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Glasgow Free School Bus Election Proposal

Geezso Avatar
6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
Living in Glasgow, the Lib Dems for one are proposing returning more free school buses to the school pupils.

What im wondering is what are we going to miss out on, pay more tax on or whatever instead of the bus situation staying the same.

I know, all those years ago, I walked to school, as did my family, friends and even parents.

Granted pupils from outwith walking distance did travel by bus (if not car) but it certainly wasnt free, they all had transcards/pre payed passes
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6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
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#1
they can't promise this in a general election as education and transport are devolved to the scottish parliament.
#2
dcx_badass
Doesn't matter does it? Us in England will end up paying for it. Meanwhile ours still won't be free.


how do u come to that conclusion
#3
ants97
they can't promise this in a general election as education and transport are devolved to the scottish parliament.


^^^^^ this
#4
ants97
they can't promise this in a general election as education and transport are devolved to the scottish parliament.


Too long to post, but the title says it all. Just something i seen

http://www.joswinson.org.uk/news/001119/liberal_democrats_determined_to_reverse_school_bus_cuts.html
#5
bossyboots
how do u come to that conclusion


Thats what 'they' always say.
#6
Geezso
Thats what 'they' always say.


huh? do u mean the English moaning about good things in Scotland?!
#7
dcx_badass
Doesn't matter does it? Us in England will end up paying for it. Meanwhile ours still won't be free.


Have you ever considered working out the facts for yourself, or are you just comfortable with whatever knee-jerk reaction suits your existing un-analysed prejudices?

If you really want to talk about the different contributions and demands of our regional economies, lets start with the subject of North Sea oil.:thumbsup:
#8
Jeezeypeeps
Have you ever considered working out the facts for yourself, or are you just comfortable with whatever knee-jerk reaction suits your existing un-analysed prejudices?

If you really want to talk about the different contributions and demands of our regional economies, lets start with the subject of North Sea oil.:thumbsup:


He still hasnt explained it!! Why does he think that this service in Scotland will be paid for by the people in England :lol: We have our own parliament!
#9
Geezso
Too long to post, but the title says it all. Just something i seen

http://www.joswinson.org.uk/news/001119/liberal_democrats_determined_to_reverse_school_bus_cuts.html


the lib dems havn't promised free school buses in any election promise. All jo swinson has done is back the lib dem group on east dunbartonshire council who oppose the tory/labour plans to cut the free bus service. It is not an election promise by the lib dems.
#10
bossyboots
huh? do u mean the English moaning about good things in Scotland?!


Yes, sorry i was awy there. We do have our own parliment and news.

Dont they notice when its always, In england and wales. Poor wales in englands lapdog
#11
ants97
the lib dems havn't promised free school buses in any election promise. All jo swinson has done is back the lib dem group on east dunbartonshire council who oppose the tory/labour plans to cut the free bus service. It is not an election promise by the lib dems.


Well only if i had the piece of recyclable paper that came through my door. I just pulled that site off google.

She said free buses when shes in
#12
Geezso
Well only if i had the piece of recyclable paper that came through my door. I just pulled that site off google.

She said free buses when shes in


well she can't and she wont.
#13
Jeezeypeeps
Have you ever considered working out the facts for yourself, or are you just comfortable with whatever knee-jerk reaction suits your existing un-analysed prejudices?

If you really want to talk about the different contributions and demands of our regional economies, lets start with the subject of North Sea oil.:thumbsup:


Yeah maybe we should keep all our hundreds of millions of barrels and aution them off around the world.
#14
ants97
well she can't and she wont.


Hopefully your right, and she doesnt get back in. But for you to say that she cant and wont do with her budget or whatever it is is bold. I hope you are right, cause simple things like roads need upgrading before you put non profit busses on it.
#15
Geezso
Hopefully your right, and she doesnt get back in. But for you to say that she cant and wont do with her budget or whatever it is is bold. I hope you are right, cause simple things like roads need upgrading before you put non profit busses on it.


she is being elected to westminster who do not have any say in offering free buses to school kids. She cannot promise any of these thing in a westminster election.
#16
dcx_badass
Really have no idea what you are talking about, google it, more is spent per person in scotland than in England from tax even though we pay the same amount.


From tax alone? Doesnt the north east of england i.e.NEWCASTLE get approx 25% than the eastern and more stil (slightly) than south east?

Im only asking, im not quoting anything.

I only asked about buses
[helper]#17
dcx_badass
Really have no idea what you are talking about, google it, more is spent per person in scotland than in England from tax even though we pay the same amount.

I believe your correct but you also have to remember that the England (especially the South East) has a far greater share of things like central government jobs and it benefits from things like the Olympics. If Scotland does spend money on more "frivolous" innitiatives it means less money for things like Education and Health. The health service is worse in Scotland (than England) maybe as a consequence of things like free prescriptions.

As for the oil - I think most of it is in Shetlands territory and last I heard they didn't want anything to do with an independent Scotland. Even if you do take them into account the oil revenues probably cancel out the additional money that Scotland gets.

The bus idea is terrible - what about childhood obesity and lack of exercise? Buses aren't likely to help.
#18
gari189
I believe your correct but you also have to remember that the England (especially the South East) has a far greater share of things like central government jobs and it benefits from things like the Olympics. If Scotland does spend money on more "frivolous" innitiatives it means less money for things like Education and Health. The health service is worse in Scotland (than England) maybe as a consequence of things like free prescriptions.

As for the oil - I think most of it is in Shetlands territory and last I heard they didn't want anything to do with an independent Scotland. Even if you do take them into account the oil revenues probably cancel out the additional money that Scotland gets.

The bus idea is terrible - what about childhood obesity and lack of exercise? Buses aren't likely to help.


They are going down the free scripts route here, down to £3 per item or £13 i think for a 3 month pre-pay (unlimited basically) where is the sense in that.

The health service as a hole, is a hole. There are exeptions granted, and there are also exceptions in bad hospitals. For instance (not to go on, and dont intend any feedback on this) Glasgow Southern whatever its rep as there is so many mixed reviews on health care has some great fantasticly clean and well maintained wards, well trained staff and offer a real top notch service (like you imagine from certain tv shows). Where as a hospital north of the city (both infact) is hopeless, dirty, bloody and the picture paints itself in my experience.

But they say that cutting buses are bad for the environment. Either they think the ''chelsea tractors'' are gonna roll up or some MP's brother has just won a contract for bio fuel buses or the like

Rant over
#19
dcx_badass
Doesn't matter does it? Us in England will end up paying for it. Meanwhile ours still won't be free.


Ohhhhh you shouldn't have said that, you may cause offence and have the Scots gang up on you as one of "them" Oh wait...........:|

Seriously thought it's a crazy idea, just shows how the lib dems are living in cuckoo land.
#20
Geezso
They are going down the free scripts route here, down to £3 per item or £13 i think for a 3 month pre-pay (unlimited basically) where is the sense in that.

The health service as a hole, is a hole. There are exeptions granted, and there are also exceptions in bad hospitals. For instance (not to go on, and dont intend any feedback on this) Glasgow Southern whatever its rep as there is so many mixed reviews on health care has some great fantasticly clean and well maintained wards, well trained staff and offer a real top notch service (like you imagine from certain tv shows). Where as a hospital north of the city (both infact) is hopeless, dirty, bloody and the picture paints itself in my experience.

But they say that cutting buses are bad for the environment. Either they think the ''chelsea tractors'' are gonna roll up or some MP's brother has just won a contract for bio fuel buses or the like

Rant over


everything you have just mentioned is a devolved matter for the scottish parliament and everything labour, the lib dems and the tories promise about health care and transport in this general election has no relevance whatsoever north of the border.
#21
ants97
everything you have just mentioned is a devolved matter for the scottish parliament and everything labour, the lib dems and the tories promise about health care and transport in this general election has no relevance whatsoever north of the border.


I wasnt talking about that politically i was responding to another post. Just commenting, thats all. I have no interest what so ever in the above mentioned, politically.
#22
ants97
everything you have just mentioned is a devolved matter for the scottish parliament and everything labour, the lib dems and the tories promise about health care and transport in this general election has no relevance whatsoever north of the border.


Is your political affiliation lib dem per chance?

I only ask, because you reply to these comments with such educated and passionate reponses
#23
actually,free school buses in Scotland are a matter for individual local councils-absolutely nothing to do with westminster,or the Scottish parliament-some councils have them(mine does) and some spend the money elsewhere.

no prospective westminster mp can promise free schoolbuses,because it isnt in their power to do so.
#24
I thought there were always school buses - but it is called 'public transport'. I went to school outside ofthe borough i lived in and had to catch the bus to school and paid the fare (10p back then)
#25
i'd love there to be free school buses (or even more paid busses with school routes) here in england. i live 2.9 miles from my daughter secondary school and she has to leave the house at just before 7.30 in the morning to catch the two public buses to get to school on time (8.45!) it's ridiculous! there is no school bus service near me :(
she can't cycle because the route she would have to go is very busy and quite dangerous and i wouldn't like my 13 year old walking nearly 6 miles a day to go to school especially in the winter when it gets dark early, Arrrrgh it makes me mad!
#26
missp27
i'd love there to be free school buses (or even more paid busses with school routes) here in england. i live 2.9 miles from my daughter secondary school and she has to leave the house at just before 7.30 in the morning to catch the two public buses to get to school on time (8.45!) it's ridiculous! there is no school bus service near me :(
she can't cycle because the route she would have to go is very busy and quite dangerous and i wouldn't like my 13 year old walking nearly 6 miles a day to go to school especially in the winter when it gets dark early, Arrrrgh it makes me mad!


would be illegal here btw-if the road is dangerous/busy the council would send a taxi to pick her up!
#27
barky
would be illegal here btw-if the road is dangerous/busy the council would send a taxi to pick her up!


well at the moment i'm lucky because she has been given free buss passes so it doesn't cost me anything. i only get that though because at the moment i'm out of work (as it's JUST under 3 miles) i'm a bit concerned that when i do find a job (i am actively job hunting at the moment) i will have to pay for all of these buses which will be very expensive so will probably have to move closer to the school which i don't really want to do as i love my house!
some of the way does have cycle paths but the bit that doesn't is past my towns hospital which is completely clogged with traffic much of the time. i just feel sorry for her having to leave so early to get to school and not coming home till quite late. no child of 13 should have to travel for 2 and a half hours a day to go to school, especially for only a journey just under 3 miles :x

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