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:: FS/FT :: Fo.lk //////Your Views on the new rules.\\\\\\ Need Clarification ask in thread.

Adam2050 Avatar
6y, 3w agoPosted 6 years, 3 weeks ago
Your Views on the new rules?

Please only post sensible questions.

Prohibited Trades. The following items must not be listed.

*Weapons
*Medicines / Age Restricted Products
*Copied Media
*Console Cards / Pandora type batteries/PS3 Jailbreak Devices
*Alcohol
*Tobacco / accessories
*Illegal Substances
*Sexually Explicit Items
*Non Transferable Gaming/Adword Accounts
*Cable TV Boxes
*Rail Tickets
*Football Tickets
*Vouchers with minimum spend or next to no resale value.
*Currency / money exchange
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6y, 3w agoPosted 6 years, 3 weeks ago
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#1
Playing it Safe

The trading forums are only as safe as the community which takes care of it. It’s up to you to be careful when trading. If you see anything suspicious, please report the thread quickly with any details you may have.

Use Paypal rather than bank transfers or other forms of money exchange. Additional protection may be offered but does not cover all scenarios nor does it guarantee a full refund. See the Buyer Protection Off Ebay for further info. Paypal gift, whilst convenient, offers no such protection.

Caveat Emptor.

Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct. It’s in your best interest to check out these details yourself. The trading forums are the equivalent to a newspaper’s classified section, We cannot be held responsible nor can we vouch for any listings or sales/trades in this forum. Use your head, follow the guidelines, evaluate the risk and make your own decision.

Always follow the Trading Advice in full for agreed trades and prior to payment.

All buyers and sellers should satisfy themselves that either party is genuine by providing and verifying the following via PM to each other:

* Landline telephone number – make a CALL to check out the area code and number are correct. Consider using the BT Directory or 192.com to verify.
* Name and address including postcode. Consider verifying via 192.com
* Valid e-mail address.
* If you’re using PayPal, check to see if the seller has eBay feedback. You can also make a small payment to and from each other to validate the PayPal e-mail address
* Only buy from Verified PayPal Members if possible

Do NOT proceed with a deal until you are completely satisfied with all details being correct. It’s in your best interest to check out these details yourself.

Trade Obligations

All threads must include an asking price or valuation of the item if intending to trade only. You cannot revalue your item upwards after an offer has been made. Whilst you are not obliged to sell at the listed price, you should ensure your thread is closed and 7 full days have elapsed from the date of the last post before relisting. Once an offer is made and accepted, it should be considered final. Accepting a higher bid beyond this point is not permitted, this is not an auction site. Failure by either party to complete an agreed trade may result in suspension from the site. Goods remain the sellers responsibility until buyer has confirmed receipt of the item.

No Business/Trader like behaviour.

Selling more than two identical items in a three month period may be classed as bulk sales, and is therefore not permitted. Likewise, significant volumes of the same item type being offered may lead to a trade restriction.

You cannot list items if you have a live listing for the same item or item type elsewhere.

This includes ‘Wanted’ threads. This is aimed to ensure that all negotiations are contained within the thread and no reference/bargaining to offers made elsewhere. Members do not always have access to other forums and are unable to verify such statements.

Profiteering is not permitted

You must not list items for higher than their RRP, nor can you trade items for a higher price you have paid for the same item elsewhere on the site.

Sales negotiations must take part within the respective thread.

Dealing by PM or email is not allowed. Personal details should not be added to any listings.

A maximum of 3 bumps per thread.

Do not bump your threads excessively. It’s not fair on other users. Three bumps per thread are allowed in order to promote your listing. For this reasons, no vague threads are permitted and the item offered/wanted must be specific Likewise members responding to wanted threads must reply with an offer that progresses the thread . Any unnecessary comments or consecutive postings within your thread will be classed as a bump or thread spoil.

Threads allow up to 5 photos per post, if you are listing several items in one thread, please reserve a post at time of the thread creation (by making a comment within your thread and later editing your pictures into that comment) otherwise subsequent photo/request for photos may be deemed as a bump.

All photos must be of the actual item for sale (not a stock photo) and include a note containing your member name and dated alongside. It is your responsibility to take a picture of the item you’re selling before listing on Hotukdeals and to add them to your thread as soon as possible to avoid unnecessary bumps.

Only one person per household can use the trading forums

If your partner or a family member wishes to access the remainder of the site then please use the contact form. Any multiple accounts posting within the trading forums will be suspended from the site.

No Thread Spoiling.

Do not comment within any trade thread unless you are actually interested in the item listed or you post a valid URL to the same item new and cheaper elsewhere. Links to auction / marketplace sites are not allowed. Lowball offers are classed as threadspoiling.

No Thread Jacking.

Taking over someone else’s thread and using it for your own means.

Managing your threads.

It is the responsibility of the member to ensure that they lock threads and ensure 7 full days have elapsed from the last post should they decide to relist. Threads can be self managed via HUKD’s dedicated trading site at fo.lk Members can log in using their current HUKD username and password. All posts are replicated between both sites.


Prohibited Trades. The following items must not be listed.

*Weapons
*Medicines / Age Restricted Products
*Copied Media
*Console Cards / Pandora type batteries/PS3 Jailbreak Devices
*Alcohol
*Tobacco / accessories
*Illegal Substances
*Sexually Explicit Items
*Non Transferable Gaming/Adword Accounts
*Cable TV Boxes
*Rail Tickets
*Football Tickets
*Vouchers with minimum spend or next to no resale value.
*Currency / money exchange

Trading Feedback.

Please make sure you leave clear and honest trading feedback for any trade you have completed. This helps good traders build a healthy reputation and warns others about the bad ones.

Feedback should only be left after a trade is completely entered into, such as items paid for, exchange of items commenced etc. Please do not use it as a retaliatory tool at any time for any site issue, as that will at least result in an infraction, suspension or your exclusion from trading altogether.

Unresolved Trades

Traders with unresolved trades may be suspended or banned from using the trading forums. Members should attempt to resolve any issues prior to notification to moderators. In the event a member fails to return to the forum, you are advised to continue dialogue via the verified contact details received earlier in the trade.

Moderators Decisions.

Requests made by moderators for further information must be adhered to. Failure to follow may result in account restrictions. In addition we reserve the right to close any thread that breaches the trading rules or we feel may be unsafe. Moderators decisions should be deemed as final, however there is a right of appeal should you disagree by using the Contact Us facility. Admin(s) will conduct an independent review.


LINK TO RULES

Edited By: Adam2050 on Nov 09, 2010 11:15: .
banned#2
Damn my fleshlight sale is on hold :(
[mod]#3
Just added that you can buy/sell vouchers again really.
#4
too many rules to remember, a lot make sense, most are nonsensical, and all too much of a ball ache, would rather pay the extra and ebay it, think this site would benefit if private sales were removed tbh
[admin] 2 Likes #5
Knew you'd be first!!

jayjay they've actually been condensed! The main change is vouchers are now allowed, removing it wouldn't be a good idea atm, so many members make use of it and enjoy browsing the FS forum. Of course, it's not for everyone but in my opinion, it's a useful resource for a lot of members.
#6
juliet_bravo
Knew you'd be first!! jayjay they've actually been condensed! The main change is vouchers are now allowed, removing it wouldn't be a good idea atm, so many members make use of it and enjoy browsing the FS forum. Of course, it's not for everyone but in my opinion, it's a useful resource for a lot of members.

Think the simplicity of the rules is far more user friendly.
#7
juliet, are airsoft guns allowed, as they are not weapons but toys
1 Like #8
I have loads to sell but I am actually 'too scared' to even attempt to sell anything on here!!
[admin]#9
Wickedteen nah not atm, they're a grey area, true, but as the forum isn't limited to just adults I think it's something we need to be careful with.

Snowtiger - Don't be scared! Get in there, give one of the mods or other regular members a shout if you're unsure on anything
[mod]#10
Do Nerf guns count as Airsoft?
#11
haha
#12
can you sell cex vouchers???
#13
stiffnuts
can you sell cex vouchers???

As long as they don't have 0.00 value on them.

Vouchers are sellable now. Hopefully people are sensible and this isn't removed.
banned#14
stiffnuts
can you sell cex vouchers???


If you mean you have vouchers as a result of trading in items to CEX (or perhaps a gift voucher - if they have such a thing) - then yes it's now permitted.




Trading Rules Revised
The Trading Rules were updated on 09/11/2010. If you use the trading forums it's in your interests to review. Click here for further info.
#15
Yes that's what I mean

Thanks for info (I think I will stick them on here).
banned#16
was there any thought ever gave to adding a sub forum for disputed trades (like av forums have)?
#17
snowtiger
I have loads to sell but I am actually 'too scared' to even attempt to sell anything on here!!


Me too!
#18
Shouldthe copied media thing be amended to say "copied media/iPhone app's" as well?

this is one of the most common type of things that people get threads locked for...

Edited By: boothy on Nov 09, 2010 12:32: Bdhcbch
banned#19
boothy
Shouldthe copied media thing be amended to say "copied media/iPhone app's" as well?

this is one of the most common type of things that people get threads locked for...


It should probably say something along the lines of copyright protected media. The last thing we really wanted was a list stretching into 100's.

I'll see if we can capture that a little better, but you're spot on in your observation.
banned#20
colinsunderland
was there any thought ever gave to adding a sub forum for disputed trades (like av forums have)?


I've not seen that listed as an approved feature request yet. I'm not sure of the merits either, as I'm quite content for those threads to remain in the public view as such, with feedback covering the eventual outcome. If there's a valid reason for doing so (apart from it being a central point and sometimes a good read), do let us know.



nikkib123
snowtiger
I have loads to sell but I am actually 'too scared' to even attempt to sell anything on here!!


Me too!


Please don't be. If you have items to trade, consider taking it one step at a time. Start with one item or ask a mod for guidance. We'll be more than happy to assist.


Edited By: aScottishBloke on Nov 09, 2010 12:47: typo
banned#21
aScottishBloke
boothy
Shouldthe copied media thing be amended to say "copied media/iPhone app's" as well?

this is one of the most common type of things that people get threads locked for...


It should probably say something along the lines of copyright protected media. The last thing we really wanted was a list stretching into 100's.

I'll see if we can capture that a little better, but you're spot on in your observation.


Could you not say something like
no copyrighted media unless original disk or COA is supplied (or something like that)
and for the cards rather than list each 'no device that allows circumvention of copyright protection' which would cater for all the cards and any future ones.

Edited By: colinsunderland on Nov 09, 2010 12:48: x
banned#22
aScottishBloke
colinsunderland
was there any thought ever gave to adding a sub forum for disputed trades (like av forums have)?


I've not seen that listed as an approved feature request yet. I'm not sure of the merits either, as I'm quite content for those threads to remain in the public view as such, with feedback covering the eventual outcome. If there's a valid reason for doing so (apart from it being a central point and sometimes a good read), do let us know.


Well it was you who told me you had passed the idea to admin and would update us when a decision was made? You said at the time you weren't sure if a sub forum could be added due to forum limitations.

The threads would still be in public view but as many people don't leave feedback as they are scared of getting one back people can see what went on and make their own minds up. Plus it's easier to see if a serial scammer has any unresolved disputes which could stop people sending money before a neg has been left.
banned#23
Could you not say something like
no copyrighted media unless original disk or COA is supplied (or something like that)
and for the cards rather than list each 'no device that allows circumvention of copyright protection' which would cater for all the cards and any future ones.



I'll look at the media wording. With regards to items which may or may not be used primarily for circumvention of copyright protection - that's usually a case for the copyright owner to manage. In that sense we adhere to 'take down notices' if requested and approved. It's not meant to be a blanket ban as such.


Re Sub forums. My comment was that it's not a current feature request that's been approved. I did however want to explore more of the reasons why it may have been deemed to be beneficial.
#24
Should non transferable hotel reservations be added as well....travelodge cheap rooms frequently get listed and locked when they have a sale on
[mod][Moderator]#25
I've got lots of baby clothes to list, all bnwot/bnwt as my 2 girls are monsters and outgrew everything so quickly, but I have some of the same outfits in 6-9, 9-12 and 12-18 mths, all too sml for 13mth old and will be too sml/too big for the 10 week old in the correct season, can I list them or does that fall foul of the 3 item rule? thanks
#26
wishihadadonkey
I've got lots of baby clothes to list, all bnwot/bnwt as my 2 girls are monsters and outgrew everything so quickly, but I have some of the same outfits in 6-9, 9-12 and 12-18 mths, all too sml for 13mth old and will be too sml/too big for the 10 week old in the correct season, can I list them or does that fall foul of the 3 item rule? thanks

No Business/Trader like behaviour.

Selling more than two identical items in a three month period may be classed as bulk sales, and is therefore not permitted. Likewise, significant volumes of the same item type being offered may lead to a trade restriction.

Would fall under two items of the same unless you decided to sell them together you could list 3 or I believe you could list two together as a bundle and then one on its own, or wait 3 months to list again.

Edited By: Adam2050 on Nov 09, 2010 13:40: .
[mod][Moderator]#27
Adam2050
wishihadadonkey
I've got lots of baby clothes to list, all bnwot/bnwt as my 2 girls are monsters and outgrew everything so quickly, but I have some of the same outfits in 6-9, 9-12 and 12-18 mths, all too sml for 13mth old and will be too sml/too big for the 10 week old in the correct season, can I list them or does that fall foul of the 3 item rule? thanks
No Business/Trader like behaviour.
Selling more than two identical items in a three month period may be classed as bulk sales, and is therefore not permitted. Likewise, significant volumes of the same item type being offered may lead to a trade restriction.
Would fall under two items of the same unless you decided to sell them together you could list 3 or I believe you could list two together as a bundle and then one on its own, or wait 3 months to list again.

Erm I'm not a trader/business, just a mum of 2 small children and a teen, most of anything I have to sell would be used, but like alot of others on here I have some outfits that have never been worn, prob about 20 across the age ranges, and was hoping to sell as a bundle, will pm a mod to ask for clarification I think
[mod]#28
Adam2050
wishihadadonkey
I've got lots of baby clothes to list, all bnwot/bnwt as my 2 girls are monsters and outgrew everything so quickly, but I have some of the same outfits in 6-9, 9-12 and 12-18 mths, all too sml for 13mth old and will be too sml/too big for the 10 week old in the correct season, can I list them or does that fall foul of the 3 item rule? thanks


No Business/Trader like behaviour.

Selling more than two identical items in a three month period may be classed as bulk sales, and is therefore not permitted. Likewise, significant volumes of the same item type being offered may lead to a trade restriction.


Would fall under two items of the same unless you decided to sell them together you could list 3 or I believe you could list two together as a bundle and then one on its own, or wait 3 months to list again.


I think that would be harsh as anyone with kids knows how quickly they grow and you often buy the same items in various sizes when they are that young.

That to me would be like grouping together someone's DVD's as bulk. Common sense has to prevail.

I've bought no end of kids clothes..........i'm not a trader. Just a parent of 3 boys. :)
banned#29
mumbojumbo
Devil's advocate here...
How about 1 active listing per category per user? ;)


+1
that must be the most complained about feature in fs
Maybe not one per cat but have say 3 active listings at any one time.
#30
wishihadadonkey
Adam2050
wishihadadonkey
I've got lots of baby clothes to list, all bnwot/bnwt as my 2 girls are monsters and outgrew everything so quickly, but I have some of the same outfits in 6-9, 9-12 and 12-18 mths, all too sml for 13mth old and will be too sml/too big for the 10 week old in the correct season, can I list them or does that fall foul of the 3 item rule? thanks
No Business/Trader like behaviour.
Selling more than two identical items in a three month period may be classed as bulk sales, and is therefore not permitted. Likewise, significant volumes of the same item type being offered may lead to a trade restriction.
Would fall under two items of the same unless you decided to sell them together you could list 3 or I believe you could list two together as a bundle and then one on its own, or wait 3 months to list again.
Erm I'm not a trader/business, just a mum of 2 small children and a teen, most of anything I have to sell would be used, but like alot of others on here I have some outfits that have never been worn, prob about 20 across the age ranges, and was hoping to sell as a bundle, will pm a mod to ask for clarification I think

Not accusing you of anything.

Simply showing you the rule it falls under. As Syzable has stated you think this would apply

I think that would be harsh as anyone with kids knows how quickly they grow and you often buy the same items in various sizes when they are that young.

That to me would be like grouping together someone's DVD's as bulk. Common sense has to prevail
banned#31
wishihadadonkey
I've got lots of baby clothes to list, all bnwot/bnwt as my 2 girls are monsters and outgrew everything so quickly, but I have some of the same outfits in 6-9, 9-12 and 12-18 mths, all too sml for 13mth old and will be too sml/too big for the 10 week old in the correct season, can I list them or does that fall foul of the 3 item rule? thanks


If the items are not an exact match, then it's likely to be permitted. We do appreciate the sometimes alarming rate that kids can grow and the volume of items some parents buy/receive. It would be a shame to deny members the right to recoup their expense or for others to buy at a low price.

If there's a sufficient enough pattern that makes us want to look further, we'd be in touch. Until then members can list as long as they adhere to the trading rules. Members with concerns can always report and we'll review.
#32
I've got 4 four mobile phones to sell
E71
E72
and 2 6700 Classics

My family all just upgraded, we're all on the same joint contract

Would I be allowed to sell all of them at once?
[mod][Moderator]#33
aScottishBloke
wishihadadonkey
I've got lots of baby clothes to list, all bnwot/bnwt as my 2 girls are monsters and outgrew everything so quickly, but I have some of the same outfits in 6-9, 9-12 and 12-18 mths, all too sml for 13mth old and will be too sml/too big for the 10 week old in the correct season, can I list them or does that fall foul of the 3 item rule? thanks
If the items are not an exact match, then it's likely to be permitted. We do appreciate the sometimes alarming rate that kids can grow and the volume of items some parents buy/receive. It would be a shame to deny members the right to recoup their expense or for others to buy at a low price.If there's a sufficient enough pattern that makes us want to look further, we'd be in touch. Until then members can list as long as they adhere to the trading rules. Members with concerns can always report and we'll review.

Ok, well when I get the time to sort out photos, list etc will do so, prob about 20 items across 3 age ranges, usually donate the used stuff to charity.
#34
chris_avfc
I've got 4 four mobile phones to sellE71E72and 2 6700 ClassicsMy family all just upgraded, we're all on the same joint contractWould I be allowed to sell all of them at once?

Answering the mods here again (if they don't wish for us too I will stop), but there's no problem in doing so mobile phones are sold here freely and as ASB has said they go on reports if you started selling lots of phones they may bring you up on it. But just make sure you following the rules and list with pic's otherwise you will loose a bump if someone asks you for them. Always give as much information as is suitable otherwise people end up asking you the same stuff over and over again.

Example

Handset A - Boxed/unboxed - condition - network - battery status etc.

Will help your sale also.

*Noted your feedback. Wasn't trying to be patronising.

Yes there should be no problem. (information regarding amount of items sold stands as per rule i've qouted already)


Edited By: Adam2050 on Nov 09, 2010 14:19: .

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