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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
Helping out a neighbour and I am needing help / advice.
They have a Dell Dimension 4600 with nearly 2 gig ram and Ubuntu as the OS. It has the Dell standard integrated graphics. The young one wants to see it speed up some of the games he plays on it. As far as I can see it needs to be an AGP card rather than PCI.

It is an old box so no point in putting in £200 cards! Something cheap and cheerful from here or the bay would be ideal.

So what would you recommend in terms of cards? Anything to avoid?

Thanks for all helpful advice given :-)
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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you could pick up a better spec refub or secondhand agp card than say a brand new one.
if your going for a new one you would have to make sure the system spec matches the card so it can run and work effectively. You might be better with 3 gb of ram to help counterbalance the card.
run in the terminal in ubuntu:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install hardinfo && hardinfo

it will give system spec which you can post to here to give an idea what exact machine they got.

Edited By: andyhunter on Dec 24, 2010 15:46
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andyhunter
you could pick up a better spec refub or secondhand agp card than say a brand new one.
if your going for a new one you would have to make sure the system spec matches the card so it can run and work effectively. You might be better with 3 gb of ram to help counterbalance the card.
run in the terminal in ubuntu:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install hardinfo && hardinfo

it will give system spec which you can post to here to give an idea what exact machine they got.


Thanks for that - I had not considered that the RAM may need upping too.

Would you go for 128 or 256 or 512 or just what the budget limit allows? Would a 128 card make enough of a difference?
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AberdeenDad
andyhunter
you could pick up a better spec refub or secondhand agp card than say a brand new one.
if your going for a new one you would have to make sure the system spec matches the card so it can run and work effectively. You might be better with 3 gb of ram to help counterbalance the card.
run in the terminal in ubuntu:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install hardinfo && hardinfo

it will give system spec which you can post to here to give an idea what exact machine they got.


Thanks for that - I had not considered that the RAM may need upping too.

Would you go for 128 or 256 or 512 or just what the budget limit allows? Would a 128 card make enough of a difference?

2gb ram is more than enough

hd4650 is a great card

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002KTZRF2/ref=asc_df_B002KTZRF21586434?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=****&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B002KTZRF2

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
#4
2gb ram is not enough you can never have enough memory, your forgoting the system requires memory, the game requires memory, applications require memory, memory is required on the fly for random operations and to store frequently accessed and used data. 3 gb would be far more benefically than 2 gb more is better. http://www.totalpcgaming.com/hardware/luis-villizon-on-how-much-ram-you-really-need/
512 card as i personally couldnt see the machine getting out the full 1gb preformance, the machine could better utilize 512 anyways. ati technology is generally better than nvidia but old vodoo tech works a treat.
#5
andyhunter
2gb ram is not enough you can never have enough memory, your forgoting the system requires memory, the game requires memory, applications require memory, memory is required on the fly for random operations and to store frequently accessed and used data. 3 gb would be far more benefically than 2 gb more is better. http://www.totalpcgaming.com/hardware/luis-villizon-on-how-much-ram-you-really-need/
512 card as i personally couldnt see the machine getting out the full 1gb preformance, the machine could better utilize 512 anyways. ati technology is generally better than nvidia but old vodoo tech works a treat.


As insane ramblings go, this is one of the most remarkably anachronistic I've encountered in a long time. While I could go through the post debunking each point you make (basically, everything you've said is wrong, and shows a serious lack of understanding of basically everything), or pick on each grammatical or spelling error, I'll just point to the part at the end where you start going on about Voodoo cards, remind you that it's nearly 2011, and make a loud "Eh?" noise.

AberdeenDad, take Csiman's word on this one.
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andyhunter
2gb ram is not enough you can never have enough memory, your forgoting the system requires memory, the game requires memory, applications require memory, memory is required on the fly for random operations and to store frequently accessed and used data. 3 gb would be far more benefically than 2 gb more is better. http://www.totalpcgaming.com/hardware/luis-villizon-on-how-much-ram-you-really-need/
512 card as i personally couldnt see the machine getting out the full 1gb preformance, the machine could better utilize 512 anyways. ati technology is generally better than nvidia but old vodoo tech works a treat.


As insane ramblings go, this is one of the most remarkably anachronistic I've encountered in a long time. While I could go through the post debunking each point you make (basically, everything you've said is wrong, and shows a serious lack of understanding of basically everything), or pick on each grammatical or spelling error, I'll just point to the part at the end where you start going on about Voodoo cards, remind you that it's nearly 2011, and make a loud "Eh?" noise.

AberdeenDad, take Csiman's word on this one.

I did lol really loud when 'voodoo cards' came into the argument. The mind boggles.
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Well I'll have a little input. First spending £60 on a GPU for this system is madness. If you have £60 to spend then buy a more modern second hand base unit and a nvidia 8xxx series pci-e GPU.
If you are sticking with this base station then look at a second hand 7 or 8 series GPU as they have better driver support than ATI (sorry AMD, now!) under linux.

While FPS tend to be graphic intensive most of the linux based ones lean there encoding to take advantage of a fast CPU and the P4 in your current system will end up being a bottle neck being barely more powerful than a Atom based netbook processor.

So look at car boot sales, computer fairs or ebay and spend less than £10 or if spending more buy a second hand base for £50 and £10 on a second hand pci-e GPU.
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GAVINLEWISHUKD
Well I'll have a little input. First spending £60 on a GPU for this system is madness. If you have £60 to spend then buy a more modern second hand base unit and a nvidia 8xxx series pci-e GPU.
If you are sticking with this base station then look at a second hand 7 or 8 series GPU as they have better driver support than ATI (sorry AMD, now!) under linux.

While FPS tend to be graphic intensive most of the linux based ones lean there encoding to take advantage of a fast CPU and the P4 in your current system will end up being a bottle neck being barely more powerful than a Atom based netbook processor.

So look at car boot sales, computer fairs or ebay and spend less than £10 or if spending more buy a second hand base for £50 and £10 on a second hand pci-e GPU.

Blimey - didnt realise the base unit was a 2005 model. Then again, probably end up with the same again spending £50 on a base unit.
#9
csiman
Blimey - didnt realise the base unit was a 2005 model. Then again, probably end up with the same again spending £50 on a base unit.


Yes it is an old box! Neighbour uses it for email and iplayer, the kid just plays mostly flash type games (aged 6 so not into adult games yet) and a couple of educational PC games.

Thanks for the guidance, I will have a look on the bay and see what I can find.

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