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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
as above, but where do i start, any advice would be great,

where do i get my idea registered, i mean patent,

thanks in advance
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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banned#1
Apply to be on Dragons Den
#2
firstly PM me with the idea and we can go halves! lol

Seriously - you need to make sure your name is available as a domain. Check here then buy all the domains you can. (.co.uk, .com etc to match your name!)

thats the main thing/first thing you need to do
#3
whatsThePoint
Apply to be on Dragons Den

to apply on dragons den should be on road but its just an idea with 0% started, i want it to start it first and see how it goes for a bit...............,
#4
As with any Idea & Patents you don't pay for them & can get a patent Free for 1 full year.You can then get the Patent extended each year after all for Free.
#5
WheresMeNuts
As with any Idea & Patents you don't pay for them & can get a patent Free for 1 full year.You can then get the Patent extended each year after all for Free.


never knew that
#6
I'll buy your idea for £5..tell me then..hahaha
#7
It's really tough to get an idea to market, especially with a website. You will need a really good developer and a designer, the two roles are not often easy to fill with one person as a coder doesn't generally do design that well, and a designer generally isn't a fantastic coder.

You will need a decent server if there is any chance the site will do well, google have services that allow you to scale up to massive levels as needed but they are not cheap to start with so I would suggest getting some decent capacity yourself to start. I have a great deal with a company and pay £100 a month for my server, don't let people tell you you will be fine with a £3 a month package, if your 'idea' is good it will fall over as soon as several people try to access it at once.

Remember you can't patent a website so if it's any good it will be copied as soon as it gets any publicity, don't moan about just work hard to be better and continuously develop it. You will need to have your developer stick around and fix faults as they appear as well as grow the site non stop to stay one step ahead.

There are people who will code for a profit share, but they would probably want (and rightly so) much more of a share than you as they are taking the risk and doing all the work.

These days you don't have to have a great marketing machine behind you as long as you are really good at interacting with others over twitter, facebook and blogs, if you are you can get started with little or no outlay.

Don't be afraid to tell others about your idea and ask for help, you can't keep it a secret forever and unless you have all the above you can easily be beaten the second you put a taster page online.

Feel free to pm me if you want any advice or tips, I don't need to know what your idea is and am busy enough without getting involved anyway! I might be able to give you a little free hosting in return for the termites cut of any profits though ;)
#8
I can offer hosting a well -- free of course! ;-)
#9
Patents. You can't patent an idea as such and very few websites are patented, in fact I don't know any that are. You patent a process, so you patent a way to do 'x' that results in 'y' happening in a way nobody has thought of. So people can patent a way to buy music online with a credit card without having to type in their details and simply using a special fridge magnet held up to their webcam, but not what the site looks like, it's name, what it sells, does or anything else.

So no, patent is not a route to go down for a website, otherwise facebook would not have been able to batter myspace, a patent would have protected them but there was nothing to patent.

Patenting is also a very difficult and tedious task, a decent patent lawyer will cost several thousand to get a good patent through in about a year.
#10
Great advice m4rc.
#11
Domain names, don't get too hung up or excited over a domain name, yes most of the good ones have gone, sadly squatters control many of the good ones and never pay a penny for them.

You will always get a decent domain though with a bit of thought and effort, but owning a domain name doesn't mean you have a site or that the site is any good - bit like a good personl number plate on a reliant robin
#12
Not too sure about patents, but can recommend

Daily.co.uk for domain purchase (25% cashback if purchased through Quidco)

I'm not 100% sure why, but web folk always say you should buy your domain and hosting from different companies.

Regarding hosting, Vidahost.com is good for cheap hosting. You can register a free domain here too if you take out hosting.

PM if you want a direct link. I use them for my sites



Edited By: wbmkk on Jan 02, 2011 12:20
#13
WheresMeNuts
As with any Idea & Patents you don't pay for them & can get a patent Free for 1 full year.You can then get the Patent extended each year after all for Free.


How does this work? I was under the impression that patents cost a large wad of cash to get, partly on the grounds of the manual labour that has to go into granting one. I'd be very nterested to see if you've found a method of getting them for free.
#14
I use 3ix to purchase a domain and for hosting, its costs me £15 for both services for a year. It probably isn't the best of hosting, and i've had to contact them twice in the past 4 months because my website went down, but they are quick to fix the problem.

Have you tried searching google to see if there is already a website created with your idea? Even if there is, there is nothing to stop you making it. There was another deal site called Rpoints made before hotukdeals but this site is now the top deal site in the uk.
#15
M4rc has given you great advice

In addition to this you have to consider this as a business, and i would suggest a good business plan.
Not one the free ones where you fill in the blanks, start with the basics, who where why what and spread out from there.
A good plan will highlight the problems your likely to face as will it highlight opportunities. It saves you work in the long run and helps clarify aims and objectives and will give your project/business some sort of structure and can provide a clear picture for others around you of your idea, this can be useful for when you need investment/help/direction.
You can do this whilst working alongside a site.

As m4rc said, if you skimp you will look cheap and people will not pay, you cannot do this for free, expect to have to invest both money and time in this idea, if you won't invest then why will others?
#16
Also check out local enterprise and education centers or contact local business link, my local ones a always running IP (intellectual property) workshops, as patents tend to be for more product based ideas rather than virtual
banned#17
wbmkk
I'm not 100% sure why, but web folk always say you should buy your domain and hosting from different companies.


If you run into problems with your host, you would soon find out! But seriously, its a case of hedging your bets. Even reliable companies can cause you problems - whether intentionally or otherwise. It also means your domain can easily be picked up and hosted elsewhere and point to your site quick and easily. I trust my domain host without any real issues..... but I never host my sites with them... ever.
#18
guv
wbmkk
I'm not 100% sure why, but web folk always say you should buy your domain and hosting from different companies.


If you run into problems with your host, you would soon find out! But seriously, its a case of hedging your bets. Even reliable companies can cause you problems - whether intentionally or otherwise. It also means your domain can easily be picked up and hosted elsewhere and point to your site quick and easily. I trust my domain host without any real issues..... but I never host my sites with them... ever.


Definitely.

I used to have hosting and domain registration done by the same company, all it meant was that when I found a new host, the old host put a lock on the domain preventing me from shifting it away from them, unless I gave them several hundred dollars. Now, my domain and my hosting are separate, and I can switch between site hosts freely, and in only the time it takes for DNS settings to propagate.

In non-nerd terms: Hosting + domain with same company = inevitable bumrape, hosting & domain with different companies = **** virginity
#19
skellysgirl
Also check out local enterprise and education centers or contact local business link, my local ones a always running IP (intellectual property) workshops, as patents tend to be for more product based ideas rather than virtual


Get in quick, Business Link is being shut down by the government. I think many local branches will be open until next March as they had their contracts renewed last year, others will be shutting
down this March. Shame, they offer a lot of help but have become a bit of a dinosaur and struggle to get people to use their services.


wbmkk

I'm not 100% sure why, but web folk always say you should buy your domain and hosting from different companies.

Regarding hosting, Vidahost.com is good for cheap hosting. You can register a free domain here too if you take out hosting.


As others have said probably best not use same company for both, but saying that if you go with a biggun you will be fine. Careful when searching domains, I have had issues with both daily and godaddy where I have searched for several domains, gone back hours later to find them gone. Not great domains, so no reason for them to be snapped up other than opportunists hoping to make some money. I don't know if its the companies or if somehow people can see what has been searched for, but it happens. They don't have to pay for them as they just use the cooling off period to hold them before releasing them without payment and getting them reserved again in the name of another company they own, and its all controlled automatically so no effort needed and no money to pay out. Really annoys me!

Personally I use 123-reg.co.uk for my domain registrations, I have a couple of hundred with them, easy to manage and they are quick and helpful with every transaction, plus never had a name taken when I searched for it and went back. Price, they are basically the same as anyone else, sometimes a few pence cheaper sometimes a few pence more, but never worth searching around for, domain registration isn't expensive anyway so don't work too hard to find a bargain, bigger things to worry about!

The basic hosting these companies offer - under £20 a year - is fine if you want a simple site or blog and will get no more than a few visitors at a time, if you want something like a forum which will have many users at once (well, if its popular!) then you can't use a £2 a month deal, the uplink pipe simply won't be enough.

To set up a site and test it using a random domain just so you and the development team can see how it all works go for one of the cheap companies on a shared server, it will be fine and save you money. Next step would be a virtual private server which you will be able to get for a tenner a month, then you go for a dedicated server so its just yours, your own pipe in and out and nobody fighting you for bandwidth, they start at £30-40 a month but a good one will cost you a bit more.
#20
m4rc

To set up a site and test it using a random domain just so you and the development team can see how it all works go for one of the cheap companies on a shared server, it will be fine and save you money..


Or try the free hosting company at Zymic.com

Last year I attended a web design course at night school and the tutor told us about this site. the school security system blocked many similar sites, for various reasons ... he could only assume the software could detect cookies or something. Zymic was OK though.

We used it during our course, so we could see what we had done in class, at home etc.

Personally i found it useful too if i had a web design problem. There are many forums to learn from, but if viewers can see the problem on a live site, it makes it easier to find a solution.

Best of luck in your venture !
#21
dxx
WheresMeNuts
As with any Idea & Patents you don't pay for them & can get a patent Free for 1 full year.You can then get the Patent extended each year after all for Free.


How does this work? I was under the impression that patents cost a large wad of cash to get, partly on the grounds of the manual labour that has to go into granting one. I'd be very nterested to see if you've found a method of getting them for free.
I was going to get a Patent on a Application I came up with around 8 Years ago involving Public Transport & people waiting on it.Was & still is a great idea but was just to much work for me to carry-on & also French Zelocome & the US Army ( Yes I know lol ) also had Patents not the same but similar & would of challenged me.Must admit the guy who did the Patents still said i could Patent it because it had similar & different ways for it to work.
Anyway the Government give out Patents for free & you need to contact your Local council who will give you the correct people to contact.
From what I remember in Glasgow it was called Working Enterprise.

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