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Frozen pipes!

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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
First time I have been in a property that I have had frozen pipes.

No water in kitchen or either bathroom, to washing machine, or shower.

I can't find any stop valve thing, and the pipes under sink are plastic so not sure where to check.

Am checking google as we speak but want a nice warm shower and do washing before I go away for Christmas tommorow!
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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1 Like #1
Borrow your neighbours kettle, get a ladder... climb up and pour hot water in all the pipes... easssssssssy.
banned#2
you don't really want to go away when pipe is at point of bursting
#3
Tell your landlord ,at least it's not your property,

Had it happen to me,i kept boiling the kettle and tried pouring it down the sink,then scooped it back out with a bowl and did it again,i did this a few times over the course of 24 hours and it cleared today,no idea if it helped or not or whether it thawed out on its own lol

It's never happened to me before either,it was a right pain!
#4
Yeah I went to neighbours and filled up 2 kettles, just boiling the kettles as we speak, the only visable pipes are under the sink, I tested the heating and its coming on but more warm then hot so I guess is using leftover water in tank, turned it back off just in case.
banned 3 Likes #5
Inb4 the "my house is flooded" thread.
#6
it was on the news earlier about how many people are suffering with frozen/burst pipes etc and one thing they recommended was if you are going away for xmas , even for just a day or so then to leave your heating on at a low temp , one woman went away for two days and is now flooded due to burst pipes ( not nice ) ...hope you get it sorted and merry xmas x
#7
Ok poured a lot of boiling water down sink and nothing, pipes feel really hot not, then tried sink in bathroom and it went right through so I doubt its that pipe.

Left my electric heater near pipes(not near enough to burn them, and the pipes are hot but still nothing.
#8
pooring it down the drain is not going to do anything, they go straight to the sewers if your incomming supply is from the sewers then your pipes being frozen is not the major issue here.

Your house will only get flooded if the pipes are frozen at a high point (ie loft) of under floorboard on 1st floor - the latter being very rare, check the pipes in the loft - if they run there, if not then it will be underground where unfortunatly you cant do anything.
#9
could be the mains water pipe into the house that has frozen.
#10
We had water yesterday but kitchen sink was blocked due to frozen pipe. Husband took off part of outside pipe and inside was a big block of ice! He poured hot water down it
It worked :)

But today the bath is now blocking!!

It does work!!!

So he will have to do the other pipe nowoO
Never had this before!



Edited By: Babylove on Dec 21, 2010 21:35
#11
MinstrelMan
pooring it down the drain is not going to do anything, they go straight to the sewers if your incomming supply is from the sewers then your pipes being frozen is not the major issue here.

Your house will only get flooded if the pipes are frozen at a high point (ie loft) of under floorboard on 1st floor - the latter being very rare, check the pipes in the loft - if they run there, if not then it will be underground where unfortunatly you cant do anything.


I dont know if I have a loft, I see a old thing where a loft might be but no way of getting to it but may risk it.

I live 2 floors above ground level so probably likely pipes are above me, will ask neighbour again as he has landlords direct number as I go through agency.
#12
richp
could be the mains water pipe into the house that has frozen.


Thanks, my neighbours supply is fine though and he never has heating on as he uses electric heaters yet I have heating on more often than him and hot water all the time.
#13
MinstrelMan
pooring it down the drain is not going to do anything, they go straight to the sewers if your incomming supply is from the sewers then your pipes being frozen is not the major issue here.Your house will only get flooded if the pipes are frozen at a high point (ie loft) of under floorboard on 1st floor - the latter being very rare, check the pipes in the loft - if they run there, if not then it will be underground where unfortunatly you cant do anything.

If you pour it down the sink,it goes straight to the sewer ,how do you come to that conclusion?

The pipe that was frozen in my bathroom,goes to the downspout,it was that part of the pipe outside that was frozen.

Edited By: deb8z on Dec 21, 2010 21:43
1 Like #14
deb8z
MinstrelMan
pooring it down the drain is not going to do anything, they go straight to the sewers if your incomming supply is from the sewers then your pipes being frozen is not the major issue here.Your house will only get flooded if the pipes are frozen at a high point (ie loft) of under floorboard on 1st floor - the latter being very rare, check the pipes in the loft - if they run there, if not then it will be underground where unfortunatly you cant do anything.
If you pour it down the sink,it goes straight to the sewer ,how do you come to that conclusion?The pipe that was frozen in my bathroom,goes to the downspout,it was that part of the pipe outside that was frozen.

And where does your downspout go too?

a frozen downspout will not affect your incoming water supply.
#15
I didn't realise he didn't have any water either,in the OP when he said he had frozen pipes,i thought he meant he had the same problem as i did,a certain pipe was frozen,i had water from the taps,it wouldn't go down the sink.
#16
Yep I have no water, cant even have a cold wash or even go to toilet as it will not fill up.
#17
pipe outside my house(outside tap) burst today while i was in work! not good i tell ya im just glad it was outside and not inside coz it had been burst for 3 hours, neighbours saw water spewing all over the drive, going to be icy in my garden and outside my drive tomorrow, have put rock salt down and hope it does something so the pavement doesnt ice over.

try and find out where your stop valve is, and remember to turn your water off incase they re freeze while your away for christmas really wouldnt want to chance coming back to your place if it is flooded due to this. how long are you away for?
banned#18
Renting or Owner?
#19
Thats weird, I've never heard of a downspout being frozen before, as its under gravity the water should flow out before it gets chance to freeze, although saying that stranger things have happened this week.

My windscreen wiper jets were frozen last night as I was de-icing my car to go home, i scraped the ice off but had loads of salt on the windscreen, warmed the car up and the windscreen using the air con and was going to use a bottle of water I had in the car to clean it, turns out that the water had super cooled itself, as I went to squirt it out of the bottle it froze while hitting the atmosphere creating what can only be described as a frozen fountain off the top of this plastic bottle, it didnt even reach my windscreen, it went from liquid to solid ice in less than half a second, it was very weird.
#20
Peterdj41
pipe outside my house(outside tap) burst today while i was in work! not good i tell ya im just glad it was outside and not inside coz it had been burst for 3 hours, neighbours saw water spewing all over the drive, going to be icy in my garden and outside my drive tomorrow, have put rock salt down and hope it does something so the pavement doesnt ice over.

try and find out where your stop valve is, and remember to turn your water off incase they re freeze while your away for christmas really wouldnt want to chance coming back to your place if it is flooded due to this. how long are you away for?


Any ideas where a stop valve normally is? I cant find any in my property and have checked under all sinks and found no stop valves that I can see.
#21
JonnyTwoToes
Renting or Owner?


Renting from an agency that is closed till the morning!
banned#22
Peterdj41
pipe outside my house(outside tap) burst today


Yikes.... you've just reminded me!!!!!!
#23
ryouga
Peterdj41
pipe outside my house(outside tap) burst today while i was in work! not good i tell ya im just glad it was outside and not inside coz it had been burst for 3 hours, neighbours saw water spewing all over the drive, going to be icy in my garden and outside my drive tomorrow, have put rock salt down and hope it does something so the pavement doesnt ice over.

try and find out where your stop valve is, and remember to turn your water off incase they re freeze while your away for christmas really wouldnt want to chance coming back to your place if it is flooded due to this. how long are you away for?

Any ideas where a stop valve normally is? I cant find any in my property and have checked under all sinks and found no stop valves that I can see.

usually under the sink or sometimes behind the toilet, just read you live 2 floors above ground, what is under you? more flats or a shop? when i lived in my flat the stop valve was actually outside so you might have to wait until morning to phone the agency to ask where it is incase it is outside and then turn it off before you leave.

Edited By: Peterdj41 on Dec 21, 2010 22:09
banned#24
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
Renting or Owner?


Renting from an agency that is closed till the morning!


Two choices.

a) Earn more money and buy a pad

or

b) put up with it like the other million odd renters in this situation do.

I got a phone call from my tenant the other day. He wanted hot water! I said I had just spent £80 on a tree so get ****!

This is what capitalism does for you. Cogs vs the Cog pushers.

I know that sounds really harsh, but you are one in a long line of tenants wanting landlords to work miracles.

Sorry.
#25
JonnyTwoToes
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
Renting or Owner?


Renting from an agency that is closed till the morning!


Two choices.

a) Earn more money and buy a pad

or

b) put up with it like the other million odd renters in this situation do.

I got a phone call from my tenant the other day. He wanted hot water! I said I had just spent £80 on a tree so get ****!

This is what capitalism does for you. Cogs vs the Cog pushers.

I know that sounds really harsh, but you are one in a long line of tenants wanting landlords to work miracles.

Sorry.


Oh my landlord is fine, not sure if joint landlord is his wife but she is grumpy always comes out next day if problem.

I really want to get in contact with them to find out where stop valve is and to see if they knew where main pipes were so I can find out what ones to defrost.

Just checked 118247(which seemed to cost about £5 a minute from mobile for some reason!) and landlord is ex directory so cant ring them tonight.
#26
As a tennant myself, i'd have to spit at you.
#27
guv
Peterdj41
pipe outside my house(outside tap) burst today

Yikes.... you've just reminded me!!!!!!

uh oh!?
#28
try tracing the copper pipes visually until you find the stop cock - it might be downstairs. One of our stop cocks isn't one as such, it;s a thingy with a screw that does the same job.
#29
Are you getting any water out of any tap? If so save it in a saucepan or something for the kettle, our hot water has a tank and takes ages to drain down.
banned#30
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
Renting or Owner?


Renting from an agency that is closed till the morning!


Two choices.

a) Earn more money and buy a pad

or

b) put up with it like the other million odd renters in this situation do.

I got a phone call from my tenant the other day. He wanted hot water! I said I had just spent £80 on a tree so get ****!

This is what capitalism does for you. Cogs vs the Cog pushers.

I know that sounds really harsh, but you are one in a long line of tenants wanting landlords to work miracles.

Sorry.


Oh my landlord is fine, not sure if joint landlord is his wife but she is grumpy always comes out next day if problem.

I really want to get in contact with them to find out where stop valve is and to see if they knew where main pipes were so I can find out what ones to defrost.

Just checked 118247(which seemed to cost about £5 a minute from mobile for some reason!) and landlord is ex directory so cant ring them tonight.


That's different. You should NEVER have hostility from your landlord/letting agent.

If you do, take them to the insurance company that guaranteed the landlord of their pay.

It works both ways.

I'm lucky, my tenants are awesome. Although I go through a letting agent, I have given them my direct contact details because I work around the corner from them. I'd rather frustration gets taken out of my wallet that my apartment! oO

But in this cold weather, you really have to wait your turn.

Has your landlord/letting agent got any type of British Gas cover?

I made sure my tenants were fully covered (at my expense) so they could call a hotline number and get things sorted ASAP. See, it's not about the money to me. It's about my tenants enjoying my 'pad' as much as I did when I was there. I lose about £100 a month on it.

But that's just me.
banned#31
Before I get slated! No, I don't 'actually lose £100'

Monthly budgets suggest that, but I have the capital of the building being repaid so I'm actually £300 up a month.
1 Like #32
JonnyTwoToes
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
Renting or Owner?


Renting from an agency that is closed till the morning!


Two choices.

a) Earn more money and buy a pad

or

b) put up with it like the other million odd renters in this situation do.

I got a phone call from my tenant the other day. He wanted hot water! I said I had just spent £80 on a tree so get ****!

This is what capitalism does for you. Cogs vs the Cog pushers.

I know that sounds really harsh, but you are one in a long line of tenants wanting landlords to work miracles.

Sorry.


You mister are an absolute ****
banned#33
aardvarking


You mister are an absolute ****


Care to explain why my lover?
#34
Any ideas where a stop valve normally is? I cant find any in my property and have checked under all sinks and found no stop valves that I can see.


Ours is in the bathroom. Just to the right of the toilet
#35
chalkysoil
try tracing the copper pipes visually until you find the stop cock - it might be downstairs. One of our stop cocks isn't one as such, it;s a thingy with a screw that does the same job.


The only thing like that I have is the boiler valves to release pressure.
JonnyTwoToes
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
Renting or Owner?


Renting from an agency that is closed till the morning!


Two choices.

a) Earn more money and buy a pad

or

b) put up with it like the other million odd renters in this situation do.

I got a phone call from my tenant the other day. He wanted hot water! I said I had just spent £80 on a tree so get ****!

This is what capitalism does for you. Cogs vs the Cog pushers.

I know that sounds really harsh, but you are one in a long line of tenants wanting landlords to work miracles.

Sorry.


Oh my landlord is fine, not sure if joint landlord is his wife but she is grumpy always comes out next day if problem.

I really want to get in contact with them to find out where stop valve is and to see if they knew where main pipes were so I can find out what ones to defrost.

Just checked 118247(which seemed to cost about £5 a minute from mobile for some reason!) and landlord is ex directory so cant ring them tonight.


That's different. You should NEVER have hostility from your landlord/letting agent.

If you do, take them to the insurance company that guaranteed the landlord of their pay.

It works both ways.

I'm lucky, my tenants are awesome. Although I go through a letting agent, I have given them my direct contact details because I work around the corner from them. I'd rather frustration gets taken out of my wallet that my apartment! oO

But in this cold weather, you really have to wait your turn.

Has your landlord/letting agent got any type of British Gas cover?

I made sure my tenants were fully covered (at my expense) so they could call a hotline number and get things sorted ASAP. See, it's not about the money to me. It's about my tenants enjoying my 'pad' as much as I did when I was there. I lose about £100 a month on it.

But that's just me.


Thats what I was thinking, was checking through all my paperwork since I moved in as they gave me a wad of stuff like receipt(a4 sized) one for rent one for deposit, inventory, tenancy agreement etc.

They must have an emergency number somewhere.
#36
Frozen pipes! :( sick of the sight of them...that's all i've been dealing with at work this last week
banned#37
ryouga


Thats what I was thinking, was checking through all my paperwork since I moved in as they gave me a wad of stuff like receipt(a4 sized) one for rent one for deposit, inventory, tenancy agreement etc.

They must have an emergency number somewhere.


Yes, they will. So it's through an agent rather than a landlord?

I'll dig out the insurance scheme most agents abide by for you tomorrow. Mention their name and you might get some action.

Good luck!
1 Like #38
JonnyTwoToes
ryouga


Thats what I was thinking, was checking through all my paperwork since I moved in as they gave me a wad of stuff like receipt(a4 sized) one for rent one for deposit, inventory, tenancy agreement etc.

They must have an emergency number somewhere.


Yes, they will. So it's through an agent rather than a landlord?

I'll dig out the insurance scheme most agents abide by for you tomorrow. Mention their name and you might get some action.

Good luck!


Yeah its an agency, but a Scottish one.

Anyway found the stop valve, its right between a very tight opening between toilet and bath and looks like it hasnt been used in years.

Thanks for help so far.
banned#39
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
ryouga


Thats what I was thinking, was checking through all my paperwork since I moved in as they gave me a wad of stuff like receipt(a4 sized) one for rent one for deposit, inventory, tenancy agreement etc.

They must have an emergency number somewhere.


Yes, they will. So it's through an agent rather than a landlord?

I'll dig out the insurance scheme most agents abide by for you tomorrow. Mention their name and you might get some action.

Good luck!


Yeah its an agency, but a Scottish one.

Anyway found the stop valve, its right between a very tight opening between toilet and bath and looks like it hasnt been used in years.

Thanks for help so far.


PM me if you need any more info - glad to help, I know a lot of other landlords aren't!
#40
ryouga
JonnyTwoToes
ryouga


Thats what I was thinking, was checking through all my paperwork since I moved in as they gave me a wad of stuff like receipt(a4 sized) one for rent one for deposit, inventory, tenancy agreement etc.

They must have an emergency number somewhere.

Yes, they will. So it's through an agent rather than a landlord?

I'll dig out the insurance scheme most agents abide by for you tomorrow. Mention their name and you might get some action.

Good luck!

Yeah its an agency, but a Scottish one.

Anyway found the stop valve, its right between a very tight opening between toilet and bath and looks like it hasnt been used in years.

Thanks for help so far.

spose that will be piece of mind when you are away at least

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