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just wondering if anyone knows any information about getting babies baptised/blessed. my daughters 3months old and i am thinking about getting her baptised but i am not a religious person, my partner… Read More
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
just wondering if anyone knows any information about getting babies baptised/blessed.
my daughters 3months old and i am thinking about getting her baptised but i am not a religious person, my partner is catholic but doesnt go to church but his parents are very religious and i think they would like us to get her baptised aswel, is there such a thing as a blessing which doesnt tie her down to any religion so she can make the choice when shes older.
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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#1
ask a church
if you are not a religous person then why get her baptised?
water on the head doesnt make you follow a religion
it is up to the parents on how they wish to bring the child up

its a religous ceremony so conflicting
she would make up her own mind which religion she follows in the future
#2
Maybe ask your parents in law.

Although tbh shouldn't it be your choice? Well the babies choice really :)
#3
my best friend did it on sunday, i was invited but didnt go, i dont agree with it
#4
I didn't think this went on anymore,surely if its your kid then its your choice what you do
#5
i know its my choice but i dont want to have her christened catholic/christian or any other religion as i am not religious, but i thought it would be nice if they did something like a blessing then when my daughters older she can decide what religion she would like to be if any. i dont agree with making your children go to church and forcing religion on them when they dont want to.
1 Like #6
You need an independent celebrant, you can find a list here: http://www.independentcelebrants.com/

We used one to renew our wedding vows last month.
1 Like #7
tinkerbell28
Yes it's called a naming ceremony. Contact your local register office.


Agreed - its called a naming ceremony and is basically a non religious ceremony that just welcomes your baby to the world.
1 Like #8
If your partner is Catholic an might want her to go to a catholic school, do look up the entry criteria as many catholic schools are very over-subscribed and only baptised catholics will end up getting in. I'm not suggesting you have your baby baptised catholic because of that, just suggesting its something else to consider.
#9
my mum goes to a free church. There you make a promise to bring them up in the christian way.
Each denomaination varies
#10
thanks for all your help and advice , will look into baby naming day.
#11
why get her baptised if your not going to bring her up christian :?
banned#12
Shouldn't get her baptised on the grounds it will please your husbands parents,although on the other hand catholic schools tend to be better than non-catholic ones, but catholic schools, brainwash you from a child when you believe what your told in to believing in God. Learnt this when concluding secondary school and a teacher we had used to show us video's disproving God despite being an RE teacher. The irony :)
#13
ryman1000
Shouldn't get her baptised on the grounds it will please your husbands parents,although on the other hand catholic schools tend to be better than non-catholic ones, but catholic schools, brainwash you from a child when you believe what your told in to believing in God. Learnt this when concluding secondary school and a teacher we had used to show us video's disproving God despite being an RE teacher. The irony :)


thats unfortunate for you but not all schools are like that
i was taught by nuns and a catholic but not praciticing

i have also been confirmed

for those that think its brainwashing are foolish
we were taught about christianity, judism and islam and also non religious kids went to the school

our children have been blessed by a monk we dont practice religion but kinda follow buddhism
banned#14
ryman1000
Shouldn't get her baptised on the grounds it will please your husbands parents,although on the other hand catholic schools tend to be better than non-catholic ones, but catholic schools, brainwash you from a child when you believe what your told in to believing in God. Learnt this when concluding secondary school and a teacher we had used to show us video's disproving God despite being an RE teacher. The irony :)


Controversial:whistling:
#15
britchic4
If your partner is Catholic an might want her to go to a catholic school, do look up the entry criteria as many catholic schools are very over-subscribed and only baptised catholics will end up getting in. I'm not suggesting you have your baby baptised catholic because of that, just suggesting its something else to consider.


Got to say sadly I have to agree, some of the best schools are catholic and it's a given now that the children accepted have to be baptised catholics, my children went to one and were better educated as a result and the pastoral care was second to none, despite us being non catholic. I don't think for one moment they would get in now though.
#16
sancho1983
Maybe ask your parents in law.

Although tbh shouldn't it be your choice? Well the babies choice really :)


That's one smart 3 month year old kid.
#17
ryman1000
Shouldn't get her baptised on the grounds it will please your husbands parents,although on the other hand catholic schools tend to be better than non-catholic ones, but catholic schools, brainwash you from a child when you believe what your told in to believing in God. Learnt this when concluding secondary school and a teacher we had used to show us video's disproving God despite being an RE teacher. The irony :)


not ironic at all, RE is Religious education they have to teach you about all aspects of religion including atheism, not all RE teachers are religious anyway
#18
jasonrat
thats unfortunate for you but not all schools are like that
i was taught by nuns and a catholic but not praciticing

i have also been confirmed

for those that think its brainwashing are foolish
we were taught about christianity, judism and islam and also non religious kids went to the school



That's pretty much my experience too in primary and secondary catholic schools.
banned#19
jasonrat
thats unfortunate for you but not all schools are like that
i was taught by nuns and a catholic but not praciticing

i have also been confirmed

for those that think its brainwashing are foolish
we were taught about christianity, judism and islam and also non religious kids went to the school

our children have been blessed by a monk we dont practice religion but kinda follow buddhism


I don't mean in the sense they harshly force you into believing it, and I to was taught about Islam and other religions but they just tell you about them not asking you to believe them. If from the age of 5 to 16 your told that christianity is the right religion to choose and say prayers, sing hymns everyday especially when in primary school, when you believe everything that is told to you is correct your more than likely to believe it. Although other religions are taught they are vague and rarely focused on. The bad parts of the bible like Genesis are ignored in the curriculum - I wonder why. I'm telling you this first hand still in education what it is like. Don't take this the wrong way but you can't tell me what it is like based on what your children say, all schools are the same and only allow other religions in based on the fact that it is the politicaly correct thing to do and theres was only 1 Hindu and 1 Greek orthodox out of 250 people. An example being in mass they just expect you to take the bread, or they just expec you to be confirmed, coming in the class and saying your in this group for classes your confirmation is on such and such. I don't want to turn this into an atheist vs Christian debate but just voicing from my experience what it's like :thumbsup:
#20
watugot
my best friend did it on sunday, i was invited but didnt go, i dont agree with it


thats quite sad really as i have many friends of different religions and beliefs that i dont always agree with but they are my friends and i do respect their beliefs as they respect mine and i would have been there for them regardless.
#21
i wolud expect from being taught at a catholic school that you would be taught about the catholic faith more so than any faiths.
genesis is from the old testament and is hardly used in the catholic beliefs its more so from the new testament
as for taking the bread we couldnt take it until we were confirmed
banned#22
jasonrat
i wolud expect from being taught at a catholic school that you would be taught about the catholic faith more so than any faiths.
genesis is from the old testament and is hardly used in the catholic beliefs its more so from the new testament
as for taking the bread we couldnt take it until we were confirmed


But because you were confirmed doesn't mean you still believe in it. The old testament is ignored as it isn't as "nice" for christians to read and is likely to provoke more questioning into what people rare being taught
#23
do it. keeps inlaws happy and gets u into good schools. if baby decided later she doenst wanna be catholic then fair play. shes not signing a contract!
#24
ryman1000
But because you were confirmed doesn't mean you still believe in it. The old testament is ignored as it isn't as "nice" for christians to read and is likely to provoke more questioning into what people rare being taught


but the old testament is a different kettle of fish
i believe its based for judism and their teachings
banned#25
jasonrat
but the old testament is a different kettle of fish
i believe its based for judism and their teachings


The old testament is what God said the new testament what Jesus said, both based part of christianity

Jesus made it painfully obvious that you cannot believe in Him if, for any reason youreject the words of Moses – beginning in Genesis! But christians still ignore because of modern science and the fact of evolution.
#26
but we are talking about different religions with different beliefs and teachings.
although all religion is based on the same family
banned#27
jasonrat
but we are talking about different religions with different beliefs and teachings.
although all religion is based on the same family


But the old testament is to do with Christianity
#28
yes thats why i wasnt taught it as a catholic:thumbsup:
banned#29
jasonrat
yes thats why i wasnt taught it as a catholic:thumbsup:


Why's it in the bible then ?
#30
ryman1000
The old testament is what God said the new testament what Jesus said.


:whistling:
#31
If you were married (in a church) you would have had to agree to her being baptised into the Catholic faith. I guess you're not married, or not in a Catholic Church at any rate. The registry office do 'Naming Ceremonies' but really it's just an excuse for a party. Depends on your belief/partner's beliefs. I'm Catholic, hubby's not, but we married in Church, and he knew the score (and happily too), all our sproglings are baptised Catholics as I believe this is essential... a naming ceremony wouldn't have done it for me, but then I wouldn't have been happy marrying in a registry office either - each to their own - I'm more religious than I feel on that front. Talk to your partner - maybe he feels stronger deep down than he really lets on.
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sorry to bring a little 'downcast' view however a lot of people want to neglect or not acknowledge any religion and then when something happens they have a funeral in church. That doesnt make sense :roll:
Obviously the baby cannot make a choice at such at young age and you cannot 'force' a religion however you can help instill faith into a child and the beauty of faith is that it shares many good things amongst religions (hope, forgiveness, love, compassion..etc) . Just because parents are atheists why choose for the child to be atheist too?
Knowledge is power, if the baby grows up let's say in a catholic environment (IMO offer better ethics than nothing) they would still learn about other religions and when he / she is older enough to understand they can 'change' or renounce religion but at least you have guided them.
#33
Bikebarbie
sorry to bring a little 'downcast' view however a lot of people want to neglect or not acknowledge any religion and then when something happens they have a funeral in church. That doesnt make sense :roll:
Obviously the baby cannot make a choice at such at young age and you cannot 'force' a religion however you can help instill faith into a child and the beauty of faith is that it shares many good things amongst religions (hope, forgiveness, love, compassion..etc) . Just because parents are atheists why choose for the child to be atheist too?
Knowledge is power, if the baby grows up let's say in a catholic environment (IMO offer better ethics than nothing) they would still learn about other religions and when he / she is older enough to understand they can 'change' or renounce religion but at least you have guided them.


Repped!
#34
Bikebarbie
sorry to bring a little 'downcast' view however a lot of people want to neglect or not acknowledge any religion and then when something happens they have a funeral in church. That doesnt make sense :roll:
Obviously the baby cannot make a choice at such at young age and you cannot 'force' a religion however you can help instill faith into a child and the beauty of faith is that it shares many good things amongst religions (hope, forgiveness, love, compassion..etc) . Just because parents are atheists why choose for the child to be atheist too?
Knowledge is power, if the baby grows up let's say in a catholic environment (IMO offer better ethics than nothing) they would still learn about other religions and when he / she is older enough to understand they can 'change' or renounce religion but at least you have guided them.

Everything you've said could be applied to atheism, bring the child up as a atheist and let it make its own mind up when its able to understand the concept.
You can teach a child hope, forgiveness, love and compassion etc without wrapping it up in religion. They're not religious exclusives.
#35
Oh and to the OP, i've been a "nominated adult" at a naming ceremony and it was a very nice occasion. Carried out at the registry office they had poems/readings. very informal and laid back.
banned#36
Bikebarbie
sorry to bring a little 'downcast' view however a lot of people want to neglect or not acknowledge any religion and then when something happens they have a funeral in church. That doesnt make sense :roll:
Obviously the baby cannot make a choice at such at young age and you cannot 'force' a religion however you can help instill faith into a child and the beauty of faith is that it shares many good things amongst religions (hope, forgiveness, love, compassion..etc) . Just because parents are atheists why choose for the child to be atheist too?
Knowledge is power, if the baby grows up let's say in a catholic environment (IMO offer better ethics than nothing) they would still learn about other religions and when he / she is older enough to understand they can 'change' or renounce religion but at least you have guided them.


But you don't need to be a catholic to teach a child to be good and treat others with respect, and by making them believe God by scaring them about hell. Santa clause delivering parcels round the world is ridicolous right, but God talking to millions of people at the same time is totally rational :?
banned#37
An interesting short movie which can be looked at from both sides http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l7_jUxf0Do&feature=related

Im going to stop with the whole atheist thingy, I'm probably peeing a few of you off, and sorry about thread jacking.
1 Like #38
Goonieman
Everything you've said could be applied to atheism, bring the child up as a atheist and let it make its own mind up when its able to understand the concept.
You can teach a child hope, forgiveness, love and compassion etc without wrapping it up in religion. They're not religious exclusives.


fair enough but the more and more atheism has replaced christianity in this country the less respect and love there generally is. surely this points out that religion does form some sort of moral groundings for individuals.

not sayig religious ppl dont do bad things..... of course they do.... u got mad people like fundamentalists, or those who pretend to be religious to lure others into a false sense pf security etc etc..... but the less religious its become the morse society has fallen.
#39
magicbeans
fair enough but the more and more atheism has replaced christianity in this country the less respect and love there generally is. surely this points out that religion does form some sort of moral groundings for individuals.

not sayig religious ppl dont do bad things..... of course they do.... u got mad people like fundamentalists, or those who pretend to be religious to lure others into a false sense pf security etc etc..... but the less religious its become the morse society has fallen.



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[mod]#40
Everyones a Preacher in this thread. :-D

Those who are religious preach it's virtues............those who aren't preach the nonsense angle.

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