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Gossip Column-Death Penalty-Should it be brought back?

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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
What are your views on the Death Penalty?
Do you agree with Life For A Life?
I personally detest all of these knife murders and sure everybody else does, do you agree with me that the sentences should be much more severe for people caught carrying knives and should the death penalty be brought back for vicious murders?
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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banned#1
sentences should be much more severe for people caught carrying knives


yes

and should the death penalty be brought back for vicious murders?


not until it can be proven 100% that everyone (not just some) that are found guilty, are guilty.
#2
It will [COLOR="Red"]NEVER[/COLOR] be brought back. Fact
#3
not until it can be proven 100% that everyone (not just some) that are found guilty, are guilty.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking of the cases such as serial murderers etc
#4
thesaint
It will [COLOR="Red"]NEVER[/COLOR] be brought back. Fact


not in this country I know, I am not trying to change the law but asking for peoples views
#5
"Thou shalt not kill" comes to mind :whistling:
#6
shouldnt be brought back, as the U.S shows it doesnt even act as a deterrant
#7
Yes but no but yes but no but yes but no but yes.

Death isn't really all it's cracked up to be.
banned#8
skusey
not in this country I know, I am not trying to change the law but asking for peoples views


I dont think it will either.... but there is no such thing as never in politics.

I've never been a supporter of the ultimate "deterant" (purely because the law and its forensics mess up so much and its hard to tell someone you've topped sorry afterwards.)

But Ive always felt that in extreme cases (like Bradly, Hindley, West and Shipman for example), living is too good for them as a punishment.
#9
I can see both sides of the arguement. Nevertheless, I think a life sentence ought to be just that, life. Capital Punishment will never be brought back.
#10
Death sentence will never and shouldn't ever be brought back. Prisons should be turned into hell on earth though. Maybe criminals would think twice before committing a crime if prison wasn't such a cushy holiday camp.
#11
guv
I dont think it will either.... but there is no such thing as never in politics.

I've never been a supporter of the ultimate "deterant" (purely because the law and its forensics mess up so much and its hard to tell someone you've topped sorry afterwards.)

But Ive always felt that in extreme cases (like Bradly, Hindley, West and Shipman for example), living is too good for them as a punishment.


I lived close to Fred West, I walked down Cromwell Street with my brother when they found the bodies and we were chased by some residents, never been back:whistling:
#12
Life should mean life, prisons should stop being holiday camps. Bring back National Service.
#13
Killing an individual by the State must be seen to reflect what is "right" for society - we have to have guidlines. If we "kill" those that have killed, what does it say about those in authority? "Well they killed a human to make a point....."
I think it's an endless topic, but I don't see that taking the life of a murderer actually shows society the way forward, or how to deal with nasty people.
I just wish that when they find these people guilty, they lock them up and they don't see society ever again - including tv, papers etc. Life in prison has become too easy for a lot of criminals.
#14
The reason prisons are so over crowed is because they aren't a deterrent. what's the point of them? Prisons should be full of cells, and in each cell there should be a bed and a bucket. that's it!! let see how many of these little b******s would carry on the way the do these days if there was a good chance they'd be going somewhere like that. Then maybe we'd have more room in prisons to lock away scum bag murderers paedophiles rapists etc for LIFE. till the day they stop breathing.
banned#15
ChipSticks
The reason prisons are so over crowed is because they aren't a deterrent. what's the point of them? Prisons should be full of cells, and in each cell there should be a bed and a bucket. that's it!! let see how many of these little b******s would carry on the way the do these days if there was a good chance they'd be going somewhere like that. Then maybe we'd have more room in prisons to lock away scum bag murderers paedophiles rapists etc for LIFE. till the day they stop breathing.


You mean like prisons were in the 80's and before? There was crime then, what makes you think going back 20 years would stop crime now?
1 Like #16
thesaint
It will [COLOR="Red"]NEVER[/COLOR] be brought back. Fact


What makes you so sure? Civil liberties are being rolled backwards at a hefty pace. Our government doesn't care for its people, it wants to control them. When it gets to the point that it's impossible to control people, isn't it only the next logical step to execute them?
#17
i think full life in a tough prison,
gradually rotting and deteriorating,with time to think of what you've done,
would be worse than a death sentence
#18
dxx
What makes you so sure? Civil liberties are being rolled backwards at a hefty pace. Our government doesn't care for its people, it wants to control them. When it gets to the point that it's impossible to control people, isn't it only the next logical step to execute them?


Mmmm, not sure about the authorities going to that step - it's not quite Judge Dredd society yet! :roll:
#19
colinsunderland
yes



not until it can be proven 100% that everyone (not just some) that are found guilty, are guilty.


Impossible.
banned#20
deek72
Impossible.


What so when a mass murder admits they are guilty, they must be lying?
banned#21
franbo60
Mmmm, not sure about the authorities going to that step - it's not quite Judge Dredd society yet! :roll:


No but its getting more and more like it. Terrorist act anyone! Now who would have thought Iceland would be held accountable under the terrorism act to seize their assets in this country!
#22
maybe the answer isnt to bring back a death penalty, but to make prisons what they should be PUNISHMENT

im so sick and tired of hearing about criminals doing bird that have tv's, computer consoles, internet access, christmas pasrties, halloween parties whilst hard working law abiding good people are struggling with soaring prices and money worries
[helper]#23
The death penalty should never be brought back even for terrorists (who would welcome the opportunity to become martyrs for their cause).
#24
Yes but only for convicted criminals.
#25
ilovepink;3281666
maybe the answer isnt to bring back a death penalty, but to make prisons what they should be PUNISHMENT

im so sick and tired of hearing about criminals doing bird that have tv's, computer consoles, internet access, christmas pasrties, halloween parties whilst hard working law abiding good people are struggling with soaring prices and money worries


they get an allowance, free education, sky telly, human rights have a lot to answer for :x
banned#26
ilovepink
maybe the answer isnt to bring back a death penalty, but to make prisons what they should be PUNISHMENT

im so sick and tired of hearing about criminals doing bird that have tv's, computer consoles, internet access, christmas pasrties, halloween parties whilst hard working law abiding good people are struggling with soaring prices and money worries


Or prisoners being given compensation because their personal data has been compromised! My pension fund company (for the second time) has just lost all our records! Where's my compensation (or suggestion of it!)
#27
human rights makes me laugh, what about the human rights of the victims as i have said before on various other discussions the do gooders in this country have a lot to answer for!!!!!
#28
Life in a Cell - And im talking life , hence your only coming out in a box is the best death sentance you can give.

Lethal Injection, most common method nowadays isnt painful - You fall asleep and die - Who cares? You dont relli know anything..

But Life in a cell. HA
1 Like #29
Pluun
Yes but only for convicted criminals.

That is the idea:whistling:

dxx
What makes you so sure? Civil liberties are being rolled backwards at a hefty pace. Our government doesn't care for its people, it wants to control them. When it gets to the point that it's impossible to control people, isn't it only the next logical step to execute them?


Because he knows everything, nobody else can be right.:whistling:
#30
Bigpoppaad
Life in a Cell - And im talking life , hence your only coming out in a box is the best death sentance you can give.

Lethal Injection, most common method nowadays isnt painful - You fall asleep and die - Who cares? You dont relli know anything..

But Life in a cell. HA


Have you seen todays prison?
Very similat to Butlins, except its free
banned#31
skusey
Have you seen todays prison?
Very similar to Butlins


Yikes. Must be terrible!


(Ooops Sorry Cheer!!!!):w00t:
#32
skusey
Have you seen todays prison?
Very similat to Butlins, except its free


Well make new ones - Real naff ones - Where they stay in the cell and thats it - Have a walk on there own each day round a large dark hall.

For there own life - Hope they go insane or top themselves. In a nice way of course.:w00t:

Edit - Im talking this as the death sentance - for those where a death sentance would normally go if it were still in. Murder ect. Those poeple who rob mars bars from corner shops just slap em.
#33
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081024/tuk-dad-jailed-for-snapping-tot-s-spine-dba1618.html
B*****DS like this should have the same done to him as he did his daughter
#34
Yeh, People like that should just be tortured till death - Bring back meadevil sickos :D
#35
prisons are overcrowded 1/3 or near that figure (i think) are foreigners - not being racist - just stating a fact

they claim legal aid etc - its me & you who are paying

repatriate them back to their own countries freeing up space for the thieves/little shzz who assault /

judges should be made accountable as well - some just too lenient

story on bbc - Six brothers in jail at same time - quote from judge [QUOTE][Judge Peter Wright told him: "Your background leaves one saddened. Life has dealt you a pretty raw hand. But there are a shocking number of crimes here/QUOTE]:w00t:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/7689934.stm
at least they are in prison
#36
[QUOTE=holly100]prisons are overcrowded 1/3 or near that figure (i think) are foreigners - not being racist - just stating a fact

they claim legal aid etc - its me & you who are paying

repatriate them back to their own countries freeing up space for the thieves/little shzz who assault /

Totally agree although we will be the ones in the wrong raising the foreigners topic:x
#37
holly100
prisons are overcrowded 1/3 or near that figure (i think) are foreigners - not being racist - just stating a fact


There are lies damn lies and statistics.

"Foreigners"(see black) as you so eloquently put it are more likely to be jailed for a crime that a white person would get a non custodial sentence for. Just stating a fact(like you, not providing any evidence).
#38
It is always wrong to kill. Murderers commit the ultimate crime - the taking of a human life. Should we, as a society kill them as retribution? No. It is wrong to kill. You might say - 'Well what about the victims? ' It is a good point but I would say that that is why we have a justice system and laws so that society can judge and mete out punishment appropriately. It is equally wrong for society to kill, so murderers should not be executed.
Criminals should be rehabilitated to the best extent that we can. What would it say about a society where those who do wrong are effectively tortured interminably, as effectively suggested in this thread. I do not believe that prisons are like holiday camps in the UK. I believe that they are frightening, humiliating places where little is done to prevent re-offending. I believe that we send far too many people to prison and for longer than any other EU country. Does this reflect the amount of crime in this country? The country with the highest percentage of criminals and with very bad prisons, I believe, is the USA. I think that the more respect you give to people the more likely they are to be able to recover and rehabilitate and become useful members of society.
There are a lot of mentally ill people in prison who receive virtually no treatment before they commit crimes and when they are incarcerated. There are some who are so mentally ill that they need to be locked safely away from the rest of society.
#39
my 'black' brothers drive expensive cars, are constantly stopped by the police, bl**dy ridiculous, don't need to put a race slant on this now do we :-D
#40
thesaint
There are lies damn lies and statistics.

"Foreigners"(see black) as you so eloquently put it are more likely to be jailed for a crime that a white person would get a non custodial sentence for. Just stating a fact(like you, not providing any evidence).


no evidence?
Just your opinion
"Foreigners"(see black) , How naive

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