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Has anybody successfully argued against a rent increase?

Randa1 Avatar
6y, 2m agoPosted 6 years, 2 months ago
I've just recieved a letter from my landlord telling me my rent is going up. It's not by much but i feel i'm paying too much anyway. When i go past the estate agents near me, i see much nicer flats and houses the same size as mine but cheaper. The only reason i havent moved is because i've had a good relationship with the landlord and have lived in several of his properties over the last few years.
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6y, 2m agoPosted 6 years, 2 months ago
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#1
Money saved is money saved,If it was me I would consider moving.However if the landlord been quite good in way of making sure repairs and other problems dealt with thats good as a lot private landlords don't keep maintain their properties well. Plenty of dumps about and sometimes those cheaper ones are the dumps.
#2
if you have good landlord , stick with him , because there alot of bad ones , tell him your not able to afford the increase , if your a good tennant then he will be fine with that ,it sounds like your paying a little over the top for your place anyway , good luck
#3
Well the house itself is a bit tatty and has not been done up anytime recently, however the landlords office is across the road, so if theres any problems i can just pop over and talk to them face to face. but i see ones with modern kitchens, nice flooring, for less money, just a bit depressed really.
#4
tell him you want some upgrades in the house and a rent decrease!
#5
tell him if he wants extra cash you need a new bathroom and kitchen
then see if he still wants extra cash
1 Like #6
I would love a new bathroom, it's a lovely 70's avocado green suite....
#7
You should of told him before the place needs fixing now if you ask him he will say ok but your rent price will go high. But worth a shot on what numptyj -said
#8
Maybe i should just pay more and be firmer about some upgrades.
#9
well go for anothere house , what area are you in? how many bedrooms have you got ? and how much is your monthly rent? if it is tatty the need to modenise it for you new kitchen new bathroom . central heating in all rooms , they need to service all the gas in the house once a year , i e the cooker ,the fire, the boiler. i rent 3 houses out and spend about £1000 a year on each house on repairs ect ,
#10
Tell him you need upgrades and untill its done your not paying a penny more then what your already paying.
#11
I'm in south manchester and it's a 2 bed mid terrace my rents about £415. They dont really do anything to the house, i've been here 3 years and all they done is fix things that break, although they do give us paint if we ask for it.
#12
Randa1
I'm in south manchester and it's a 2 bed mid terrace my rents about £415. They dont really do anything to the house, i've been here 3 years and all they done is fix things that break, although they do give us paint if we ask for it.
They give you Paint! oO
Get me some black gloss then will you?

Randa1
Maybe i should just pay more and be firmer about some upgrades.

Much too British. Don't be polite and settle, tell him about the comparable properties and how you will leave if you don't get similar
#13
The landlord owns commercial properties as well, so they have loads of paint and wood hanging around.
Yeah i need to toughen up, dont like confrontation much.
#15
lol i wanna join his party...
#16
but i feel i'm paying too much anyway.


Why?
#17
thesaint
but i feel i'm paying too much anyway.
Why?

because similar properties are renting cheaper.
banned#18
I live in a modern flat. It helps me feel superior to most people on this forum.
#19
vibeone
I live in a modern flat. It helps me feel superior to most people on this forum.

lol do you need any help?
banned#20
Randa1
vibeone
I live in a modern flat. It helps me feel superior to most people on this forum.


lol do you need any help?


Nah I'm good. Wasn't a dig at you btw - you have your own place, which puts you above the majority.
#21
Ask him for a penny for penny break down as to why the rent is going up.

Provide examples of similar properties at the same price or cheaper.

Demonstrate your own good tenancy where you are.
Ask him if he is an approved landlord by your local council.
Double check your deposit is in a Tenancy Deposit Scheme

All and more here:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=937335

Also to see if you think you are getting value for money:
Find a property similar and near to yours recently sold on:
http://www.houseprices.co.uk/

Apply total worth to:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/homes/property/mortgagecalculator.shtml
Say 30years @ 5%.

Compare cost buy mortgage payments to renting, ideally you are paying less than a third or better, but that's extremely crude way of judging it.

Personally, I think he's recently seen that a double dip is becoming less likely, especially with Christmas on the horizon likely to spark an interest rate hike next year which has been rumoured and he wants to cover his bases before that happens.

You are well within your legal rights to ask for an extremely detailed account of how HIS costs have gone up to justify the rent nike.
banned#22
I done up our old kitchen and took the cost of materials out of the rent X)
#23
schizoboy
Ask him for a penny for penny break down as to why the rent is going up.


If a tenant of mine asked this, i'd serve notice just for the annoyance of being asked to provide such stupid ill informed information. Bad advice.

schizoboy

You are well within your legal rights to ask for an extremely detailed account of how HIS costs have gone up to justify the rent nike.


Everyone has the legal right to ask anyone anything, so this point is ridiculous.
The landlord is not required to answer anything at all. Bad advice.

Edited By: thesaint on Nov 11, 2010 07:04
#24
Randa1
I'm in south manchester and it's a 2 bed mid terrace my rents about £415. They dont really do anything to the house, i've been here 3 years and all they done is fix things that break, although they do give us paint if we ask for it.
that rent sounds cheap to me. i live in a 2 bed mid terrace as well and i pay £495. i am a bit further south than manchester but hey does sound cheap with the rental prices around here. Going to have to move next summer to somewhere closer to my daughters secondary school and somewhere with 3 bedrooms and i'm going to have to pay anywhere from £600-£700 a month :(
#25
I've asked about rent increase in the past without problem, also when I;ve increase rent on tenants I do tend to specify a reason but it is rare.

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/rent_and_rent_increases/private_tenancies

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/rent_and_rent_increases
#26
missp27
Randa1
I'm in south manchester and it's a 2 bed mid terrace my rents about £415. They dont really do anything to the house, i've been here 3 years and all they done is fix things that break, although they do give us paint if we ask for it.
that rent sounds cheap to me. i live in a 2 bed mid terrace as well and i pay £495. i am a bit further south than manchester but hey does sound cheap with the rental prices around here. Going to have to move next summer to somewhere closer to my daughters secondary school and somewhere with 3 bedrooms and i'm going to have to pay anywhere from £600-£700 a month :(

This area is one of the cheaper ones, half a mile down the road in Heaton Moor i'd be paying £100 more a month for a 2 bed flat, but thats why i moved here.
#27
Randa1
I would love a new bathroom, it's a lovely 70's avocado green suite....

Oo I have one of those with our rented house.
#28
Adam2050
Randa1
I would love a new bathroom, it's a lovely 70's avocado green suite....
Oo I have one of those with our rented house.

me too!
#29
schizoboy
I've asked about rent increase in the past without problem, also when I;ve increase rent on tenants I do tend to specify a reason but it is rare.http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/rent_and_rent_increases/private_tenancieshttp://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/rent_and_rent_increases

looks like i'm stuffed, i also have to sign a new contract which locks me into another 6 month tenancy, so even if i wanted to move i'll have to pay a penalty! brilliant.
#30
Randa1
schizoboy
I've asked about rent increase in the past without problem, also when I;ve increase rent on tenants I do tend to specify a reason but it is rare.http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/rent_and_rent_increases/private_tenancieshttp://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/rent_and_rent_increases
looks like i'm stuffed, i also have to sign a new contract which locks me into another 6 month tenancy, so even if i wanted to move i'll have to pay a penalty! brilliant.
it takes a good couple of months to move anyway what with finding somewhere and then giving your months notice in, it maybe what you have to do, sign again for six months while you're looking :|
#31
Randa1
schizoboy
I've asked about rent increase in the past without problem, also when I;ve increase rent on tenants I do tend to specify a reason but it is rare.http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/rent_and_rent_increases/private_tenancieshttp://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/paying_for_a_home/rent_and_rent_increases


looks like i'm stuffed, i also have to sign a new contract which locks me into another 6 month tenancy, so even if i wanted to move i'll have to pay a penalty! brilliant.


You could always go into the detail into the legal and council options you have on rent increases, suggest that it's awfully full of red tape and cumbersome and imply you would be better off steering clear of such things.

Instead imply that you would like better value for money, certain things in the house aren't quite up the scratch given the new price rise etc.
Clearly you know them etc, but I'd want something for my increased rent payments, I suggest you start a christmas list :)
#32
Randa1

looks like i'm stuffed, i also have to sign a new contract which locks me into another 6 month tenancy, so even if i wanted to move i'll have to pay a penalty! brilliant.


You can agree to a rent increase without extending your contract if your landlord agrees.
This way, you are free to look for another property.


schizoboy


You could always go into the detail into the legal and council options you have on rent increases, suggest that it's awfully full of red tape and cumbersome and imply you would be better off steering clear of such things.


Legal and council options?
Full of red tape, and cumbersome?
Do you actually know what you are talking about?

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