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Going round a roundabout, surely its not that hard!!

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As a professional driver I see poor driving on an hourly basis. But I have to get this off my chest, one thing that really gets my goat is useless drivers that cannot go round a roundabout correctly,… Read More
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banned9y, 8m agoPosted 9 years, 8 months ago
As a professional driver I see poor driving on an hourly basis. But I have to get this off my chest, one thing that really gets my goat is useless drivers that cannot go round a roundabout correctly, with the correct entrance and exit indication (if any)

Now on a standard 4 exit roundabout.
1. Going straight accross the roundabout
Enter the roundabout in the left hand lane, following the outside of the roundabout, indicate left immediately after the 1st exit, take the 2nd exit.

2. Turning Left
Begin indicating left before entering the roundabout. Enter the roundabout in the left hand lane, following the outside of the roundabout and take the 1st exit.

3. Turning right
Begin indicating right before entering the roundabout. Enter the roundabout in the right hand lane, following the inside of the roundabout. After the 2nd exit (straight on exit) change indication, indicating left to exit, move into the outside lane, following the outside of the roundabout. Take the 3rd exit.

Obviously all of these manoeuvres should follow the mirror, signal, manoeuvre (MSM) procedure.

Now I ask you, is it really that difficult. The only reason I ask is trying to get a large 60ft lorry onto a roundabout in the 1st place is hard enough, but saddo's that cant be bothered to indicate their intentions correctly make it so much harder. Or even worse, don't even bother indicating at all.

OK, I have got that off my chest. Any additional poor driving habits will be greatly laughed at..... :-D
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#1
Some roundabouts are easier than others - what about this one
http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm

Two ways to approach this - eyes closed or ignore the big picture and just treat each roundabout individually......
banned#2
Now see the magic roundabout is easier than most think. Its just about picturing it in your head where you want to go, and navigating as about in succession. Try taking a HGV round it, its great lots of people get of the way really quickly!!!
#3
Been nearly caught out a few times on duel carriageways with drivers wanting to go right at a roundabout and taking the left hand approach lane when I'm on the inside and wanting to go stright on. :x
#4
The one that really p...es me off are the idiots at the mini roundabout who indicate right then drives straight ahead.... aggggggh
#5
cuzzy
The one that really p...es me off are the idiots at the mini roundabout who indicate right then drives straight ahead.... aggggggh


Not as much fun as watching three unsure drivers at a mini roundabout ALL waiting for the others to make a move first :)
banned#6
stora
Not as much fun as watching three unsure drivers at a mini roundabout ALL waiting for the others to make a move first :)


oooo, thats a good one, I always just keep driving and leave them all to it.
banned#7
What do we all feel about middle lane hoggers on the motorway? Usually doing around 45 mph
#8
Just a thought. Why do they have to put pedestrian crossings straight after a roundabout.
Tt's bad enough watching the other drivers and looking for your exit without the surprise of someone crossing the road as your indicating to come off the junction.
#9
UltimoScorpion
What do we all feel about middle lane hoggers on the motorway? Usually doing around 45 mph

They should be shot!!!:w00t:
#10
UltimoScorpion
What do we all feel about middle lane hoggers on the motorway? Usually doing around 45 mph

should be force fed to starving crocs!!!!!!!!!
#11
I swear the weather makes people bad drivers. Look at conditions today, bit of rain and wind and everyone starts driving like complete pillocks.
#12
lynothehammer
I swear the weather makes people bad drivers. Look at conditions today, bit of rain and wind and everyone starts driving like complete pillocks.

Live in Scotland mate it becomes a national pastime
#13
oh got one......
Muppets that speed up when you overtake 'em (usually the aformentioned middle lane hoggers!)
banned#14
stora
Just a thought. Why do they have to put pedestrian crossings straight after a roundabout.
Tt's bad enough watching the other drivers and looking for your exit without the surprise of someone crossing the road as your indicating to come off the junction.



The practical answer is because a roundabout is usually at a point where pedestrians need to cross the road. However the common sense answer is because the guy that designed the road layout is obvoiusly the same pillock that is navigating roundabouts without indicating and occupying the middle lane of the motorway for no apparent reason. :w00t:
#15
Hah...funny you should point out **** driving. About 2 hours ago i was pulling out of my fairly narrow road and turning right into another fairly narrow road. Within the angle of my turn (about 10 metres from the end of my road) a B.S.M driving school car had got one of his pupils to pull over - into the path of oncoming traffic (me!). About 2 miles later an oncoming car - also being instructed by B.S.M - was indicating right (to cut across my path) However, it was so far into the gutter i thought it was parked - i mean there was about 2 metres between the side of the car and the broken white centre line. Yes... i know we all need guidance when learning to drive, but with instruction like i have witnessed today from B.S.M - it is no wonder that so many people who hold a full license have such diabolically bad driving habits (also makes me glad that i didn't learn with B.S.M - they're a rip off who only seem to teach people how to pass the test - not how to drive):x ....Ah I feel better now:-D
banned#16
jennybubbles
oh got one......
Muppets that speed up when you overtake 'em (usually the aformentioned middle lane hoggers!)


Now that is a good one....how about those that wait at green traffic lights!! I mean what are they waiting for blue? :-D
#17
or the ones that fly down a lane thats gonna close in 100 yards or so due to roadworks and force their way into the patiantly waiting traffic!!!
banned#18
jelli89
B.S.M:-D


The thing is why do the always learn during peak times?
banned#19
jennybubbles
or the ones that fly down a lane thats gonna close in 100 yards or so due to roadworks and force their way into the patiantly waiting traffic!!!


Or in queing traffic on a motorway that clearly goes down to one lane and they cut in front. Hmmmmm
#20
UltimoScorpion
The thing is why do the always learn during peak times?

An endurance test maybe?:?
banned#21
UltimoScorpion
As a professional driver I see poor driving on an hourly basis. But I have to get this off my chest, one thing that really gets my goat is useless drivers that cannot go round a roundabout correctly, with the correct entrance and exit indication (if any)

Now on a standard 4 exit roundabout.
1. Going straight accross the roundabout
Enter the roundabout in the left hand lane, following the outside of the roundabout, indicate left immediately after the 1st exit, take the 2nd exit.

2. Turning Left
Begin indicating left before entering the roundabout. Enter the roundabout in the left hand lane, following the outside of the roundabout and take the 1st exit.

3. Turning right
Begin indicating right before entering the roundabout. Enter the roundabout in the right hand lane, following the inside of the roundabout. After the 2nd exit (straight on exit) change indication, indicating left to exit, move into the outside lane, following the outside of the roundabout. Take the 3rd exit.

Obviously all of these manoeuvres should follow the mirror, signal, manoeuvre (MSM) procedure.

Now I ask you, is it really that difficult. The only reason I ask is trying to get a large 60ft lorry onto a roundabout in the 1st place is hard enough, but saddo's that cant be bothered to indicate their intentions correctly make it so much harder. Or even worse, don't even bother indicating at all.

OK, I have got that off my chest. Any additional poor driving habits will be greatly laughed at..... :-D


What really gets my goat up is the 50.14212% (approx) of lorry drivers who drive poorly on a motorway and we're talking straight roads here!!

Just how many lorry drivers do you see tail to tail, minor insignificant gap relying on the driver in front not braking suddenly.

Sorry I couldn't be ersed to type out the full instructions required to perform such a maneouvre successfully :whistling:
banned#22
jennybubbles
oh got one......
Muppets that speed up when you overtake 'em (usually the aformentioned middle lane hoggers!)



The thing is with this one when driving a lorry is that we lorries are limited in our speed to 56mph. Once we reach this speed we cannot go any faster so if they speed up it means we cannot and have to fall back in behind them. They usually then slow down again, once again you pull out to overtake and they speed up again......trust me they get a full blast of the fog horn when I get level with them (should see the startled look on their faces) :w00t:
banned#23
aScottishBloke
What really gets my goat up is the 50.14212% (approx) of lorry drivers who drive poorly on a motorway and we're talking straight roads here!!

Just how many lorry drivers do you see tail to tail, minor insignificant gap relying on the driver in front not braking suddenly.

Sorry I couldn't be ersed to type out the full instructions required to perform such a maneouvre successfully :whistling:


Mostly because we are limited to a certain speed, but different companies limit their vehicles to different speeds. This means that we have to stay behind the vehicle in front (a) for as long as possible whilst all the car drivers that wont let you pull out go past (b) dont pull out to soon, as all the impatient car drivers that pull into the inside lane, overtake you on your blind side (and we cant see you on the inside) then pull in front of you (c) pull out too soon so when we do finally pass the other lorry we get a torrent of abuse from the impatient car drivers that have lost a millisecond from their journey time.
#24
remember they are not called fast lanes etc on motorways, they are simply overtaking lanes, lol
Im not a middlelane hogger, that is one thing that annoys me.Also driver who drive so close to your back bumper!
banned#25
It's totally dangerous to tailgate in the manners that most truckers do. Yes, mostly to each other, but they do not have full vision and fall back a safe distance. It will only add a short period onto your own journey will it not ?

Anyway, blasting your horn to show discontent/frustration is well out of order and contravenes the highway code.

Gad to get that off ma chest...;)
#26
why is it always the guy in the clapped out 20 year old fiat panda with 3 or 4 screaming kids squeezed in the back that pulls out in front of me, when driving a 7.5 tonner loaded with 4 horses then wonders why when i have had to stand on the brake, listen to 4 horses hit the partitions, i sound the horn and scream at him :S
#27
UltimoScorpion
Mostly because we are limited to a certain speed, but different companies limit their vehicles to different speeds. This means that we have to stay behind the vehicle in front (a) for as long as possible whilst all the car drivers that wont let you pull out go past (b) dont pull out to soon, as all the impatient car drivers that pull into the inside lane, overtake you on your blind side (and we cant see you on the inside) then pull in front of you (c) pull out too soon so when we do finally pass the other lorry we get a torrent of abuse from the impatient car drivers that have lost a millisecond from their journey time.

And the reason for racing each other and completely blocking both lanes for about 3 miles until one of you actually gets in front? Boredom innit? No lies cos I can tell:p

Now on a standard 4 exit roundabout.
1. Going straight accross the roundabout
Enter the roundabout in the left hand lane, following the outside of the roundabout, indicate left immediately after the 1st exit, take the 2nd exit.


Roundabout on a dual carriageway....?
#28
Living in milton keynes... roundabouts are everywhere and yes people are complete idiots on them sometimes
banned#29
aScottishBloke
It's totally dangerous to tailgate in the manners that most truckers do. Yes, mostly to each other, but they do not have full vision and fall back a safe distance. It will only add a short period onto your own journey will it not ?

Anyway, blasting your horn to show discontent/frustration is well out of order and contravenes the highway code.

Gad to get that off ma chest...;)


Trust me they need it to wake them up....they are usually nodding off and they really do not realise that they are driving poorly
banned#30
How about the muppets that dont use the slip road of a motorway to speed up to the traffic speed of that on the carriageway. I swear I have actually seen a driver give way at the dotted line at the end of a motorway slip (and I mean stop, look over the shoulder, wait for a gap in the traffic then set off!!)
banned#31
I'm only quoting the Highway Code because I read it every night and am without a shadow of a doubt the UK's best driver
banned#32
lol, so what really p1ssed you off today then UltimoScorpion, any incidents to report ?
banned#33
Shengis
And the reason for racing each other and completely blocking both lanes for about 3 miles until one of you actually gets in front? Boredom innit? No lies cos I can tell:p


Aaa haa! This is not the fault of the overtaking driver. The driver that is being overtaken, should give way to the overtaking driver and if he is taking too long to overtake they should slow and allow them to pull back in. We are taught that during our lessons. However most lorry drivers dont do this because at the weekends they occupy middle lanes in their cars and navigate roundabouts with no apparent direction!!!
#34
gari189
Some roundabouts are easier than others - what about this one
http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm

Two ways to approach this - eyes closed or ignore the big picture and just treat each roundabout individually......



We also have one of these roundabouts in Hemel Hempstead, they really aren't as scary as they look - although I know a few locals who will drive miles to avoid it!

The thing I hate is people using mobiles - it drives me mad!!!!
#35
I think the worse driver that I nearly ran into was when I was accelerating down a motorway slip road to join the motorway.

Looked in my left hand mirror to see if I could see a gap.
Glanced over my shoulder just in case there was someone in my blind spot.
All the while indicating and accelerating to join the traffic speed.

Looked up.

Oh $%^& the idiot in front of me on the slip road had stopped dead because they thought there was no gap in the traffic. :w00t:

Took us both ages to join the motorway from a standing start at the edge of the slip road. :x
#36
Read the title and thought it was a thread about women drivers.:giggle:
banned#37
aScottishBloke
I'm only quoting the Highway Code because I read it every night and am without a shadow of a doubt the UK's best driver



I'm not doubting your knowledge of the highway code, however it does state that you can use your horn to warn people that you are there (make them aware of your presence for safety), and that is why I do it to those muppets that wont let me pass them, just letting them know I am there)
banned#38
aScottishBloke
lol, so what really p1ssed you off today then UltimoScorpion, any incidents to report ?


13 hour shift (usually 7-8 hours) and its a killer, the poor driving skills on britains roads just grind you after 13 hours straight :roll:
banned#39
stora
I think the worse driver that I nearly ran into was when I was accelerating down a motorway slip road to join the motorway.

Looked in my left hand mirror to see if I could see a gap.
Glanced over my shoulder just in case there was someone in my blind spot.
All the while indicating and accelerating to join the traffic speed.

Looked up.

Oh $%^& the idiot in front of me on the slip road had stopped dead because they thought there was no gap in the traffic. :w00t:

Took us both ages to join the motorway from a standing start at the edge of the slip road. :x


you were probably behind me and previous driver comment, I spun round and used the hard shoulder to speed up in, could not believe it
banned#40
GAVINLEWISHUKD
Read the title and thought it was a thread about women drivers.:giggle:


No just **** ones, men , women, children, dogs, whatever takes your fancy really

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