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Has anyone ever appealed against CSA's calculation and been successful?

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They've made a big mess up calculating payments even though all the proof is there - not sure if its worth appealing though as its like what they say, goes! Read More
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6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
They've made a big mess up calculating payments even though all the proof is there - not sure if its worth appealing though as its like what they say, goes!
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6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
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banned#1
is this on the old system or the new? as the new is pretty straight forward, what do you mean messed up the calculations
#2
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#3
sassie
is this on the old system or the new? as the new is pretty straight forward, what do you mean messed up the calculations


Its the new system... We've already appealed by phone, but they've sent a new letter & the calculations are worse.

The person in question is not working, lost his job in May, claimed JSA from June but CSA have stated the person worked up until end of August?, CSA have stated they have to pay £11 p/w from May - end Aug, the £5 p/w from end Aug til Sept. P45 is there to prove person was not working from May... Also JSA would not pay if they were still working? But they refuse to accept this?
banned#4
i would reply in writing again showing all confirmation of the above and send by recorded mail, they dont know there **** from their elbow
#5
the csa are a bunch of idiots, my sisters been dealing with them for years and they are so useless, her ex owes £1000s in csa and they give him chance after chance after chance when he doesnt pay up, he was going to court then as he paid on the last day of the time limit they let him off again, but then he doesnt pay again so basically he will never pay off his arrears as it keeps going up and up as he never pays each week. its more like father support agency than child support agency.
#6
pink-ka
the csa are a bunch of idiots, my sisters been dealing with them for years and they are so useless, her ex owes £1000s in csa and they give him chance after chance after chance when he doesnt pay up, he was going to court then as he paid on the last day of the time limit they let him off again, but then he doesnt pay again so basically he will never pay off his arrears as it keeps going up and up as he never pays each week. its more like father support agency than child support agency.

i am in exactly the same position...my ex did the same....they eventually arrested his wages at source...and guess what....the office FORGOT to deduct it from his wages...no penalties for that tho, and by the next month he had left the job...went on and on like this. He too is owe me thousands and thousands. CSA are only useful if the father wants to pay for his children
#7
karagh
pink-ka
the csa are a bunch of idiots, my sisters been dealing with them for years and they are so useless, her ex owes £1000s in csa and they give him chance after chance after chance when he doesnt pay up, he was going to court then as he paid on the last day of the time limit they let him off again, but then he doesnt pay again so basically he will never pay off his arrears as it keeps going up and up as he never pays each week. its more like father support agency than child support agency.
i am in exactly the same position...my ex did the same....they eventually arrested his wages at source...and guess what....the office FORGOT to deduct it from his wages...no penalties for that tho, and by the next month he had left the job...went on and on like this. He too is owe me thousands and thousands. CSA are only useful if the father wants to pay for his children


something similar happened with my sisters case, because of one minor detail that was wrong, something to do with the exs work they had to start from scratch, my sister was so close to giving up with it all but she doesnt want to give her ex the satisfaction. her ex partner now has to pay bailiffs who pass the money onto the csa who then give it to my sister. i wish they would lock him up for a month and show him they mean business lol
#8
TBH...................you'll have more luck finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.


The CSA are ****.
banned 1 Like #9
You should take sassie's advice.

She is an elite expert.
1 Like #10
appeals for csa

dwp appeals

They do get looked at.

You send a letter of complaint recorded, they have to respond to them. Every DWP department has a complaints section who deal with all complaints, I cannot remember the exact ins and outs but I know they have a set timescale which they have to adhere to, (rough memory seems to recall 30 days for some kind of contact, even if it is just an acknowledgement).

I would strongly suggest however that you see your local MP at there next closest 'surgery'. Or possibly send an email to their office. If you google them you will find contact details. If they are willing to listen to your case, they may pursue it on your behalf. An Mp's inquiry is treated very seriously by DWP, and they kinda of jump the queue to be dealt with.

Don't just give up with the CSA, they need a foot up the proverbial anyway.

p.s. I used to work for DWP so not just telling you any old nonsense
1 Like #11
splatsplatsplat
http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/children_condom1-jpg.jpg

gosh some people p*** me off !
#12
never give up fo your ight to get whats due to your children, i fought the old system for over 10years calling sometimes on a monthly basis, then when the new lot took over suddenly my voice was heard and he owes thousands which will eventually (hopefully) get paid back he was getting off with £20 a month for two children which should have been £400. Im now going for a departure against inconsistent lifestyle which is a little harder to prove but im doing for my kids and this keeps me driven.
keep all calls noted with names, write letters often to keep your point coming forward if you sit back they will let you.
good luck. x
#13
I have witnessed 3 different families go through hell with the CSA -

They make the rules up, they demand stupid amounts of money from some people and give amounts of money to mothers who DO NOT DESERVE IT because they spend diddly squat on the kids.
#14
hmm. im a father. Twice the csa have told me i need pay nothing. just as well, it costs me a small fortune just to be able to see my son, even though it was it his mothers choice to put me in the situation where we split.
i know how i feel about these kind of situations, thankfully, my case was assessed by someone with common sense.
#15
sr5
splatsplatsplat
http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/children_condom1-jpg.jpg
gosh some people p*** me off !
why?
#16
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)
1 Like #17
micoo
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)


erm are you for real??? if you got a 'bird preggo' (highly edcuated i see) it's your responsibility too! if you don't want a baby then, in the words of jeremy Kyle put something on the end of it!

rant over and good luck to those having to tdeal wih the half wits at CSA!¬
#18
monkey madness
micoo
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)


erm are you for real??? if you got a 'bird preggo' (highly edcuated i see) it's your responsibility too! if you don't want a baby then, in the words of jeremy Kyle put something on the end of it!

rant over and good luck to those having to tdeal wih the half wits at CSA!¬


Top of my class at uni thanks.

IMO opinion my responsibility ends when she ignores my suggestion of an abortion. Not that it matters anyway since i always use protection, last week i went home with a trainee nurse, got what id went to hers for and left before she asked me for my number, that is double protection.
#19
sassie
i would reply in writing again showing all confirmation of the above and send by recorded mail, they dont know there **** from their elbow


Would you suggest sending originals of the backup information or copies? I'm worried about the CSA losing my documents, then I'll have to go out and acquire all proofs again :-(
#20
starsparkle2311

OMG that is so funny, you are so witty, like not!!


I'd usually be hurt with a comment like that, but you sound like an 8yr American girl.
#21
micoo
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)

Grow up son..
banned#22
splatsplatsplat
starsparkle2311

OMG that is so funny, you are so witty, like not!!


I'd usually be hurt with a comment like that, but you sound like an 8yr American girl.


what did you mean by your picture?
banned#23
micoo
monkey madness
micoo
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)

erm are you for real??? if you got a 'bird preggo' (highly edcuated i see) it's your responsibility too! if you don't want a baby then, in the words of jeremy Kyle put something on the end of it!

rant over and good luck to those having to tdeal wih the half wits at CSA!¬

Top of my class at uni thanks.

IMO opinion my responsibility ends when she ignores my suggestion of an abortion. Not that it matters anyway since i always use protection, last week i went home with a trainee nurse, got what id went to hers for and left before she asked me for my number, that is double protection.
what a low life! or r u just on the troll again?
#24
What a moron!!

micoo
monkey madness
micoo
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)
erm are you for real??? if you got a 'bird preggo' (highly edcuated i see) it's your responsibility too! if you don't want a baby then, in the words of jeremy Kyle put something on the end of it! rant over and good luck to those having to tdeal wih the half wits at CSA!¬
Top of my class at uni thanks.IMO opinion my responsibility ends when she ignores my suggestion of an abortion. Not that it matters anyway since i always use protection, last week i went home with a trainee nurse, got what id went to hers for and left before she asked me for my number, that is double protection.
#25
Pr3cious18
sassie
i would reply in writing again showing all confirmation of the above and send by recorded mail, they dont know there **** from their elbow
Would you suggest sending originals of the backup information or copies? I'm worried about the CSA losing my documents, then I'll have to go out and acquire all proofs again :-(


God no don't send your originals. You need to get some verified copies (signed and verified by CAB, someone from local council, at your local job centre etc).
#26
silkymolo
Pr3cious18
sassie
i would reply in writing again showing all confirmation of the above and send by recorded mail, they dont know there **** from their elbow
Would you suggest sending originals of the backup information or copies? I'm worried about the CSA losing my documents, then I'll have to go out and acquire all proofs again :-(


God no don't send your originals. You need to get some verified copies (signed and verified by CAB, someone from local council, at your local job centre etc).


Really!!! I have to get them signed and verified (such a long winded process) :(
#27
csiman
micoo
monkey madness
micoo
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)


erm are you for real??? if you got a 'bird preggo' (highly edcuated i see) it's your responsibility too! if you don't want a baby then, in the words of jeremy Kyle put something on the end of it!

rant over and good luck to those having to tdeal wih the half wits at CSA!¬


Top of my class at uni thanks.

IMO opinion my responsibility ends when she ignores my suggestion of an abortion. Not that it matters anyway since i always use protection, last week i went home with a trainee nurse, got what id went to hers for and left before she asked me for my number, that is double protection.

what a low life! or r u just on the troll again?


lol dont remember posting that, but ye i was on the troll X)

Of course i would stick around if i got a bird pregnant, that last bit about leaving straight after was true though X)
banned#28
micoo
csiman
micoo
monkey madness
micoo
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)


erm are you for real??? if you got a 'bird preggo' (highly edcuated i see) it's your responsibility too! if you don't want a baby then, in the words of jeremy Kyle put something on the end of it!

rant over and good luck to those having to tdeal wih the half wits at CSA!¬


Top of my class at uni thanks.

IMO opinion my responsibility ends when she ignores my suggestion of an abortion. Not that it matters anyway since i always use protection, last week i went home with a trainee nurse, got what id went to hers for and left before she asked me for my number, that is double protection.

what a low life! or r u just on the troll again?


lol dont remember posting that, but ye i was on the troll X)

Of course i would stick around if i got a bird pregnant, that last bit about leaving straight after was true though X)

LOL - fair enough then. Expect she was a right minger :D
banned#29
Pr3cious18


Really!!! I have to get them signed and verified (such a long winded process) :(


as already said only send copies and send recorded so you know they have received them, also as silky has said if things are wrong and you arent getting anywhere then go to the complaints, once they have things then things tend to move pretty quickly
#30
hahaha Micoo when i read that post I just knew you were steaming when you wrote it X)
#31
csiman
micoo
csiman
micoo
monkey madness
micoo
personally i think its a load of bull, if i got a bird preggo and she demanded CSA when she had it id tell her to **** off and get an abortion (unless she was a mid/long term gf)


erm are you for real??? if you got a 'bird preggo' (highly edcuated i see) it's your responsibility too! if you don't want a baby then, in the words of jeremy Kyle put something on the end of it!

rant over and good luck to those having to tdeal wih the half wits at CSA!¬


Top of my class at uni thanks.

IMO opinion my responsibility ends when she ignores my suggestion of an abortion. Not that it matters anyway since i always use protection, last week i went home with a trainee nurse, got what id went to hers for and left before she asked me for my number, that is double protection.

what a low life! or r u just on the troll again?


lol dont remember posting that, but ye i was on the troll X)

Of course i would stick around if i got a bird pregnant, that last bit about leaving straight after was true though X)

LOL - fair enough then. Expect she was a right minger :D


she was alright but i slummed it a wee bit X)
bossyboots
hahaha Micoo when i read that post I just knew you were steaming when you wrote it X)


looool was out my nut X)
banned#32
sassie
Pr3cious18


Really!!! I have to get them signed and verified (such a long winded process) :(


as already said only send copies and send recorded so you know they have received them, also as silky has said if things are wrong and you arent getting anywhere then go to the complaints, once they have things then things tend to move pretty quickly


We are so lucky to have someone so knowledgable.
#33
Hi can u help ,partners beening paying maintenace since 2005 ,got all letters of wht is beening stopped out of his wages and wht payments have been recieved to receive a call today tht he is in arrears of 6,000 but none of his letters show or state arrears ,wht should he do !!!
#34
Csa havnt got a clue. I earn 200 a week take home and they take 82.00 a week off me Inc arrears,my rent is 89.00 a week ,that leaves me 28.00 to live on ,absolute tits they are,surely they can't take that much any ideas anyone,I have my 2 boys every other weekend and have done for last 14 years ,they just force people to go on the dole
banned 2 Likes #35
Children cost more than £82 a week to raise
#36
jonlewdani1
Csa havnt got a clue. I earn 200 a week take home and they take 82.00 a week off me Inc arrears,my rent is 89.00 a week ,that leaves me 28.00 to live on ,absolute tits they are,surely they can't take that much any ideas anyone,I have my 2 boys every other weekend and have done for last 14 years ,they just force people to go on the dole
must be tough with just 28.00 to live on, have you considered going self employed so you have more control and csa cannot easily affect you?
2 Likes #37
CookinBat
jonlewdani1
Csa havnt got a clue. I earn 200 a week take home and they take 82.00 a week off me Inc arrears,my rent is 89.00 a week ,that leaves me 28.00 to live on ,absolute tits they are,surely they can't take that much any ideas anyone,I have my 2 boys every other weekend and have done for last 14 years ,they just force people to go on the dole
must be tough with just 28.00 to live on, have you considered going self employed so you have more control and csa cannot easily affect you?

Or how about just taking responsibility for your actions, rather than look for ways to reduce the payments?
1 Like #38
teh arn
CookinBat
jonlewdani1
Csa havnt got a clue. I earn 200 a week take home and they take 82.00 a week off me Inc arrears,my rent is 89.00 a week ,that leaves me 28.00 to live on ,absolute tits they are,surely they can't take that much any ideas anyone,I have my 2 boys every other weekend and have done for last 14 years ,they just force people to go on the dole
must be tough with just 28.00 to live on, have you considered going self employed so you have more control and csa cannot easily affect you?

Or how about just taking responsibility for your actions, rather than look for ways to reduce the payments?
oh lawdy..moral advice from you lol.. no one mentioned shirking responsibility he should pay what he can realistically afford, trust me you cannot always rely on the csa to be fair minded..
banned#39
CookinBat
teh arn
CookinBat
jonlewdani1
Csa havnt got a clue. I earn 200 a week take home and they take 82.00 a week off me Inc arrears,my rent is 89.00 a week ,that leaves me 28.00 to live on ,absolute tits they are,surely they can't take that much any ideas anyone,I have my 2 boys every other weekend and have done for last 14 years ,they just force people to go on the dole
must be tough with just 28.00 to live on, have you considered going self employed so you have more control and csa cannot easily affect you?



Or how about just taking responsibility for your actions, rather than look for ways to reduce the payments?
oh lawdy..moral advice from you lol.. no one mentioned shirking responsibility he should pay what he can realistically afford, trust me you cannot always rely on the csa to be fair minded..

How about having kids when you can afford to pay for them? Take a second job if necessary.
#40
toshapetriji
CookinBat
teh arn
CookinBat
jonlewdani1
Csa havnt got a clue. I earn 200 a week take home and they take 82.00 a week off me Inc arrears,my rent is 89.00 a week ,that leaves me 28.00 to live on ,absolute tits they are,surely they can't take that much any ideas anyone,I have my 2 boys every other weekend and have done for last 14 years ,they just force people to go on the dole
must be tough with just 28.00 to live on, have you considered going self employed so you have more control and csa cannot easily affect you?



Or how about just taking responsibility for your actions, rather than look for ways to reduce the payments?
oh lawdy..moral advice from you lol.. no one mentioned shirking responsibility he should pay what he can realistically afford, trust me you cannot always rely on the csa to be fair minded..

How about having kids when you can afford to pay for them? Take a second job if necessary.
not sure if your comment is aimed at me but I'm talking about a couple who lived together so affordability
was not an issue until a split occurs..

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