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Hard Wearing Tyres

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I had my car serviced yesterday and the chap told me I need to replace my tyres. I drive a Vectra for work, and is mainly motorway driving (about 1000+ miles a week). At the moment I've got Goodyear e… Read More
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6y, 3m agoPosted 6 years, 3 months ago
I had my car serviced yesterday and the chap told me I need to replace my tyres. I drive a Vectra for work, and is mainly motorway driving (about 1000+ miles a week). At the moment I've got Goodyear efficientgrip on them, they lasted about 20,000 miles, I paid £100 per tyre.

Are there any tyres that are harder and would probably last longer or is 20,000 miles about right? The size I need is 225 45 17. I dont want a cheapo budget tyre, I'd rather pay the extra for a quality tyre.

Thanks guys in advance
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6y, 3m agoPosted 6 years, 3 months ago
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#1
20k is good to be fair, you can get cheap hard wearing tyres but you will find the grip and ride comfort suffer and in the end are just not worth it. I guess the problem isn't the wear rate it's the amount you are doing in such a short space of time, 52k a year is high and you are paying the price (no pun intended)

BTW £100 seems incredibly cheap etyres come out at £183 fitted.

Edited By: greg_68 on Jan 07, 2011 07:56
#2
Harder tyres might last longer, but they would be a lot noisier. and if you do a lot of motorway driving i mean a lot noisier. I have Pirellis that are 18 months old and barely worn after 13K.
#3
Cheers guys, looks like i may just stick with the same goodyear Efficientgrip ones then.

greg_68, I get my tyres from an independant in smethwick (Birmingham) and yeah he is cheap, I'll see if i can knock him down some more if im gonna replace all 4! - Might even post in deals section if there is that much difference!!;)
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I dont want a cheapo budget tyre, I'd rather pay the extra for a quality tyre.

There is part of your problem.

Quality makes give a quiet soft ride.But soft tyres dont last as long as cheaper budget brands that have a harder tyre and dont stick to the road as well.
I have 2 vectras 2.0dti hatchback and 1.9 cdti 150ps estate auto.
The hatch back has 215/55/16 WANLI S1063 quite hard budget tyres that have lasted quite well
The 1.9 estate has FALKEN ZE912 these are quiet but grip well dont last as long but are as good as the bridgestones that it came with ive done 15000 motorway miles so far and have 4.5mm left on the tyres so may be get 22/25000 before changing but at half the price of Goodyear efficientgrip.
Wanli are £49.46 each delivered here get fitted yourself
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s16p49889
Falkens are £65.00
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s16p12922
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I'm finding I replace tyres more often for unrepairable puncutres now than because of wear.
#7
greg_68
I'm finding I replace tyres more often for unrepairable puncutres now than because of wear.


Luckily I've only ever suffered 1 puncture - must be lucky.
Anyway the chap in Smethwick can do me the efficientgrips for £95 per tyre:D
He recons that 20,000 miles is good for front tryes.

Just looking into the Michelin ones too.

Edited By: MANJ_007 on Jan 07, 2011 09:39: thought the reason wasnt mandatory (sp?) anymore?
#8
Same size - got a Bridgestone about a week ago for approx £97 after a flat. Merityre in Abingdon but they are nationwide.

I do many mles a week and it is definitely a balance between wear and ride/grip etc. Which? gives 6 best tyre brands detailed below:

Best six tyre brands

We've rated 18 tyre makers, considering the factors most crucial to every user - grip and handling in the most extreme of wet conditions and on dry tarmac and concrete. Our tests consider what happens on the straight and in a series of severe bends.

Here are the top six brands overall.

1st: Continental
Price band: High

The Continental tyres we’ve tested cover eight sizes commonly used on popular superminis, medium cars, large cars and MPVs. All the Continental tyres we’ve tested offer balanced performance, have no major weaknesses and all make the Best Buy grade. In the dry, Continental tyres perform very well, and wet grip is balanced and safe in a straight line or in a bend.

Brand profile
Continental is one of Europe’s most prominent tyre makers and it also owns other reasonably well known brands like Uniroyal (see below) and Semperit, plus a host of lesser-known mid-range and economy brands like Barum, Mabor and Viking. Continental tyres are relatively expensive to buy compared with other makes, but they are widely available through national and regional retail chains, independents and online retailers.

Pros and cons
+ Excellent dry grip
+ Very good wet grip
+ Widely available
- Relatively expensive to buy

Continental tyre ratings
Continental tyres
Performance criteria Average rating
Wet handling 4.1
Wet braking 3.9
Aquaplane resistance (straight-line) 3.7
Aquaplane resistance (in a bend) 4.2
Dry handling 4.6
Dry braking 4.0

Table notes
Average total test score = 67%
Number of tyres tested = 6
All ratings are out of 5

2nd: Michelin
Price band: High

We’ve tested seven sizes of Michelin tyre, covering sizes fitted to popular superminis, medium cars and MPVs, as well as a 17-inch tyre usually fitted to sporty alloy wheels on medium and large cars. All the Michelin tyres we’ve tested offer balanced performance, and all made the Best Buy grade. Dry grip and handling are either very good or excellent for every tyre and, in the wet, all tyres are either good or very good.

Brand profile
Michelin is one of the world’s largest tyre makers, and also owns BF Goodrich and lesser known mid-range and economy brands such as Kleber and Riken. Michelin tyres are generally quite expensive compared with other makes, but availability is good, in national and regional chains, independent retailers and online fitters, so you should have no trouble finding the one you want.

Pros and cons
+ Very good dry grip and handling
+ Good wet grip, handling and resistance to aquaplaning
+ Widely available
- High purchase price

Michelin tyre ratings
Michelin tyres
Performance criteria Average rating
Wet handling 3.6
Wet braking 3.3
Aquaplane resistance (straight-line) 3.4
Aquaplane resistance (in a bend) 3.1
Dry handling 4.5
Dry braking 4.0

Table notes
Average total test score = 65%
Number of tyres tested = 7
All ratings are out of 5

3rd: Bridgestone
Price band: High

We’ve covered Bridgestone tyres in nine sizes, including those used on popular superminis, medium cars and MPVs, as well as a 17-inch tyre usually fitted to sporty alloy wheels on medium and large cars. All the Bridgestone tyres we’ve tested offer balanced performance and have no major weaknesses. In the dry, the all tyres perform very well and, in wet conditions, they offer safe and consistent grip, whether in a straight line or in a bend.

Brand profile
Bridgestone is one of the world’s largest tyre makers and also owns the well-known Firestone brand, plus a range of lesser known mid-range and economy brands. Bridgestone tyres tend to be quite expensive compared with other makes, but they are widely available through national and regional retail chains, independents and online retailers.

Pros and cons
+ Very good dry grip
+ Good wet grip
+ Widely available
- Relatively expensive to buy

Bridgestone tyre ratings
Bridgestone tyres
Performance criteria Average rating
Wet handling 3.8
Wet braking 3.6
Aquaplane resistance (straight-line) 3.7
Aquaplane resistance (in a bend) 3.7
Dry handling 4.6
Dry braking 4.2

Table notes
Average total test score = 64%
Number of tyres tested = 9
All ratings are out of 5

4th: Uniroyal
Price band: Middle

Uniroyal is only mid-range tyre brand in our top six, so is well worth a look if you're after something a little cheaper. We’ve tested six Uniroyal tyre sizes designed for use on popular superminis, medium cars and MPVs. Almost all the Uniroyal tyres we’ve tested offer balanced performance, have no major weaknesses and all except one makes the Best Buy grade. In the dry, the tyres perform very well, and wet grip is balanced and safe in a straight line or in a bend.

Brand profile
Uniroyal is owned by Continental, one of Europe’s most prominent tyre makers and the best performing brand overall in our tests. Uniroyal tyres are priced in the mid-range compared with other makes, which could be good news if you have to replace all four tyres in one go. However, availability tends to be a problem – you may need to search independents and online retailers to find the Uniroyal tyre size you need.

Pros and cons
+ Very good dry handling, good dry grip
+ Good wet grip and handling
+ Good value
- One tyre doesn't quite make the Best Buy grade, just missing out because of average ratings for wet grip
- Hard to find

Uniroyal tyre ratings
Uniroyal tyres
Performance criteria Average rating
Wet handling 3.9
Wet braking 3.6
Aquaplane resistance (straight-line) 3.9
Aquaplane resistance (in a bend) 4.2
Dry handling 4.2
Dry braking 3.7

Table notes
Average total test score = 64%
Number of tyres tested = 6
All ratings are out of 5

5th: Goodyear
Price band: High

Goodyear tyres we've tested include sizes designed for popular superminis, medium cars and MPVs, as well as a 17-inch tyre usually fitted to sporty alloy wheels on medium and large cars. Most of the Goodyear tyres we’ve tested offer balanced performance, though one – the 205/55R16V Excellence – was slightly weak in wet braking. Out of the eight Goodyear tyres we've tested, one – the 195/65 R15H – made the Best Buy grade. Wet and dry grip is good on the straight or in bends and handling is balanced and assured in both wet and dry conditions.

Brand profile
Goodyear is one of the world’s largest tyre makers, and also owns Fulda, plus a range of lesser known mid-range and economy brands. Goodyear tyres are generally quite expensive compared with other makes, but availability is good, so you shouldn’t have problems locating the one you want.

Pros and cons

+ Generally good wet and dry grip
+ Good wet and dry handling
+ Widely available
- High purchase price

Goodyear tyre ratings
Goodyear tyres
Performance criteria Average rating
Wet handling 3.9
Wet braking 3.7
Aquaplane resistance (straight-line) 3.9
Aquaplane resistance (in a bend) 4.0
Dry handling 4.4
Dry braking 3.9

Table notes
Average total test score = 64%
Number of tyres tested = 8
All ratings are out of 5

6th: Pirelli
Price band: High

We’ve tested six sizes of Pirelli tyre – including those suitable for popular superminis, medium cars and MPVs. We've also tested a 17-inch tyre usually fitted to sporty alloy wheels on medium and large cars. All the Pirelli tyres we’ve tested offer balanced performance, and two thirds made the Best Buy grade. Wet grip and handling are either very good or excellent for every tyre, and in the dry all six tyres tested were either good or very good.

Brand profile
Pirelli is Italy’s premium tyre maker, and also owns economy tyre brands Ceat and Courier. Pirelli tyres are generally quite expensive compared with other makes, but availability is good. Pirelli is stocked by national and regional chains, independent retailers and online fitters, so you should have no trouble finding the one you want.

Pros and cons
+ Very good dry handling, good dry grip
+ Very good wet grip and handling
+ Widely available
- High purchase price

Pirelli tyre ratings
Pirelli tyres
Performance criteria Average rating
Wet handling 4.3
Wet braking 4.3
Aquaplane resistance (straight-line) 3.5
Aquaplane resistance (in a bend) 3.5
Dry handling 4.3
Dry braking 3.5

Table notes
Average total test score = 63%
Number of tyres tested = 6
All ratings are out of 5
#9
I actually found it cheaper to buy new alloys (genuine Land Rover) with tyres from eBay (brand new), than tyres by themselves.

All 4 of mine need replacing & the Scorpions were £220 each. I got 4 brand new HSE alloys with Scorpion tyres for £500.

Plan to flog my current wheels for use as spares, meaning they will have cost less than £300 for a set of brand new Alloys & top spec tyres :)

Edited By: ChrisUK on Jan 07, 2011 09:49
#10
whatsThePoint
Michelin PRIMACY HP up to 54% more mileage

http://www.etyres.co.uk/tyre-tests?term=michelin-primacy-hp



I have these on my Accord. About 30k on the rear, and 20k front.

Wear depends on driving style, load, correct pressure and a host of other things.

OP you didn't say if this was 20k on front or rear tyres, as that obviously makes a difference.
#11
It was over 20,000 on fronts and about 30,000 on backs, but all 4 need replacing now. Having done some reading this morning it seems that this is about right.

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