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I'm starting this discussion after taking a bit of a flaming on a deals thread. My family are regular contributors to our local foodbank. I'm appalled that people in a wealthy country cannot afford … Read More
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2y, 5m agoPosted 2 years, 5 months ago
I'm starting this discussion after taking a bit of a flaming on a deals thread.
My family are regular contributors to our local foodbank. I'm appalled that people in a wealthy country cannot afford to eat. I've been quite taken aback by some of the negative attitudes towards the people who are resorting to using them. What's the HUKD concensus?
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Yes there are a lot of families who are struggling but then there are also a lot of families who are 'struggling' Its very easy to quickly learn to live to your means when you get a promotion or a pay rise but going the other way os not so easy.

the 1st lot i have sympathy for the ones who 'struggle' whine that they are skint but continue to run their car, continue their subscription with Sky, have a mobile phone contract, continue to smoke etc. There are a lot of things that people do not consider to be luxuries any more and that is where a lot of people could save money. Yes many will claim they NEED their car for work but do they really or is it just easier?

I myself am looking at my finances and considered myself to be doing ok, and being that i'm on about £28k a year and support my wife and 10 year old, I thought i should be doing a lot better than i actually am. Its easy to ignore the odd % rise here and there for things but they all mount up and when you only get a 1% pay increase every other year, you soon lose track.

The biggest group of people who i feel sorry for are those 1st time buyer who purchased a house in the last 3-5 years, those interest rates are going to go up at some point. There are also plenty of people who have 40 year mortgages.
1 Like #2
food banks are good if they are used genuinely and benefit money that could be used to buy food is not spent on drugs etc i believe that they are an amazing help to people but only if they are distributed to the people that really need them. not like some councils that basically anybody can used aslong as they claim some benefit. there have been example locally that a few people spent their benefit money on drugs and gambling then had no money for food and expected the foodbank to just hand them it on a plate even though they had never even looked for a job in their lives
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I find the referral causes published by The Trussell Trust devastating reading. Particularly the domestic violence. I'm not in the business of judging people. We all need to eat. Yes, some people have made some bad life choices, but what should we do? Starve them?

Edited By: eklynne on Dec 19, 2014 00:23
#4
I have to agree with the above comments.

There are 2 types of people in need/benefit claimants. Watching Benefits Britain: Life on the Dole on Channel 4 Weds night just proves the fact.

One a mother of god knows how many kids, father not seen but supposedly gives some support, is a month behind in rent, wants a bigger "benefit house" gets several hundred a week in benefits, has a mpv type car to use yet goes to a store and spends £75 on kids toys etc just because it's Christmas then whilst wrapping all the pressies (piles for each kid) says she hasn't got enough pressies for all.

Two drug addicts spending most of their benefit on drugs/alcohol, go skip diving for food and toys to sell on then go to a food bank to collect £50 worth of food whilst probably still trying to shoplift/steal to feed their habit.

I'm all for giving the right benefit to the right people but sometimes we need to get this country fixed to end the wastage.

Drug addicts/alcohol/smoking are all self inflicted. Housing benefit should be paid direct to landlord/utilities. JSA is for seeking a job. Any money to provide food should be given in food stamps/coupons that can only be used to buy food.

I remember standing in a queue at Sainsburys and a family who had been given asylum had been given food stamps (or whatever they're called) and they spent £120 on telephone cards and other stuff but very little food.

Yes in this current climate food banks are needed for the right people. I won't go I'm too proud and capable of surviving by cooking in bulk etc (not buying all prepacked/prepared foods) and I don't go spending money I haven't got - just wish others still had pride rather than being selfish scrounges abusing the system.
1 Like #5
On another note related to food banks. Just give a thought to the thousands of children who won't get a single present for Christmas due to family finances bad choices etc. in sheffield the local radio has been collecting donated presents just to give to the kids that otherwise wouldn't get one
#6
barrel24
On another note related to food banks. Just give a thought to the thousands of children who won't get a single present for Christmas due to family finances bad choices etc. in sheffield the local radio has been collecting donated presents just to give to the kids that otherwise wouldn't get one
That was what spurred my flaming, I said I was handing in a Connect 4 to my foodbank's toy drive.
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I am on a low income and i'm too proud to use a food bank. I don't drink often and I don't smoke or take drugs. I am very careful with my money and make sure I get my food shopping as cheap as possible by going to aldi, asda and tesco each week. I have managed to make sure I can afford my bills and even had a little spare to put a food parcel together for a family. Also any of the 4p toys that i've managed to find at tesco i've bought and donated to other families who are struggling.
#8
Where I live there's currently a help the homeless drive, every Wednesday night however most of the people going aren't desperate or in need there just going for free stuff. It's annoying, I think food banks are a good thing in a time of need but not just because you've spent you're money on booze or drugs.
#9
is that in blackburn ?
seedbot
Where I live there's currently a help the homeless drive, every Wednesday night however most of the people going aren't desperate or in need there just going for free stuff. It's annoying, I think food banks are a good thing in a time of need but not just because you've spent you're money on booze or drugs.

I keep wanting to go along to help but something always gets in the way.

Also been trying to find somewhere thats needs help on christmas day to help the homeless but had no luck so far
#10
krystaltips1
is that in blackburn ?
seedbot
Where I live there's currently a help the homeless drive, every Wednesday night however most of the people going aren't desperate or in need there just going for free stuff. It's annoying, I think food banks are a good thing in a time of need but not just because you've spent you're money on booze or drugs.

I keep wanting to go along to help but something always gets in the way.

Also been trying to find somewhere thats needs help on christmas day to help the homeless but had no luck so far
yes it's in Blackburn.

Edited By: seedbot on Dec 19, 2014 01:28
#11
Foodbanks, however noble a cause, are open to abuse. I refuse to believe that there is such a (genuine) high demand for them. Those who are in genuine need of them as a means to feed themselves I sincerely feel for, and it is a national disgrace that they should find themselves in such a position and to that degree I agree with the OP however, I am not convinced that all who use them need to use them.

Edited By: RossD89 on Dec 19, 2014 01:32
#12
I'm in Burnley and don't drive. I'm also new to the area so without a lift I can't get there unfortunately. I will get there one day!! Such a shame so many people are struggling. Wish I could do more.

I was saying earlier that the Trafford Centre gives everyone free parking all year round but what if they asked for a £1 donation for parking? They could give it to a local charity and it'd help so much and I doubt anyone would begrudge paying £1 for all day parking cos it'd still be cheaper than anywhere else.
#13
krystaltips1
I'm in Burnley and don't drive. I'm also new to the area so without a lift I can't get there unfortunately. I will get there one day!! Such a shame so many people are struggling. Wish I could do more.

I was saying earlier that the Trafford Centre gives everyone free parking all year round but what if they asked for a £1 donation for parking? They could give it to a local charity and it'd help so much and I doubt anyone would begrudge paying £1 for all day parking cos it'd still be cheaper than anywhere else.

Maybe I could show you around? X)

I'm unfortunate enough to live in Burnley.

Small world.


Edited By: RossD89 on Dec 19, 2014 01:44
1 Like #14
RossD89
krystaltips1
I'm in Burnley and don't drive. I'm also new to the area so without a lift I can't get there unfortunately. I will get there one day!! Such a shame so many people are struggling. Wish I could do more.

I was saying earlier that the Trafford Centre gives everyone free parking all year round but what if they asked for a £1 donation for parking? They could give it to a local charity and it'd help so much and I doubt anyone would begrudge paying £1 for all day parking cos it'd still be cheaper than anywhere else.

Maybe I could show you around? X)

I'm unfortunate enough to live in Burnley.

Small world.


Haha so YOU'RE the one that nicks all the bargains in Tesco before I get there then!!! Pistols at dawn!! Me and you outside maccy's at 9am hahaha

I'm doing alright it's just getting to different areas cos I'm right near town centre so had no need to yet so far
2 Likes #15
Are the people who say other people are using them to further their drug habits or pay for Sky aware you are only allowed to use the banks a limited number of times in a certain time period? It really wouldn't get you very far. It's not like anyone could regularly rely on them.
1 Like #16
krystaltips1
RossD89
krystaltips1
I'm in Burnley and don't drive. I'm also new to the area so without a lift I can't get there unfortunately. I will get there one day!! Such a shame so many people are struggling. Wish I could do more.

I was saying earlier that the Trafford Centre gives everyone free parking all year round but what if they asked for a £1 donation for parking? They could give it to a local charity and it'd help so much and I doubt anyone would begrudge paying £1 for all day parking cos it'd still be cheaper than anywhere else.

Maybe I could show you around? X)

I'm unfortunate enough to live in Burnley.

Small world.


Haha so YOU'RE the one that nicks all the bargains in Tesco before I get there then!!! Pistols at dawn!! Me and you outside maccy's at 9am hahaha

I'm doing alright it's just getting to different areas cos I'm right near town centre so had no need to yet so far

I camp outside Tesco waitingg for the newest deal to come through on HUKD. You mist have seen me. :p


Has nobody shown you where the bus station is? It's directly opposite Tesco... Right in the middle of town... X)

This conversation is veering way off topic.

Edited By: RossD89 on Dec 19, 2014 01:58
#17
moneysavingkitten
Are the people who say other people are using them to further their drug habits or pay for Sky aware you are only allowed to use the banks a limited number of times in a certain time period? It really wouldn't get you very far. It's not like anyone could regularly rely on them.
I don't think anyone's said that?
3 Likes #18
will be going shopping to ASDA in the morning to do our shop for the local food bank
#19
i am russian food bank survivor 2014. give to me pls
banned 1 Like #20
Food banks are a sad indictment of what Labour and the bankers did to this country, devoid of any morals they were out for themselves.

When it all went bad they ran with their pockets stuffed full and now are happy to watch the poor pick up the bill safe in the knowledge that this country likes to beat up on the poor.

Were any bankers jailed?
3 Likes #21
krystaltips1
I am on a low income and i'm too proud to use a food bank. I don't drink often and I don't smoke or take drugs. I am very careful with my money and make sure I get my food shopping as cheap as possible by going to aldi, asda and tesco each week. I have managed to make sure I can afford my bills and even had a little spare to put a food parcel together for a family. Also any of the 4p toys that i've managed to find at tesco i've bought and donated to other families who are struggling.

my granddad used to say its the poor who seem to have the bigger hearts, they may have less but they are the ones who want to give more. And remember that no matter how bad our situation is, somewhere in the world somebody is worse off than you. That is how we get through each day, its hard but with planning and some sacrifice we are able to help others who are even worse off than we are.
1 Like #22
philphil61
I have to agree with the above comments.

There are 2 types of people in need/benefit claimants. Watching Benefits Britain: Life on the Dole on Channel 4 Weds night just proves the fact.

If you believe that a TV program reflects reality then you are a moron.

RossD89
Foodbanks, however noble a cause, are open to abuse. I refuse to believe that there is such a (genuine) high demand for them. Those who are in genuine need of them as a means to feed themselves I sincerely feel for, and it is a national disgrace that they should find themselves in such a position and to that degree I agree with the OP however, I am not convinced that all who use them need to use them.

Every system to help someone is open to abuse, but the ones who benefit are greater than those cheats so.....

toshapetriji
Food banks are a sad indictment of what Labour and the bankers did to this country, devoid of any morals they were out for themselves.

When it all went bad they ran with their pockets stuffed full and now are happy to watch the poor pick up the bill safe in the knowledge that this country likes to beat up on the poor.

Were any bankers jailed?

Boring and all politicians are the same, no matter what colour party, but glad you could infect yet another thread with your ramblings.
#23
eklynne
I'm starting this discussion after taking a bit of a flaming on a deals thread.My family are regular contributors to our local foodbank. I'm appalled that people in a wealthy country cannot afford to eat. I've been quite taken aback by some of the negative attitudes towards the people who are resorting to using them. What's the HUKD concensus?

It's easier for people to moan and do nothing about anything than admit it is happening and it could in fact be their fault, people are weak and selfish in general and scared of the truth and some will never admit anything however wrong, sad but true....
1 Like #24
I collected Nd donated over 100 adverts calendars and selection packs to our local food bank this year. We aren't on a huge amount of money and sometimes we struggle but I make sure we budget. I was so disappointed to see someone in the food bank getting a huge food parcel as the previous night I had seen the same woman in town drinking all night :( made me so cross
banned 1 Like #25
I think food banks are used by European people who have entered.
I believe us brits wouldn't like to go to a food bank unless you have lost your job and have kids etc.
The single mums claim plenty of money from governments and smoke and gamble.
I know people won't like my comments.

Edited By: sofiasar on Dec 19, 2014 09:36
#26
If everyone did a little bit it would make a huge difference, however some people will take hand-outs just because its there, they have no morals.

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