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Haiti Fundraising - Over £163,000 raised! - Take a look!

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6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
This young man (age 7/8) wanted to raise £500 by doing a bike ride around his local park for the Earthquake survivors in Haiti. So far he has raised over £160'000.00
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6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
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#2
awww thats fab, I bet he is so pleased with himself :) he deserved to be pleased, Hope his bike ride goes well. Nice to see kids helping out too.
#3
wow that is impressive!
#4
wow !!!
#5
Nice story!!

Waiting.. Waiting......
#6
Has he done the ride yet?
#7
Omg i just clicked on it about 5 mins ago then came back to show my work collegue and it had gone up over £200.
#8
wow!!
#9
Very good, can't quite understand why people have decided to give through him though? I guess it's cos of tv interviews etc.
banned#10
Its gone up £5,000 since you posted - he gets my donation !:thumbsup:
Feel good story of the year so far :)
suspended#11
He's a great kid, helping so many at a young age.
banned#12
Plum
Nice story!!

Waiting.. Waiting......


DarkKnight
He's a great kid, helping so many at a young age.


There ya go....... your wait is over, he's here. :thumbsup:



Good for the kid concerned (a big thumbs up)... but just to raise the question........ does this thread now mean we can post our own "just giving" links to chosen charities now?

If it's OK, there are several good causes I support and would love to share.
#13
I am waiting for the Simon Cowell thread lot to come in and say he is only doing it to promote the make of the bike.
#14
guv
There ya go....... your wait is over, he's here. :thumbsup:


Sorry your wrong. :roll:

and I can only take your first answer. ;-)
#15
guv

Good for the kid concerned (a big thumbs up)... but just to raise the question........ does this thread now mean we can post our own "just giving" links to chosen charities now?

If it's OK, there are several good causes I support and would love to share.


I only posted this due to the immense amount raised from his tiny target of £500.
banned#16
birdyboyuk
I only posted this due to the immense amount raised from his tiny target of £500.


I agree. I see absolutely no problem with "just giving" threads.
#17
birdyboyuk
I only posted this due to the immense amount raised from his tiny target of £500.


guv
I agree. I see absolutely no problem with "just giving" threads.


Glad you clarified guv. :thumbsup:

It's great to see this kind of story being posted on Hotukdeals. Makes you see that you can be really young and still realise that People in trouble thousands of miles are just as important as those next door. I think the massive response to this page is partly to do with the hope for the future donators see in this action.

I will keep my eye out for you thread guv :)
#18
#19
dontasciime


Not a bad little earner for Just Giving though is it? £10k for a bit of admin, etc... would have thought they'd have waived it on this occasion or taken it from the original amount he set out to raise.
#20
dontasciime


Total ripoff IMO. Companies shouldn't take money from charity donations.
#21
at least they are not taking it for the original £10 someone donated, just the gift aid which the government will be paying.
Kind of equals it out. I would be frustrated if they took it off the money I wanted to donate to them.
#22
beth3735
at least they are not taking it for the original £10 someone donated, just the gift aid which the government will be paying.
Kind of equals it out. I would be frustrated if they took it off the money I wanted to donate to them.


It will come out of donation if you do not pay tax

If your donation isn’t eligible for Gift Aid, we take our 5% fee from your donation. Because over 85% of donations through JustGiving are eligible for Gift Aid, charities always end up raising more with us.
#23
dontasciime
It will come out of donation if you do not pay tax


Oooh yeah true, but it does say on there about it comes out of the gift aid part. Still not right, but each and every company takes some type of admin fee.

At least this is less than the NSPCC percentage. It was in the paper that out of every £1 donated they get 12p as the rest go into admin, government blah blah blah. I dont know how true it was, I just read it somewhere x
banned#24
No one does anything for nothing these days, though this is clearly a nice little earner. Still it could be worse, looking at the amount of money charities collect and volume of proceeds that do get to the intended target.

My account with Just Giving won't be closed because of this, even though it is a bit of a poor showing on their part.

dontasciime
It will come out of donation if you do not pay tax


My donation is the full amount. It's me that authorises the tax relief for the charity - of which I'd prefer the charity to get the money than a website organiser.
#25
^ I'm on the fence (*)
#26
dontasciime
It will come out of donation if you do not pay tax


yep, and as guv says, your donation is the full amount including gift aid so they're taking something the charity would have otherwise got.

Granted though that they do provide a service, which saves charity the time and effort providing it. I read that Virgin Money were going to launch in the summer a similar service which took only a third of what justgiving do.

I spoke to the charity that does the sunwalk (can't remember name atm) a while ago and they said they were going to change to their own service seeing as justgiving take so much. The only unique part about justgiving is the site combines all the charities, which doesn't really matter as usually you just follow a link to a friends charity page (wouldn't matter what site it was on).
#28
beth3735

At least this is less than the NSPCC percentage. It was in the paper that out of every £1 donated they get 12p as the rest go into admin, government blah blah blah. I dont know how true it was, I just read it somewhere x


I thought most charities were around 75%, which isn't perfect either.
#29
Flodd
Not a bad little earner for Just Giving though is it? £10k for a bit of admin, etc... would have thought they'd have waived it on this occasion or taken it from the original amount he set out to raise.


Very true, if they changed rules on this they'd probably have to do it for everything though.

£10k to collect your details and claim the gift aid (automated process over the net for them I believe). NICE!
#30
A donation to any charity only qualifies for gift aid if you pay enough UK income tax and/or capital gains tax to cover the amount of tax the charity will reclaim.

If you pay no tax then no gift aid is made to the charity and the above organiser takes their 5% from your donation is what I tried to say above. So it's clear I do not agree with it eg I'm sort of on the fence as they get a lot of publicity and therefore any charity associated with them seems to be better off than without their help (if that is case)

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/charities/gift-aid.htm
#31
Personally I think that JustGiving provide a very viable solution to collecting and giving money to charities and good causes.

They don't force anyone to use their service and their operation is both transparent and incredibly easy to use.

I wonder if there is much of a monetary difference between using JustGiving and having to use ones own finances and recourses to collect aid ?
I also wonder if charities and good causes would reach the totals they do without the ease of JustGiving.

I've said it before and still think the same, I can't understand why HUKD Admin does not allow links in posts to Charities and good causes that use JustGiving ?
#32
hottoshop
Personally I think that JustGiving provide a very viable solution to collecting and giving money to charities and good causes.

They don't force anyone to use their service and their operation is both transparent and incredibly easy to use.

I wonder if there is much of a monetary difference between using JustGiving and having to use ones own finances and recourses to collect aid ?
I also wonder if charities and good causes would reach the totals they do without the ease of JustGiving.

[COLOR="Red"]Very good points as always.[/COLOR]

I've said it before and still think the same, I can't understand why HUKD Admin does not allow links in posts to Charities and good causes that use JustGiving ?

[COLOR="red"]It's kinda self promo though, you could end up with a massive spam of threads asking for donations. Maybe in one thread would be ok but I'm not sure about allowing anyone to post a thread about their own donation event.[/COLOR]
banned#33
hottoshop
Personally I think that JustGiving provide a very viable solution to collecting and giving money to charities and good causes.

They don't force anyone to use their service and their operation is both transparent and incredibly easy to use.

I wonder if there is much of a monetary difference between using JustGiving and having to use ones own finances and recourses to collect aid ?
I also wonder if charities and good causes would reach the totals they do without the ease of JustGiving.

I've said it before and still think the same, I can't understand why HUKD Admin does not allow links in posts to Charities and good causes that use JustGiving ?


Yup on all counts. I'd obviously prefer all the money to get to the charity, but agree in comparison the amount is minimal, (How much would it cost to accept payments via Pay Pal for example), and they are not doing this as a charity. (No pun intended.)

Still waiting for an answer to the question raised on Just Giving mentioned earlier, which I know that the Mods have seen as they removed several trolling posts made in response to the question.
#34
http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/giving/about-us/more-money-goes-to-charity.jsp

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!

Let me know your opinions guys, from what I can see they only charge 2% which is much less than justgivings 5%. They also charge £100 set up fee as opposed to justgiving's £10 a month which means that after 10 months it's cost the same (apart from the saving on the 2% compared to 5%!) and anything after that is effectively free!


"Because we’re not-for-profit we only charge charities the minimum fees needed to cover our running costs. That’s a single start-up fee of £100 + VAT from each charity and 2% of donations. Gift Aid is reclaimed from the Government and passed to charities in full. Fundraisers and their sponsors don’t pay a penny to use our website.

Should we have any money left over after covering our operating costs, we’ll use it to reduce our fees further or improve services for fundraisers and charities."


http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/giving/about-us/how-we-compare.jsp
banned#35
Benjimoron
It's kinda self promo though, you could end up with a massive spam of threads asking for donations. Maybe in one thread would be ok but I'm not sure about allowing anyone to post a thread about their own donation event.


In what way is it self promotion? Assuming the charity isn't called "Benjimoron" - you'd not be benefitting would you? Self means that. I dont think self means "my uncle would benefit from Cancer Research" - so cant be involved.

I can completely understand if the forum was innundated with Charity threads. Fact is, it never was and all stemmed from a sole member crusade because they claimed they didnt support the charity in question.

I really cant see why "by mod approval" awareness can't be made and if a limit which they set is reached, there is a waiting list ona rolling basis.
#36
If just that kid (his family) had set up the fundraising page on Virgin Money instead of justgiving that charity would have received about an extra £7k, just from donations through his page! Now multiply that for all the other people raising money for Haiti, now multiply that again for all the other charities out there!
#37
guv
In what way is it self promotion? Assuming the charity isn't called "Benjimoron" - you'd not be benefitting would you? Self means that. I dont think self means "my uncle would benefit from Cancer Research" - so cant be involved.

I can completely understand if the forum was innundated with Charity threads. Fact is, it never was and all stemmed from a sole member crusade because they claimed they didnt support the charity in question.

I really cant see why "by mod approval" awareness can't be made and if a limit which they set is reached, there is a waiting list ona rolling basis.


It's self promo in that you'll raise more money for charity, which could make people think better of you. I agree it's not a guarenteed direct self promo but there are ways in which you might benefit from it.

Not that I have a problem with that, I'm just pointing out what the reasons might be. The other main one being that there's a potential for mass spamming of charity threads. Not got a clue whether it would happen, just sayin'!
banned#38
Benjimoron
If just that kid (his family) had set up the fundraising page on Virgin Money instead of justgiving that charity would have received about an extra £7k, just from donations through his page! Now multiply that for all the other people raising money for Haiti, now multiply that again for all the other charities out there!


But they didn't.....

Are you saying HUKDs should now pull this thread because of it? (I know your not - but I'm just looking into the logic in what your saying.)

I dont understand the point your trying to make tbh. Amazon sell stuff more expensive than Comet. Should we not allow Comet on the site?

I dont think the issue is Just Giving. The issue is Charities.
#39
guv
But they didn't.....

[COLOR="Red"]But if they had, and if people do in the future then charities would be better off.[/COLOR]

Are you saying HUKDs should now pull this thread because of it? (I know your not - but I'm just looking into the logic in what your saying.)

I dont understand the point your trying to make tbh. Amazon sell stuff more expensive than Comet. Should we not allow Comet on the site?

I dont think the issue is Just Giving. The issue is Charities.


My point is that Justgiving take too large an amount from charity. Virgin Money do it for a much cheaper amount.

Who said anything about pulling the thread?? WTF about comet selling at different prices that Amazon??
banned#40
Benjimoron
It's self promo in that you'll raise more money for charity, which could make people think better of you. I agree it's not a guarenteed direct self promo but there are ways in which you might benefit from it.


Oh come on. Thats a pretty lame argument! I'm sure there are many that do charity things for feelgood factors and if I was a popstar, you could level the "self promotion" thing. Yes I agree there may be "local" or issues "personally close" to you, but unless you DIRECTLY benefit its not even a starter for self promotion IMHO.

Not that I have a problem with that, I'm just pointing out what the reasons might be. The other main one being that there's a potential for mass spamming of charity threads. Not got a clue whether it would happen, just sayin'!


Like I said earlier, Mods set a limit and expire or remove on a rolling basis if it really does become an issue.

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