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Graphics Card Advice please

mcallim7 Avatar
7y, 3m agoPosted 7 years, 3 months ago
I have been using a Dell power edge 440 for the last couple of years and was going to upgrade the graphics card but there are M/B limitations with this PC
I have a 256Mb PCI card at the moment but i have noticed i can get a 512Mb PCI card for about £44 from Play and ebuyer
But the board as a couple of PCI-E slots but NOT a x16 :(
I came across a PCI-E x1speed 512Mb card for about £60 and wasnt sure if this would be a better option.
The other thing is the board has a PCI-E x8 speed slot and i wasnt sure if you could plug a x16 speed card into it and it would just run at x8 speed
Any constructive advice is appreciated
Thanks in advance

M
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7y, 3m agoPosted 7 years, 3 months ago
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The reason you have limitations is because its not a home PC its a server and was never designed to be a gaming rig there is no reason for businesses to put high end graphics cards in what was designed to be a headless unit only accessed by Terminal services/Remote desktop it was made to have a couple of fast nics maybe a few HDD's and memory and locked up in a closet.

The fact your asking questions regarding a GPU makes me wonder why you bought it in the first place, loads of people on here bought these and the HP because they where cheap, they where cheap for a purpose what i suggest is next time before you go out a buy something at least make sure you understand its specs and its uses this machine was aimed at a office with just enough employees where a workgroup setup no longer works and they require a Server, this would be an all in one box for file and print serving aswell as being the Domain Controller.

Maybe you should also post the spec of the machine and the GPU your looking at, if you where using a normal motherboard that had multiple crossfire or SLI slots they usually have 1 or 2 slots that run at 16x and 1 that runs at 8x or 4x so if the PCI-E slot is long enough i don't see any reason why it shouldn't work, but if its a shorter slot the card would be swinging in the wind which could end in disaster. Are you sure that its a PCI-E slot for graphics as they made the edge 400 in many shapes and forms including AGP.

Also check this link as this question has been explored before.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-252879_10_0.html
#2
hey polly, u from cheshire by any chance?
i'm well missed tnite but to answer question some gfx cards will work at x8 its a gamble, go for a well known brand.
pci is limited by the bandwidth of interface so waste of time, pci-e is the way forward, only those who have doen it will know teh specifics tho
#3
Can you please post the machine's Service Tag (sticker on the side/back of the case) and outline what you are trying to achieve with the GFX card upgrade (ie: play Call of Duty 4, improve 3D Max's rendering speeds etc...).
#4
maddogb
hey polly, u from cheshire by any chance?
i'm well missed tnite but to answer question some gfx cards will work at x8 its a gamble, go for a well known brand.
pci is limited by the bandwidth of interface so waste of time, pci-e is the way forward, only those who have doen it will know teh specifics tho


Like you say it may well work with decent brand cards but it all depends on if the slots long enough to house the 16x lanes, as 8x doesn't use that many so because its not a consumer board its possibly shorter as it wasn't designed for high end cards. The other issue is any newish fast card will need a 6pin power supply and knowing dell and the fact that this is there budget Server the psu will be 300watts or something which with today's gaming card wont be enough. Also because dell use to use there own custom boards and psu's its unlikely that a regular ATX psu will work and in a lot of cases people have blew up the PCs by swapping them out and not knowing they are wired differently.

Its all just speculation because without knowing the spec of unit and card he wants we are just guessing.
#5
OK , yes i was being cheap when i bought this machine but my rather expencive home built PC had just given up the ghost after 3 years of good service and as i was working at Dell this particular week i took advantage of this offer as i wanted back online that week without too much hastle, but it is a good m/c and has lasted me longer than i ever expected(even if it not a real PC) yes i do use remote access most of the time and it is mainly used for downloading and storage, but i was considering a new card as i do like the odd RPG as my laptop is small and weak and this web site is meant to be the best for us cheapskates who dont want to splash the cash and get some extra bang for our £££ :) and i just wanted to know what would be best with my limited machine and budget

cheers all (added rep to 69 for the link not the tongue lashing :thumbsup:)

M
#6
I forgot

Option
A
B
C
Or D (any cheap x16 speed card if they do in fact work in a x8 speed slot):oops:


EDIT
looks like D is the answer from the link provided cheers again

M
1 Like #7
or Option E

PCI Express X8 to X16 Adapter :thinking: :)
#8
Top banana Boogie83e:thumbsup: BIG REP :w00t:
#9
mcallim7
Top banana Boogie83e:thumbsup: BIG REP :w00t:


sorry but from way you have been talking i assumed your slot was actually a pci-e x16 slot running at x8 speed, the adapter is for a true x8 slot, you need to make sure which it is..

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