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Gordon, savior of the planet

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banned8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
Cos Gordon Brown came up with a novel rescue plan for the banks of the UK, where he buys a stake in the company to bail them out to the tune of £50bn. The rest of the world has followed his example in the credit crunch by doing the same to their banks. The US has taken £250bn of its £700bn rescue package to do the same (they were originally gonna just buy the bad debts of these banks, til Gordon came along)

So what do you think? Is Gordon Brown the savior of the world, or you still gonna vote for cameron?
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banned8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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banned#1
I'll rather vote for Cameron if I were in the UK
banned#2
Hiya FC, hope you are doing good buddy
banned#3
Dell_in_the_bed
Hiya FC, hope you are doing good buddy


Hey dude.........missing our favourite girl, but otherwise dandy matey :thumbsup:
#4
It'll be a cold day in Hell before I'd vote the Tories back in. Regardless who heads the pack, they're completely out of touch with those of us who work for a living.
#5
Xb0xGuru
It'll be a cold day in Hell before I'd vote the Tories back in. Regardless who heads the pack, they're completely out of touch with those of us who work for a living.



Spot on, can you imagine how they would(n't) have handled this Global mess.
banned#6
So what do you think? Is Gordon Brown the savior of the world, or you still gonna vote for cameron?


Neither. He is not the saviour of the world, not is there a chance in hell I would vote for Cameron.
banned#7
Neither really appeal, but Brown has more experience. Cameron is a bit of a nob, and gets caught out telling porkies etc.

Browns rescue plan has not actually worked yet, we could still see massive problems for this country, and be saddled with the debt of the bail out
#8
Xb0xGuru
It'll be a cold day in Hell before I'd vote the Tories back in. Regardless who heads the pack, they're completely out of touch with those of us who work for a living.


I agree with your comments, absolutely! :thumbsup:

"Better the devil you know?" With Gordon Brown (to whom I think; he's not great leadership material); that said I think he was a great Chancellor and would trust him with our ecomony instead of Cameron any day! I see/view Cameron as a leader lacking substance.

The state of the economy is not all Gordon Brown's fault, as it's Global. The rest of the world's countries are following Gordies example (not a bad idea - me thinks) can't be that bad after all then, eh?
#9
At long last the shallow types who wrote Gordon off are eating their words I hope. I was beginning to think we were all supposed to judge a book by it's cover. The personalities are just not relevant, it's the skills that are vital expecially now.

I admire him for sticking to his guns and not accepting the makeovers and polish. He is not a hero, just a man doing a difficult job like most. But we do have to give the PR people something to talk about to justify their existences........is this Gordon's Falklands?

Total pish
#10
Nash
I agree with your comments, absolutely! :thumbsup:

"Better the devil you know?" With Gordon Brown (to whom I think; he's not great leadership material); that said I think he was a great Chancellor and would trust him with our ecomony instead of Cameron any day! I see/view Cameron as a leader lacking substance.

The state of the economy is not all Gordon Brown's fault, as it's Global. The rest of the world's countries are following Gordies example (not a bad idea - me thinks) can't be that bad after all then, eh?


on that comment how on earth can you say that you trust him with the economy...when labour came into power.....the economy's strength was on an upward turn from a really negative period..so essentially he was just onto a good thing cos very little could go wrong..and you could say that really lax rules and banking procedures then has led us to this today.....................

The state of the worlds economy of course isnt gordon browns fault at all.....its a combination of banking procedures across the whole world and GREED....profit profit profit.....that was it...profit and that greed of making profit led to people taking more and more and more risk....just to get a big fat juicy bonus.

and surely not the first big bail out was in america? it wasnt gordon brown who bailed out anyone........up until recently...they nationalised banks and sold bits and pieces to santander......
#11
As much as I can't stand labour, I must admit, I praise Gordon Brown at the moment.
#12
hawkio
on that comment how on earth can you say that you trust him with the economy...when labour came into power.....the economy's strength was on an upward turn from a really negative period..so essentially he was just onto a good thing cos very little could go wrong..and you could say that really lax rules and banking procedures then has led us to this today.


That's such a one-sided view as to where we were over 11 years ago.

I'll remind you, in case you forgot.

1. The Tories were planning on scrapping the NHS and making everyone pay for their health. The amount of money they were putting into public services was getting less and less - why do you think Brown had to inject billions into the service just to keep it running?
2. There was no such thing as a minimum wage or minimum weekly earnings via family tax credits. Business were able to hold staff to 'ransom' on wages as little as £1 an hour.
3. The Government controlled the rate of Interest and normally did so against the advice of the Bank of England. When it was near election time, they would intentionally keep it low to win votes.
4. Pensioners were not given a winter fuel allowance, meaning an alarmingly high number died through something as simple as not having enough money to keep themselves warm.
5. Let's not forget the word 'sleaze' was invented for Tory MPs. 'The New Statesman' was extremely close to the truth!

What the Tories did was create a 'surface wealth' which gave the impression that 'Britain is(was) Booming' - their 1997 election campaign slogan. In truth, there were an astonishingly high number of unemployed people for such a time when the economy was supposed to be so good.

I grew up in a very working class environment - my Dad has worked all his life and thankfully he retires in less than a month, which he thoroughly deserves. I can tell you first hand that the Tories were never interested in us, and never will be.
#13
Xb0xGuru
That's such a one-sided view as to where we were over 11 years ago.

I'll remind you, in case you forgot.

1. The Tories were planning on scrapping the NHS and making everyone pay for their health. The amount of money they were putting into public services was getting less and less - why do you think Brown had to inject billions into the service just to keep it running?
2. There was no such thing as a minimum wage or minimum weekly earnings via family tax credits. Business were able to hold staff to 'ransom' on wages as little as £1 an hour.
3. The Government controlled the rate of Interest and normally did so against the advice of the Bank of England. When it was near election time, they would intentionally keep it low to win votes.
4. Pensioners were not given a winter fuel allowance, meaning an alarmingly high number died through something as simple as not having enough money to keep themselves warm.
5. Let's not forget the word 'sleaze' was invented for Tory MPs. 'The New Statesman' was extremely close to the truth!

What the Tories did was create a 'surface wealth' which gave the impression that 'Britain is(was) Booming' - their 1997 election campaign slogan. In truth, there were an astonishingly high number of unemployed people for such a time when the economy was supposed to be so good.

I grew up in a very working class environment - my Dad has worked all his life and thankfully he retires in less than a month, which he thoroughly deserves. I can tell you first hand that the Tories were never interested in us, and never will be.



Im not a tory voter....if thats what you assume im 22 and my dad is a builder so i couldnt agree more with you at some points.....but ive grew up with labour..i couldnt find an appreticeship to get a trade when i finished school because they had literally been scrapped...slowly coming back now it seems im far too old. I work for a bank and im doing rather well but thats all off my own back...no one gave me help.....well they did they had unqualified career advisors who hadnt a clue about the real world.....which was little help.

But to your number 2 point...its great we have a minimum wage...people should be valued..but all these family an working tax credits and incapacity benefits, invalidy benefits, cares allowances, severe disablement allowances, disability living allowance, disability working allowance, job seekers allownace, its all now FAR too much and it seems people are knocking out families to get more and more and more free money which seems to be endless now....i know people from school who have just had a few kids and are sitting on a goldmine now..its hardly worth me going to work for the same money...when i can sit home on me xbox all day...but i do because its the way i was brought up.

And from what i can see its going around full circle with pensioners...the governments unwillingness to tax these profit rich energy companies and selling our major energy institutions to french and other foreign companies the bills will not come down and the 200 pound or whatever there giving is meaningless as its food or heat now....................so its going to happen all over again with deaths.........etc on the increase.

And again i agree with you saying about there campaign slogan........but thats politics...its happening all over again labour have started to hit the rocks alot of the things everyone thought were going well havent been behind the scenes and now thats all coming to the full front and they will themselves have snazzy campaign logos because its designed to put a gloss on it to the people who would usually just say "i only vote labour" if they didnt the people who dont question these things wud go...ooo whats up?

My dad is still working as a joiner....whos seen lately his work dry up more and more through numerous things like...an influx of foreign tradesmen without proper licenesing come in and be willing to take 5+ pounds off there hourly wage so instantly get any work..................and obvioulsly with the shrinking economy the building trade starts to slow before most anythings..but hes said it just reminds him on the 90's.........think maybe until the politicians have to WORK for there money...(which shoudnt be extortinate.....) then nothing will change...there recklessness and risk will continue to dog lives....
#14
hawkio
Im not a tory voter....
/snip


I didn't actually assume you were :-) It's the appearance of a good economy 11 years ago which was the point.

Much of the situation we're in right now is due to the global economy and thanks to an excellent Chancellor who knows his economics, we would have been far worse off otherwise.

I won't deny that life under Labour hasn't been without it's ups and downs, but I'll say two words and no more on the subject:

Poll Tax.

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