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Foreign Doctor who killed grandfather with overdose was reading medical manual on day of death

boothy Avatar
6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
Truly shocking incident

Surely there should be some safeguards to prevent this happening

A thorough review needed imo


Please keep posts on topic and avoid name calling,personal insults and baiting
boothy Avatar
6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
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#2
Last three times i went to see my GP he looked in the manual.
suspended#3
The Daily Mail must pay you for advertising or something? haha
[helper]#4
Why did I just know this was going to be a headline from the Daily Mail?

I think you are right Boothy - there should be safeguards to stop this happening. How about banning all doctors from looking at books or doing any further study after they qualify? Personally I wouldn't want a doctor who hadn't updated their skills in the last 20 years anywhere near me........
#5
sancho1983
Last three times i went to see my GP he looked in the manual.


my nurse does this aswell, they cant know everything all of the time so many new meds come out all the time
#6
gari189
Why did I just know this was going to be a headline from the Daily Mail?


Must be a collective consciousness thing cos I knew as well.....
[helper]#7
Shengis
Must be a collective consciousness thing cos I knew as well.....

Spooky isn't it.............

Maybe Admin is experimenting with mind control........
#8
[SIZE="4"]The inquest, being heard by Cambridgeshire North and East Coroner William Morris, is also examining the death of another of Dr Ubani's patients[/SIZE]
#9
Can't help but wonder if you'd have posted this if the doctor was white and British?
#10
Goonieman
Can't help but wonder if you'd have posted this if the doctor was white and British?


yes I would(see Madeline McCann thread):thumbsup:
banned#11
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#12
Goonieman
Can't help but wonder if you'd have posted this if the doctor was white and British?


Would (could) never have happened as such a creature no longer exists :lol:
#13
Shengis
Would (could) never have happened as such a creature no longer exists :lol:


Shipman was the last one I think:)
#14
In an hour of need I wouldnt question what country a doctor had trained in. Dont suppose those in Haiti care much right now

Any questionning at all should be around competency to perform the role
#15
My gosh, how shocking - he was reading a medical manual when he could have been reading the Daily Mail. How terrible.
#16
He killed someone through gross incompetence, bottom line.
#17
dcx_badass
My doctor always looks up the dosage in a book, better to be safe than sorry, my dads in the medical field and has to learn alot abotu the drugs he sells, he actually has exams about a new drug today, and he has no laods and that''s just for the 6 or so he sells, you can't really expect a doctor to know about the medicine for everything.


+1

my OH can only see his own gp as his medical records etc confuse and complicate
he can only have certain meds mixed with his usual meds etc etc

doesnt mean the other gps are useless just means it would take forever and a day to go through everything to prescribe him summit as they would need to read everything and double check etc etc
banned#18
dcx_badass
My doctor always looks up the dosage in a book, better to be safe than sorry, my dads in the medical field and has to learn alot abotu the drugs he sells, he actually has exams about a new drug today, and he has no laods and that''s just for the 6 or so he sells, you can't really expect a doctor to know about the medicine for everything.


He sells drugs?

Inb4 requests! :p
#19
for those unwilling to read daily mail articles or click thru to the site

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/14/doctor-daniel-ubani-david-gray


available on all credible new sites also
banned#20
jah128
My gosh, how shocking - he was reading a medical manual when he could have been reading the Daily Mail. How terrible.


Now thats just being silly.

Would you not think that reading the manual to get the facts he should have got it right and not killed someone through negligence?

I think some people have too much of a fixation with the DM... and its actually not the OP!
#21
guv;7542353
Now thats just being silly.

Would you not think that reading the manual to get the facts he should have got it right and not killed someone through negligence?

I think some people have too much of a fixation with the DM... and its actually not the OP!


Sorry Guv but remind me what the title to this thread is again? Its one of the most ridiculous articles to be copy-pasted so far - doctors have to read medical manuals all the time, every day, they are not expected to know everything - so what relevance does it have to this case?
#22
i dont understand what being Foreign has got to do with it tbh :?
#23
ilovepink
i dont understand what being Foreign has got to do with it tbh :?


Nothing, unless like in this case the Doctor could speak very little English and no doubt unable to read English as well.
#24
ilovepink
i dont understand what being Foreign has got to do with it tbh :?


the fact that he only arived in the country the day before? were all his qualifications in order etc etc
banned#25
ilovepink
i dont understand what being Foreign has got to do with it tbh :?


Did you not see who the OP was?

The act of him reading a book doesn't prove anything. He may have been refreshing his learning - most people do that in jobs that demand it.
banned#26
jah128
Sorry Guv but remind me what the title to this thread is again? Its one of the most ridiculous articles to be copy-pasted so far - doctors have to read medical manuals all the time, every day, they are not expected to know everything - so what relevance does it have to this case?


This

Inactive
Nothing, unless like in this case the Doctor could speak very little English and no doubt unable to read English as well.


HTH
#27
Inactive
Nothing, unless like in this case the Doctor could speak very little English and no doubt unable to read English as well.


i have 3 docs at my local surgury one i can understand a word of what he says so i just ask to see him, if dr. Ubani did seem 'dithery' and was 'muttering to himself' at the time, why didnt the dead man's partner say summit or ask to see someone else?
banned#28
FilthAndFurry
Did you not see who the OP was?


I know its difficult for you to post on topic and without baiting, but there was a specific request in the OP to avoid this sort of post.

Please stop now before JB has to remove your posts again.:thumbsup:
#29
ilovepink
i have 3 docs at my local surgury one i can understand a word of what he says so i just ask to see him, if dr. Ubani did seem 'dithery' and was 'muttering to himself' at the time, why didnt the dead man's partner say summit or ask to see someone else?


hindsight is a wonderful thing.......
#30
Inactive
Nothing, unless like in this case the Doctor could speak very little English and no doubt unable to read English as well.


casparwhite
the fact that he only arived in the country the day before? were all his qualifications in order etc etc


ok i didnt readit when i asked that, just thought they chucked it in the title to make it more exciting :thumbsup:
#31
Inactive;7542484
Nothing, unless like in this case the Doctor could speak very little English and no doubt unable to read English as well.


No doubt? What do you base this on - his written English is not perfect, but to be fair its better than a significant number of the posters on this site, he was born and spent most his youth in Nigeria which is officially an English speaking nation, he's clearly bright enough to qualify as a surgeon in Germany, which has requirements at least on par with medical schools in the UK...

guv;7542514
This

HTH


^ Indeed.
#32
casparwhite
hindsight is a wonderful thing.......



if someone specially a doc was acting weird i would of said something, and i have done in the past:thumbsup:
#33
ilovepink
ok i didnt readit when i asked that, just thought they chucked it in the title to make it more exciting :thumbsup:


you mean u saw daily mail link and jumped to presumptions:thumbsup:
#34
[SIZE="5"]In May, it was alleged that Cambridgeshire Police had been preparing to arrest Mr Ubani for manslaughter when he returned to Britain for a General Medical Council hearing in London in January 2009.
But Ubani failed to turn up. His lawyer admitted to the Daily Mail that Mr Ubani had deliberately chosen a trial in Germany to avoid being tried here for manslaughter.[/SIZE]
#35
ilovepink
i have 3 docs at my local surgury one i can understand a word of what he says so i just ask to see him, if dr. Ubani did seem 'dithery' and was 'muttering to himself' at the time, why didnt the dead man's partner say summit or ask to see someone else?


This was an emergency night service, not at a GP's Surgery, every patient has the right to be treated by a competent Doctor, this one clearly was not competent, read the whole article and other one's relating to it.
#36
jah128
No doubt? What do you base this on - his written English is not perfect, but to be fair its better than a significant number of the posters on this site, he was born and spent most his youth in Nigeria which is officially an English speaking nation, he's clearly bright enough to qualify as a surgeon in Germany, which has requirements at least on par with medical schools in the UK...


You need to do a bit more research before making statements like that.
#37
ilovepink
if someone specially a doc was acting weird i would of said something, and i have done in the past:thumbsup:


you should not have to tho is the point being made i believe......they are dr's ffs trusted members f our society apparently

its bad enough getting to see 1 in this country without refusing or kicking up a fuss when you do
banned#38
The thing we should look at is why we're bringing in foreign doctors at great expense.

I blame the education system, and the parents of kids who can't bring up children smart enough to get 5 good GCSEs in some areas.

If that's how we treat the lesser members of society, it's no wonder we're understaffed in these skilled roles.
#39
Inactive;7542597
You need to do a bit more research before making statements like that.


Which statement do you object to?
#40
FilthAndFurry
The thing we should look at is why we're bringing in foreign doctors at great expense.

I blame the education system, and the parents of kids who can't bring up children smart enough to get 5 good GCSEs in some areas.

If that's how we treat the lesser members of society, it's no wonder we're understaffed in these skilled roles.


well the ones we have had arent much better.........shipman, mccan to name but 2

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