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Gay church marriages set to get the go-ahead

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banned5y, 9m agoPosted 5 years, 9 months ago
So hopefully this is one step closer to hammering the final nail into the religion coffin. The contradiction is ridiculous - surely logic will prevail and this will help people see what a nonsensical waste of time religion is.
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banned5y, 9m agoPosted 5 years, 9 months ago
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banned#1
banned 1 Like #2
Finally. When's the big day set for then JTT?
banned#3
master_chief
Finally. When's the big day set for then JTT?


Honestly! On a Sunday as well...... may god forgive you!
banned#4
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
Finally. When's the big day set for then JTT?


Honestly! On a Sunday as well...... may god forgive you!


What? I'm sure it was said you went with a man!?
banned#5
master_chief
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
Finally. When's the big day set for then JTT?


Honestly! On a Sunday as well...... may god forgive you!


What? I'm sure it was said you went with a man!?


Went where with a man?
banned#6
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
Finally. When's the big day set for then JTT?


Honestly! On a Sunday as well...... may god forgive you!


What? I'm sure it was said you went with a man!?


Went where with a man?


Your bed?
banned#7
master_chief
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
Finally. When's the big day set for then JTT?


Honestly! On a Sunday as well...... may god forgive you!


What? I'm sure it was said you went with a man!?


Went where with a man?


Your bed?


Why would I go to my bed with a man?
banned#8
It's just what people were saying a while back, around about the election last year.
banned 2 Likes #9
"religion waste of time" and "gay church wedding" .......bit of a contradiction somewhere
banned#10
master_chief
It's just what people were saying a while back, around about the election last year.


Oh, you mean when I said the conservatives would get in and the idiotic amoebas on here resorted to childish "he's gay!" tactics when I was proved right?
banned#11
goldmax
"religion waste of time" and "gay church wedding" .......bit of a contradiction somewhere


........ that's kind of the point.
banned#12
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
It's just what people were saying a while back, around about the election last year.


Oh, you mean when I said the conservatives would get in and the idiotic amoebas on here resorted to childish "he's gay!" tactics when I was proved right?


I'm sure they were saying it before the election result but yes. Their case seemed compelling!
banned#13
master_chief
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
It's just what people were saying a while back, around about the election last year.


Oh, you mean when I said the conservatives would get in and the idiotic amoebas on here resorted to childish "he's gay!" tactics when I was proved right?


I'm sure they were saying it before the election result but yes. Their case seemed compelling!


Compelling..... yes..... compelling.
3 Likes #14
I have nothing against gays. I think the fact they can have civil marriages is bootiful, and should have been done moons ago.
But I don't agree with this!!!
It won't affect me, but the bible is against man with man.
I am religious but I also think religious people, and the church are the most hipercrytical (sp) people alive. In most cases!!!
banned#15
It all seems to fit and this story does seem to have struck a chord with you...
banned#16
cherishu2
I have nothing against gays. I think the fact they can have civil marriages is bootiful, and should have been done moons ago.
But I don't agree with this!!!
It won't affect me, but the bible is against man with man.
I am religious but I also think religious people, and the church are the most hipercrytical (sp) people alive. In most cases!!!


The core construct of your belief system is contradicting itself on a daily basis. How can you believe in such an outdated fable?
banned#17
master_chief
It all seems to fit and this story does seem to have struck a chord with you...


No problem MC, I'll help you along. I'm all for gay weddings. This thread, however, is about the contradiction of religion.
banned#18
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
It all seems to fit and this story does seem to have struck a chord with you...


No problem MC, I'll help you along. I'm all for gay weddings. This thread, however, is about the contradiction of religion.


It's about gay marriage, that's what the title says anyway.

Are you guys thinking of adopting like Elton?
[mod] 4 Likes #19
Interesting to see that it's not just churches...........the law applies to all places of worship including mosques and synagogues. The Pope, Bishops and Imams will be somewhat flustered by this.

About time though, no place for prejudice.
#20
Interesting question, which of the other mainstream religions allow this? Anyone know?
banned#21
Syzable
Interesting to see that it's not just churches...........the law applies to all places of worship including mosques and synagogues. The Pope, Bishops and Imams will be somewhat flustered by this.

About time though, no place for prejudice.


I quite agree. The fact that religion is based on prejudice is the problem here. Will be somewhat funny to hear the excuses given by the sheep.
3 Likes #22
This is madness. I am all for gay marriages and went to a beautiful civil ceremony. But homosexuality is frowned upon(at the very least) in religion so why allow them to be married in church? Madness.
[mod]#23
CReilly
Interesting question, which of the other mainstream religions allow this? Anyone know?


In this country all of them will have to.
banned#24
Everyday, religion is becoming more and more diluted. Christianity already contradicts the bible on a daily basis due to 'evolving' in a modern society.
A modern society cannot support the teachings of religion. Religion is hanging on by it's finger tips, and stories like this magnify that point.

Edited By: JonnyTwoToes on Feb 13, 2011 10:32
2 Likes #25
It seems like the govt are just giving clergy the choice which is fine. As long as they don't force anyone to run their place of worship in a particular way. I am not religious myself but I respect the fact that some people believe very strongly and I don't think the state should ever force itself upon religion.
2 Likes #26
Shellywelly
This is madness. I am all for gay marriages and went to a beautiful civil ceremony. But homosexuality is frowned upon(at the very least) in religion so why allow them to be married in church? Madness.


But homosexual sex is going on in a lot of religious buildings......would be hypocritical not to allow marriage in my opinion

Churches are just buildings and it's a money earner so the anti gay marriage vicars etc will soon turn around (_;)
banned#27
CReilly
It seems like the govt are just giving clergy the choice which is fine. As long as they don't force anyone to run their place of worship in a particular way. I am not religious myself but I respect the fact that some people believe very strongly and I don't think the state should ever force itself upon religion.


So one church may allow gay marriages, and the one around the corner may not?
Surely that isn't supporting the 'set it stone' rules and morals that most religions teach? Would it be fair to say religion is nothing more than a 'pic & mix ' system nowadays?
banned#28
marriage is a religious ideal. So by a gay couple marrying they are saying hey god we are gay marry us so we can be damned to hell lol
2 Likes #29
Who are we to argue though. To people like me and you organised religion may seem farfetched but to others their whole lives hinge upon it. Religion has been around for millennia and it isn't dissapearing anytime soon. I say let people practise it as, when and how they see fit. We both agree that we don't understand their beliefs - so isn't it madness to impose our own morals and way of thinking against it?!
banned#30
CReilly
Who are we to argue though. To people like me and you organised religion may seem farfetched but to others their whole lives hinge upon it. Religion has been around for millennia and it isn't dissapearing anytime soon. I say let people practise it as, when and how they see fit. We both agree that we don't understand their beliefs - so isn't it madness to impose our own morals and way of thinking against it?!


I was raised a catholic before I saw 'the light'. X)
I, like you, have tolerance to accept that some people will follow religion. I have no problem with people believing in something that I feel to be nothing more than myth.
HOWEVER, my point is simply that with stories like this, religion is taking a hammering at its core in an attempt to go along with a modern society. What are these religions nowadays? Apart from Islam, it seems to me that most religions are either being forced, or are choosing to change their ideals at the drop of a hat.
Is that something worthy of believing in?

To put it simply; if you read the bible, you will be confused as hell in trying to associate modern day christianity to it.

Edited By: JonnyTwoToes on Feb 13, 2011 10:47
#31
Perhaps you're right. the acceptance and practise of religion will always ebb and flow though. A world changing event could just as easily see everyone turning back to strict religion again and undoing the progress (if you can call it that) of the last few hundred years. I'm not sure that this ramble has much of a point other than that I can't begin to understand religion but I do recognise that nothing one person says or does is likely to significantly affect the way people practise it. And that I am 100% against state interference with said practise. Saying that I can see people responding with the whole headscarf debate, what a mess!
banned#32
CReilly
Perhaps you're right. the acceptance and practise of religion will always ebb and flow though. A world changing event could just as easily see everyone turning back to strict religion again and undoing the progress (if you can call it that) of the last few hundred years. I'm not sure that this ramble has much of a point other than that I can't begin to understand religion but I do recognise that nothing one person says or does is likely to significantly affect the way people practise it. And that I am 100% against state interference with said practise. Saying that I can see people responding with the whole headscarf debate, what a mess!


Living as a catholic and later as a christian, I can agree with you point that it possibly won't make to much a difference to anyone with faith. It was never an excuse for me to use the 'leap of faith' idea when confronted with logical science, however it was an easy way out.

What this, and other stories that continue to dilute the importance of religious practice, will do is to affirm to those who do question religion, that they may have a point.
3 Likes #33
Why do people talk about gay people like they are another species?
1 Like #34
i dont see how gay couples getting marries in church is any worse than non christians getting married in church, i know sooooo many peoplw who have gone to church for 6-8 weeks so they can get married there despite having no idea or interest in what is actually going on around them.
banned#35
I don't think many gay people will want to get married in a church.

Most hate religion.
banned#36
nikkib123
Why do people talk about gay people like they are another species?

It is disgusting in 2011 for people to be so narrow-minded.

I can't stand it when people say that something is gay.

How immature.
banned#37
sufcrock123
i dont see how gay couples getting marries in church is any worse than non christians getting married in church, i know sooooo many peoplw who have gone to church for 6-8 weeks so they can get married there despite having no idea or interest in what is actually going on around them.


Because the Bibles' teachings suggest gay marriage is wrong. Makes a farce of christianity as a religion. Which is the point I am trying to make.
1 Like #38
Sorry, I'm against it, Just totally wrong and a contradiction of what religion supposedly teaches.
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JonnyTwoToes
sufcrock123
i dont see how gay couples getting marries in church is any worse than non christians getting married in church, i know sooooo many peoplw who have gone to church for 6-8 weeks so they can get married there despite having no idea or interest in what is actually going on around them.


Because the Bibles' teachings suggest gay marriage is wrong. Makes a farce of christianity as a religion. Which is the point I am trying to make.


Lying is wrong too ;)
#40
JonnyTwoToes
sufcrock123
i dont see how gay couples getting marries in church is any worse than non christians getting married in church, i know sooooo many peoplw who have gone to church for 6-8 weeks so they can get married there despite having no idea or interest in what is actually going on around them.


Because the Bibles' teachings suggest gay marriage is wrong. Makes a farce of christianity as a religion. Which is the point I am trying to make.

Do not lie with a man as one lies with a women’ (Leviticus 20:13)

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