Yes it's a fantastic resource and I wish I had thought of it and my hat is raised to the HUKD management and staff for this site. So is the person who posts 100 deals and never clicks on another deal link (no I don't believe such an individual exists either) more valuable than the person who never posts a deal and clicks through to hundreds of thousands of deals? I dunno but I suspect the click throughs are what funds this site.

There are members in this thread who think they have more right to tell others to go away. They think they are "worth more" to HUKD and that they make this site what it is. I got news for you. You don't you just make misc much less than it could be and carry on and you will kill it. Trust me HUKD will not be very happy with you if that happens.

Anyway I will leave you to your misc as to be honest it's not an inclusive community it's a bit seedy and clique.

PS I have no idea who Deeky is and he may be a great guy but after 24?,??? whatever posts he still hasn't been made VIP I would be asking yourselves why and taking a good luck in the mirror. You probably wont though as I guess you have already and don't like what you see so you stopped looking a while ago.

Have fun everyone. and Hank I don't think ultimately it was what the HUKD management envisaged when they said scripting but I expect you surprised them and they may well do as you suggest and find a way to stop that next year. Using a browser plugin could be construed as automation. I think you did yourself a disservice by disqualifying yourself. You were only doing what a lot of us were doing manually you just took it to it's ultimate end. But then it doesn't matter what any of us think it's what the people running the comp think and they haven't said anything.
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I honestly can not explain my happiness at this news, When my boy was born 4 years ago I remember holding him in my arms as we decided on a name for him and a tear dripped down the left hand side of my face with happiness.

I swear to god two have just dripped, I am so happy :)
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Can all the newbs please now vacate misc, your pass has expired :{
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Cheater Cheater Pumpkin Eater

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Did you win a gold in the end Hank?
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Winners will be announced shortly (_;)
I would love to see the times too. See when the Golden bearded was won :{
#3
did you get that video up?
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Obviously I had some "issues" with the competition itself and subsequently revealed how I was collecting deer. This was apparently a direct contradiction of the rules of the competition and i was subsequently disqualified, but it was entirely my choice to do so because I didn't really want to have any part of it any more.

I did manage to record what I was doing on video and I'd certainly be interested to read your opinions as to whether or not it was "cheating" or "automation" or whether or not I gained any kind of unfair advantage.

All opinions are welcome, even those of you who want to be horrible :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-HJ3t2fmBY

transit
Did you win a gold in the end Hank?

No such luck :)

Edited By: HankHandsome on Dec 19, 2014 19:05
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Also bear in mind that this thread, as well as me, could well be summarily removed from HUKD I suppose :)
[HUKD Deal Editor] 8 Likes #6
I honestly can not explain my happiness at this news, When my boy was born 4 years ago I remember holding him in my arms as we decided on a name for him and a tear dripped down the left hand side of my face with happiness.

I swear to god two have just dripped, I am so happy :)
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Weirdo :)
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HankHandsome
Obviously I had some "issues" with the competition itself and subsequently revealed how I was collecting deer. This was apparently a direct contradiction of the rules of the competition and i was subsequently disqualified, but it was entirely my choice to do so because I didn't really want to have any part of it any more.

I did manage to record what I was doing on video and I'd certainly be interested to read your opinions as to whether or not it was "cheating" or "automation" or whether or not I gained any kind of unfair advantage.

All opinions are welcome, even those of you who want to be horrible :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-HJ3t2fmBY

transit
Did you win a gold in the end Hank?

No such luck :)

Don't think you've cheated tbh, you've used your initiative , collected umpteen flamedeer but still came away like most of us with nothing.
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transit
HankHandsome
Obviously I had some "issues" with the competition itself and subsequently revealed how I was collecting deer. This was apparently a direct contradiction of the rules of the competition and i was subsequently disqualified, but it was entirely my choice to do so because I didn't really want to have any part of it any more.

I did manage to record what I was doing on video and I'd certainly be interested to read your opinions as to whether or not it was "cheating" or "automation" or whether or not I gained any kind of unfair advantage.

All opinions are welcome, even those of you who want to be horrible :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-HJ3t2fmBY

transit
Did you win a gold in the end Hank?

No such luck :)

Don't think you've cheated tbh, you've used your initiative , collected umpteen flamedeer but still came away like most of us with nothing.

Thanks for that :)
#10
Better prizes, rather then very old tech would be nice.

Not sure what I would have done had I won an Xbox 360.
1 Like #11
Cheat! Definitely cheating
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Can all the newbs please now vacate misc, your pass has expired :{
#13
kingchris
Better prizes, rather then very old tech would be nice.

Not sure what I would have done had I won an Xbox 360.

Give it to me for xmas
[HUKD Deal Editor]#14
markq
Can all the newbs please now vacate misc, your pass has expired :{

Apologies :( see you next year.
#15
OMG Hank LOL that was hilarious to watch. Personally I don't think it was cheating, obviously there is the option of clicking one by one and then there is what you did which is opening up the links in one go and going through them quicker. How is that cheating? Maybe HUKD should come up with a different format or different ways that the deers appear.
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I use the hotukdeals droid app and last year I could collect them using this app. This year they somehow stopped this from happening so I haven't bothered! To be honest I was a little fed up with the constant flamedeer posts!
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Cheater Cheater Pumpkin Eater

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Can't wait to see the winners for the big prizes hopefully it is members that have posted deals and pillars of the community and not ghosts with empty profiles .
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you're my hero hank LOL
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Lexa
OMG Hank LOL that was hilarious to watch. Personally I don't think it was cheating, obviously there is the option of clicking one by one and then there is what you did which is opening up the links in one go and going through them quicker. How is that cheating? Maybe HUKD should come up with a different format or different ways that the deers appear.

A few people posted the exact same method in one of the 'official' threads about going in to chrome and holding down the CTRL key and clicking on to each link in succession to open it in a new tab and then cycling through each tab in turn looking for deer.

The only difference, of course, being that i used a freely available browser extension to do it.

Obviously it's HUKD's competition and they can interpret the rules however they see fit, but i can't see how there's any real "automation" in what i did. They could possibly argue that it's a script, since it's a browser plug-in, but there's certainly nothing automatic about what i did.
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Here's a random thought - maybe doing what i've done will give HUKD something to think about and to re-work the competition to make it fairer on all and not, as i said on another thread, the equivalent of throwing a pound coin into a room full of 4,000 people and saying "first one who gets it can keep it".
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HankHandsome
Also bear in mind that this thread, as well as me, could well be summarily removed from HUKD I suppose :)

I hope not. You've done nothing wrong imo.

If i had tried that with my computer it would have probably froze and shut itself down X)
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Dontforg3t
HankHandsome
Also bear in mind that this thread, as well as me, could well be summarily removed from HUKD I suppose :)

I hope not. You've done nothing wrong imo.

If i had tried that with my computer it would have probably froze and shut itself down X)

.. and then blown up ;)
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Glad it's over, maybe now people will stop posting Sherlock Holmes on Google play

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#25
I was expecting some kind of hack, instead of merely using the browser's tools. The disqualification seems a little unfair, especially as this method didn't attract any gold.
#26
Its something I can't do on my tablet thus is an unfair advantage
#27
HankHandsome
Dontforg3t
HankHandsome
Also bear in mind that this thread, as well as me, could well be summarily removed from HUKD I suppose :)

I hope not. You've done nothing wrong imo.

If i had tried that with my computer it would have probably froze and shut itself down X)

.. and then blown up ;)

I don't think I'd have had the patience to do that! Fair play!
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Error440
Its something I can't do on my tablet thus is an unfair advantage
some of us work and cant search for them all day


oh and... flamedeer comp has always been terrible

Edited By: brilly on Dec 19, 2014 19:36
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Yes i think this was much fairer!

http://i.imgur.com/5nH9x.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/10yfasw.gif

Edited By: haritori on Dec 19, 2014 19:42
#30
have to nick off for a bit but I'll keep an eye on the thread and reply later :)
#31
Tbh I dont think it was cheating on Hank's part. He still had to manually collect the deer which is the aim.

I wish trading was removed and more gold were available.
#32
Really it's over it was only on for a week it's normally on for 2
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Not too sure if it should be classed as cheating but don't you think that by you using your method to claim hundreds of them meant that others missed out? I'm assuming each time there were flamedeer flashing up that only certain amounts at a time were allocated to each page and that's why so many would end up getting "this batch has all gone" which may not have happened if you hadn't got to them all first.

Apart from that, it was a bit obvious that some people would have advantages over others. Not everyone could access them from their phones, not everyone knew they could view the facebook page, not everyone knew about twitter, google+ etc and slower broadband speeds in certain parts of the country would have affected some too.

I'd have liked a jingly noise alert for them though so I could at least have been able to grab a cuppa without fearing I'd missed one :D
#34
I spend a lot of my time on HUKD and I only managed to get 2 deer. :( not sure if I don't get how to catch them or if I need to spend more time on tr site
#35
HeHateMe
Tbh I dont think it was cheating on Hank's part. He still had to manually collect the deer which is the aim.

I wish trading was removed and more gold were available.

i agree...
and to ask - did someone catch a deer over the last 5 mins of the comp?
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I think that you deserve 10 out of 10 for innovation and 0 out of 10 for your choice of music whilst hunting. What on earth were you listening to !! :D
#37
viggilante
HeHateMe
Tbh I dont think it was cheating on Hank's part. He still had to manually collect the deer which is the aim.

I wish trading was removed and more gold were available.

i agree...
and to ask - did someone catch a deer over the last 5 mins of the comp?

No I didn't ... but that was pretty much par for the course throughout the comp :)
#38
gerrymig
I think that you deserve 10 out of 10 for innovation and 0 out of 10 for your choice of music whilst hunting. What on earth were you listening to !! :D

hehe, i was thinking the same...:)
#39
Here comes my favourite part of the Flamedeer comp. There's going to be so many "I should have won, it's a fix!" comments coming!
#40
transit
HankHandsome
Obviously I had some "issues" with the competition itself and subsequently revealed how I was collecting deer. This was apparently a direct contradiction of the rules of the competition and i was subsequently disqualified, but it was entirely my choice to do so because I didn't really want to have any part of it any more.

I did manage to record what I was doing on video and I'd certainly be interested to read your opinions as to whether or not it was "cheating" or "automation" or whether or not I gained any kind of unfair advantage.

All opinions are welcome, even those of you who want to be horrible :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-HJ3t2fmBY

transit
Did you win a gold in the end Hank?

No such luck :)

Don't think you've cheated tbh, you've used your initiative , collected umpteen flamedeer but still came away like most of us with nothing.

Yep. Looks to me like using your noggin - you've just made it a bit easier for you to do it, you can't sway the outcome in your favour doing that. No automation involved, just heavy searching!

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