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Football Manager now with added Brexit!

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And no, it doesn't make anything easier.
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4m, 1w agoPosted 4 months, 1 week ago
And no, it doesn't make anything easier.
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#1
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/18/brexit-is-simulated-in-football-manager-2017-and-its-going-to-ma/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/10/18/Brexit_FM17_Big_Changes1-large_trans++CVUZkBwq4EHTAw0uDHH_62yv4h7Y-dqhV4mSI8uj9gA.jpg

Quite a few interesting points raised by this. Kante couldn't have moved to the UK if Brexit had been in place and players from the EU needed a work permit.

That means Leicester almost certainly don't win the league.

Payet joining West Ham is another example.

Edited By: HotEnglishAndWelshDeals on Oct 18, 2016 13:29: s
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Stupid idea in my opinion given they have no way of knowing how brexit will look once final. May as well have put in random events such as nukes, war, kidnapping and terrorist attacks causing players or clubs to vanish completely...
#3
delusion
Stupid idea in my opinion given they have no way of knowing how brexit will look once final.

Kinda makes voting on it a bit stupid as well doesn't it?

As it is they're doing exactly what the government is - putting every possible Brexit outcome in and randomising it.
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Good marketing as I see FM trending on twitter and it's launching today, pretty fun game and things like this make it even better imo.

delusion
Stupid idea in my opinion given they have no way of knowing how brexit will look once final. May as well have put in random events such as nukes, war, kidnapping and terrorist attacks causing players or clubs to vanish completely...

Sounds like COD to me.
#5
delusion
Stupid idea in my opinion given they have no way of knowing how brexit will look once final. May as well have put in random events such as nukes, war, kidnapping and terrorist attacks causing players or clubs to vanish completely...

I have just read about this story myself. There are different degrees of 'Brexit' which will impact the game in different ways. It is randomly generated on each game. Some players/games may experience a 'soft Brexit' and little will change in the game, others will have a 'hard Brexit', meaning that foreign players might leave a club while they apply for a work visa.

It adds a new and unique experience to the game in my opinion.

Edited By: RossD89 on Oct 18, 2016 13:38
#6
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delusion
Stupid idea in my opinion given they have no way of knowing how brexit will look once final.
Kinda makes voting on it a bit stupid as well doesn't it?
As it is they're doing exactly what the government is - putting every possible Brexit outcome in and randomising it.

And I bet a patch not long after allows it to be switched off..

Not getting into a political discussion. Sorry.
#7
This is probably going to make more people think about the real world impact of Brexit than they did before the referendum and it's interesting to note that one of the outcomes makes it far harder for teams to hire foreign talent.

What's fascinating in that instance is that the football is one of the industries we lead the world in. The Premier League is the richest, most-watched, most competitive and most valuable football league in the world.....and Brexit provides and impediment to that.
#8
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/18/brexit-is-simulated-in-football-manager-2017-and-its-going-to-ma/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/10/18/Brexit_FM17_Big_Changes1-large_trans++CVUZkBwq4EHTAw0uDHH_62yv4h7Y-dqhV4mSI8uj9gA.jpg
Quite a few interesting points raised by this. Kante couldn't have moved to the UK if Brexit had been in place and players from the EU needed a work permit.
That means Leicester almost certainly don't win the league.
Payet joining West Ham is another example.

I like how you chose an image which reflects your opinion on the eventual outcome of the referendum and its shaping of the UK post-Brexit X)

Edited By: RossD89 on Oct 18, 2016 13:41
#9
RossD89
delusion
Stupid idea in my opinion given they have no way of knowing how brexit will look once final. May as well have put in random events such as nukes, war, kidnapping and terrorist attacks causing players or clubs to vanish completely...
I have just read about this story myself. There are different degrees of 'Brexit' which will impact the game in different ways. It is randomly generated on each game. Some players/games may experience a 'soft Brexit' and little will change in the game, others will have a 'hard Brexit', meaning that foreign players might leave a club while they apply for a work visa.
It adds a new and unique experience to the game in my opinion.

I'm sure some people might enjoy it. I can see it getting very annoying if one play through you can get a certain player and the next you can't. Particularly as the real facts get known. Anyway, this is them trying something new and they can trackback easily if it doesn't work.

Edited By: delusion on Oct 18, 2016 13:54: Typo
#10
RossD89
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/18/brexit-is-simulated-in-football-manager-2017-and-its-going-to-ma/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/10/18/Brexit_FM17_Big_Changes1-large_trans++CVUZkBwq4EHTAw0uDHH_62yv4h7Y-dqhV4mSI8uj9gA.jpg
Quite a few interesting points raised by this. Kante couldn't have moved to the UK if Brexit had been in place and players from the EU needed a work permit.
That means Leicester almost certainly don't win the league.
Payet joining West Ham is another example.
I like how you chose an image which reflects your opinion on the eventual outcome of the referendum and its shaping of the UK post-Brexit X)

It's the nuclear option but one that some on here clearly favour.
#11
Will look forward to the change, although those of us who have played a number of non-EU teams over the years know what to expect.
#12
drasim
Will look forward to the change, although those of us who have played a number of non-EU teams over the years know what to expect.

How if each playthrough is different? Will you need to relearn the transfer rules every time you start a new game? A feature like this is a bit of a gamble to me.
#13
delusion
drasim
Will look forward to the change, although those of us who have played a number of non-EU teams over the years know what to expect.
How if each playthrough is different? Will you need to relearn the transfer rules every time you start a new game? A feature like this is a bit of a gamble to me.

Lower league non-EU will be like the most challenging scenario out of those given by SI, so if you go in expecting that, it shouldn't be too difficult to play with.
#14
It's an excellent feature and FM has always been a brilliant game. It's part of the reason i don't play it anymore because it's such a time stealer.

I just think it's fascinating that a video game of all things will make people realise how Brexit could make a business in this country harder to grow successfully.
#15
drasim
delusion
drasim
Will look forward to the change, although those of us who have played a number of non-EU teams over the years know what to expect.
How if each playthrough is different? Will you need to relearn the transfer rules every time you start a new game? A feature like this is a bit of a gamble to me.
Lower league non-EU will be like the most challenging scenario out of those given by SI, so if you go in expecting that, it shouldn't be too difficult to play with.

Fair enough, I suppose it matters when the rules activate in game and how soon you know. I can see casual players just restarting repeatedly until they get the rules they want

Edit - just noted this for the article :

"In-game, players of Football Manager 2017 will be alerted at some point between two and 10 years in that trade negotiations have begun, and a year later a news bulletin will detail the extent of Brexit"

Edited By: delusion on Oct 18, 2016 14:10
#16
Whoop de woo players might have to fill in a couple of extra forms to get a work permit which 99.9% will be granted, Hardly restricts South American players does it?. I'm sure the players agents would sort their permits out. Also would having more home grown players be that bad?, I think it could be much better for English football.!.


Edited By: shauneco on Oct 18, 2016 14:32
#17
shauneco
Whoop de woo players might have to fill in a couple of extra forms to get a work permit which 99.9% will be granted, Hardly restricts South American players does it?. I'm sure the players agents would sort their permits out. Also would having more home grown players be that bad?, I think it could be much better for English players.!.

I'm going to take a wild guess that you don't know much about footballers work permit so I'll give you a chance to google it.

It's not just a case of filling in forms. There's a set of criteria and yes it does restrict some South American and non-EU players.
#18
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shauneco
Whoop de woo players might have to fill in a couple of extra forms to get a work permit which 99.9% will be granted, Hardly restricts South American players does it?. I'm sure the players agents would sort their permits out. Also would having more home grown players be that bad?, I think it could be much better for English players.!.
I'm going to take a wild guess that you don't know much about footballers work permit so I'll give you a chance to google it.
It's not just a case of filling in forms. There's a set of criteria and yes it does restrict some South American and non-EU players.

I know they have to meet a certain criteria, I can't see that being a bad thing though tbh, Too many foreign players as it is, I'm sure the rules will be a little more relaxed for EU players, If not then so what.
#19
shauneco
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shauneco
Whoop de woo players might have to fill in a couple of extra forms to get a work permit which 99.9% will be granted, Hardly restricts South American players does it?. I'm sure the players agents would sort their permits out. Also would having more home grown players be that bad?, I think it could be much better for English players.!.
I'm going to take a wild guess that you don't know much about footballers work permit so I'll give you a chance to google it.
It's not just a case of filling in forms. There's a set of criteria and yes it does restrict some South American and non-EU players.
I know they have to meet a certain criteria, I can't see that being a bad thing though tbh, Too many foreign players as it is, I'm sure the rules will be a little more relaxed for EU players, If not then so what.

Too many foreign players says the guy who supports a club owned by Americans with a Portuguese coach, a squad of international players, sponsors from around the globe and a fan base to match.
#20
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
shauneco
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
shauneco
Whoop de woo players might have to fill in a couple of extra forms to get a work permit which 99.9% will be granted, Hardly restricts South American players does it?. I'm sure the players agents would sort their permits out. Also would having more home grown players be that bad?, I think it could be much better for English players.!.
I'm going to take a wild guess that you don't know much about footballers work permit so I'll give you a chance to google it.
It's not just a case of filling in forms. There's a set of criteria and yes it does restrict some South American and non-EU players.
I know they have to meet a certain criteria, I can't see that being a bad thing though tbh, Too many foreign players as it is, I'm sure the rules will be a little more relaxed for EU players, If not then so what.
Too many foreign players says the guy who supports a club owned by Americans with a Portuguese coach, a squad of international players, sponsors from around the globe and a fan base to match.
And, That doesn't mean to say I like the fact, It's just real life in the Premiership, I think £89 million for a player is ridicoulous too, I don't condone any of it. I'd much rather the players be bought through the Academy, Like the class of 92, Rashford, Welbeck appeal to me much more, along with Lingard etc..

Work permit wouldn't impact the premiership much, they would have to be of little value to the economy, I think we can safely say that your average footballer is going to be contributing alot more than your average fruit picker.!.
#21
I think the premier league would be just fine if one season wonders like Kante and Payet wouldnt have been able to make it.

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