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Has anyone received a cold weather payment for this month?

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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
Has anyone who is in receipt of Income Support, Income-based Jobseekers Allowance or Income-related Employment and Support Allowance and has a child under 5 received any of their cold weather payments from when we had the snow at the beginning of the month?
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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#1
my mum did. £25
you need to look on their site to check for your area?
#3


links are all in this thread x
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thanks ilovepink shall reply on that thread X)
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oh great, another reason im worse off working. thanks!
#6
splatsplatsplat
oh great, another reason im worse off working. thanks!


HAHA
#7
splatsplatsplat
oh great, another reason im worse off working. thanks!


Ridiculous isn't it

Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Dec 16, 2010 11:52
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jayjayuk1234
splatsplatsplat
oh great, another reason im worse off working. thanks!


Rediculous isn't it


No, it's ridiculous......:p
#9
guv
jayjayuk1234
splatsplatsplat
oh great, another reason im worse off working. thanks!


Rediculous isn't it


No, it's ridiculous......:p


i'd better correct the typo then , lol
banned#10
we should let the **** freeze to death, that would free up some money
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lumoruk
we should let the **** freeze to death, that would free up some money

you not think thats abit harsh? i get them at the moment because dispite the fact my partner works he doesnt earn that much. i didnt ask for the payments id be just as happy without it to be honest but some people need the extra funds
banned 2 Likes #12
Ahh the anti-benefit brigade in full swing already.
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lumoruk
we should let the **** freeze to death, that would free up some money

you not think thats abit harsh? i get them at the moment because dispite the fact my partner works he doesnt earn that much. i didnt ask for the payments id be just as happy without it to be honest but some people need the extra funds


my husband works outside in all weathers all hrs and is on low pay,we get wtc and av a child on middle rate disbilty annnnnd a child 1yr old but still dont get it :(
I think all house holds with children under a certain age should get it,even if thy av to put a threshhold on it!
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Having an 18 month old son and my wife currently unemployed, i can fully appreciate how important it is to keep the house warm. We had the heating on constantly during the cold weather.

We don’t qualify to these kind of payments, as my salary is too high. Which i feel is fair, i can afford to heat my house like that. So i should not get this payment.

I think cold weather payments are quite right though, i’d hate to be on a low income and worrying about my next gas bill.. It’s a benefit which is fair, as you need a child under 5 in order to qualify (and i don’t think anyone would disagree that keeping the house warm for that reason is vital)..

It’s only given out when it’s required (cold weather over a certain period of time), you also need to be on some kind of other benefit in order to get it..


Edited By: spritey on Dec 16, 2010 12:11
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lumoruk
we should let the **** freeze to death, that would free up some money

you not think thats abit harsh? i get them at the moment because dispite the fact my partner works he doesnt earn that much. i didnt ask for the payments id be just as happy without it to be honest but some people need the extra funds

then why take it? oO
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csiman
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lumoruk
we should let the **** freeze to death, that would free up some money

you not think thats abit harsh? i get them at the moment because dispite the fact my partner works he doesnt earn that much. i didnt ask for the payments id be just as happy without it to be honest but some people need the extra funds

then why take it? oO

because dispite asking for them to stop the payment they havent.i have a 10month old son which is why i have qualified also.
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tinkerbell28
csiman
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[quote=lumoruk] we should let the **** freeze to death, that would free up some money
you not think thats abit harsh? i get them at the moment because dispite the fact my partner works he doesnt earn that much. i didnt ask for the payments id be just as happy without it to be honest but some people need the extra funds
then why take it? oO


It's automatic I believe.

I somewhat agree but £25 a week is quite excessive. 4 bed detached here and isnt that much even in extremes. Its meant to be a top up, not to actually pay the entire bill surely....
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spritey
Having an 18 month old son and my wife currently unemployed, i can fully appreciate how important it is to keep the house warm. We had the heating on constantly during the cold weather.

We don’t qualify to these kind of payments, as my salary is too high. Which i feel is fair, i can afford to heat my house like that. So i should not get this payment.

I think cold weather payments are quite right though, i’d hate to be on a low income and worrying about my next gas bill.. It’s a benefit which is fair, as you need a child under 5 in order to qualify (and i don’t think anyone would disagree that keeping the house warm for that reason is vital)..

It’s only given out when it’s required (cold weather over a certain period of time), you also need to be on some kind of other benefit in order to get it..


sorry if it is too blunt to accept, but imo if you cannot guarantee that you have sufficient finances for at least 5 years, you should not even be considering having a child in the first place. It is one of the reason this country is in the state it's in.



Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Dec 16, 2010 12:21
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jayjayuk1234
sorry if it is too blunt to accept, but imo if you cannot guarantee that you have suffiecient finances for at least 5 years, you should not even be considering having a child. It is one of the reason this country is in the state it's in.

Sorry for being blunt, you’re a complete idiot.

How can anyone guarantee they have sufficient funds for 5 years...

If you can’t see the stupidity of your own comments, i think you may be eligible for disability allowance.

Edited By: spritey on Dec 16, 2010 12:23
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spritey
jayjayuk1234
sorry if it is too blunt to accept, but imo if you cannot guarantee that you have suffiecient finances for at least 5 years, you should not even be considering having a child. It is one of the reason this country is in the state it's in.


Sorry for being blunt, you’re a complete idiot.

How can anyone guarantee they have sufficient funds for 5 years...


having enough money in the bank to secure your childs future instead of scrounging off the state in case u screw up
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spritey
jayjayuk1234
having enough money in the bank to secure your childs future instead of scrounging off the state in case u screw up


Based on the average gas / electricity cost per month in the U.K, somebody needs around £6600 sitting in their bank account before they are permitted to give birth.


If thats the case, so be it, children cost money, it is irresponsible to bring up a child on a wing and a prayer.
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csiman
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lumoruk
we should let the **** freeze to death, that would free up some money

you not think thats abit harsh? i get them at the moment because dispite the fact my partner works he doesnt earn that much. i didnt ask for the payments id be just as happy without it to be honest but some people need the extra funds

then why take it? oO

because dispite asking for them to stop the payment they havent.i have a 10month old son which is why i have qualified also.


if u dont mind me asking wat benefit r u on if ur partners working an r in recipte of this payment, coz iv 5 kids at home, 1s classed disabled nd 1 is a yr old, i dont get it..i think its coz of fact we get wtc yet we get wtc coz my husbands on a low income, i get disabled wtc for my son but not in recipt of income support,Income based Jobseeker’s Allowance,Income-related Employment Support Allowance,its a vicious circle...Mayb my kids dnt need to b as warm as those whose parentsr onthem benefits...gve it to allfamilies with children under,5 i say no matter wat benefits thyr on or not on ........
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how about those who where in the forces fighting for their country, had a 22 year future but become injured and unable to carry on? i guess im just a scrounger then am i? no im not so think before you type!
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tinkerbell28
jayjayuk1234
spritey
jayjayuk1234
having enough money in the bank to secure your childs future instead of scrounging off the state in case u screw up
Based on the average gas / electricity cost per month in the U.K, somebody needs around £6600 sitting in their bank account before they are permitted to give birth.
If thats the case, so be it, children cost money, it is irresponsible to bring up a child on a wing and a prayer.


You really are stupid or 12.


Ha, i have 4 kids, never claimed benefits, and i'm stupid?

I'm just sick of susidising other people, who bring children into the world without the financial security they need.

If you are looking for someone whos stupid, u should look in the mirror cupcake.

Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Dec 16, 2010 12:32
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sig1169
how about those who where in the forces fighting for their country, had a 22 year future but become injured and unable to carry on? i guess im just a scrounger then am i? no im not so think before you type!


You get a payout for an injury, and besides, you should have insurance to cover that...( if you were a responsible person of course ) lame excuse.. try again.

Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Dec 16, 2010 12:35
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jayjayuk1234
sig1169
how about those who where in the forces fighting for their country, had a 22 year future but become injured and unable to carry on? i guess im just a scrounger then am i? no im not so think before you type!


You get a payout for an injury, and besides, you should have insurance to cover that...( if you were a responsible person of course ) lame excuse.. try again.

get a grip will you. i had insurance! you need to get of your high horse and take your petty self elsewere!
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tinkerbell28
jayjayuk1234
tinkerbell28
jayjayuk1234
spritey
jayjayuk1234
having enough money in the bank to secure your childs future instead of scrounging off the state in case u screw up
Based on the average gas / electricity cost per month in the U.K, somebody needs around £6600 sitting in their bank account before they are permitted to give birth.
If thats the case, so be it, children cost money, it is irresponsible to bring up a child on a wing and a prayer.
You really are stupid or 12.
Ha, i have 4 kids, never claimed benefits, and i'm stupid? I'm just sick of susidising other people, who bring children into the world without the financial security they need.


Yes you are stupid to have such a blinered view of the world.

People may well of had the financial security when having children, but may have been made suddenly redundant and unable to find work, easy if you specialise in a field. They may of had a serious illness, or a severe road accident which means they can't work for many years if again.

So yes, you are stupid. Or just horrible, either way just think youself lucky you obviously have not been misfortunate.


You made this personal not me, it is my opinion, people are too used to being wrapped up in cotton wool in this country, there really is no excuse for not being covered for every eventuality, if you cannot manage that, then don't have kids..
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jayjayuk1234
tinkerbell28
jayjayuk1234
spritey
jayjayuk1234
having enough money in the bank to secure your childs future instead of scrounging off the state in case u screw up
Based on the average gas / electricity cost per month in the U.K, somebody needs around £6600 sitting in their bank account before they are permitted to give birth.
If thats the case, so be it, children cost money, it is irresponsible to bring up a child on a wing and a prayer.


You really are stupid or 12.


Ha, i have 4 kids, never claimed benefits, and i'm stupid?

I'm just sick of susidising other people, who bring children into the world without the financial security they need.


Funny that, because I'm sure a lot of people are sick of hearing workers whining and moaning about how they are subsidising other people. You'd be paying the same amount of tax irregardless and moaning about something else you were 'subsiding', if not this, so people who make out like they're worse off as a result and talk about how it's coming out of their pocket just sound ridiculous and are probably moaning as they enjoy feeling superior.

People who are out of work whether through unemployment, health reasons or are raising a child have likely worked in the past and will likely work again. When they work, they pay their taxes which assist them and others in their time of need. I have no issue with negativity towards legitimate cheats, but the all-around negative attitude towards anyone claiming a benefit is pathetic.

Also, life is not as simple as 'bringing a child into the world without the financial security they need'. It's often not planned and there are always various unpredictable circumstances to be contended with- to suggest it's as simple as 'only people who have the money and secure backup in the event of things going wrong should have children' is unrealistic and a viewpoint of someone who clearly has no idea how the real world operates.
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cookiemonster83
jayjayuk1234
tinkerbell28
jayjayuk1234
spritey
jayjayuk1234
having enough money in the bank to secure your childs future instead of scrounging off the state in case u screw up
Based on the average gas / electricity cost per month in the U.K, somebody needs around £6600 sitting in their bank account before they are permitted to give birth.
If thats the case, so be it, children cost money, it is irresponsible to bring up a child on a wing and a prayer.


You really are stupid or 12.


Ha, i have 4 kids, never claimed benefits, and i'm stupid?

I'm just sick of susidising other people, who bring children into the world without the financial security they need.


Funny that, because I'm sure a lot of people are sick of hearing workers whining and moaning about how they are subsidising other people. You'd be paying the same amount of tax irregardless and moaning about something else you were 'subsiding', if not this, so people who make out like they're worse off as a result and talk about how it's coming out of their pocket just sound ridiculous and are probably moaning as they enjoy feeling superior.

People who are out of work whether through unemployment, health reasons or are raising a child have likely worked in the past and will likely work again. When they work, they pay their taxes which assist them and others in their time of need. I have no issue with negativity towards legitimate cheats, but the all-around negative attitude towards anyone claiming a benefit is pathetic.

Also, life is not as simple as 'bringing a child into the world without the financial security they need'. It's often not planned and there are always various unpredictable circumstances to be contended with- to suggest it's as simple as 'only people who have the money and secure backup in the event of things going wrong should have children' is unrealistic and a viewpoint of someone who clearly has no idea how the real world operates.


I know how the real world operates, badly....

And yet again, you clearly miss my point. You should be prepared for every possibility, including your own death. You can conjour up any given situation for why you can no longer afford to support your child, but they are all the same at the end of the day.

If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off financially, not worse off.


Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Dec 16, 2010 12:50
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cookiemonster83
jayjayuk1234
tinkerbell28
jayjayuk1234
spritey
jayjayuk1234
having enough money in the bank to secure your childs future instead of scrounging off the state in case u screw up
Based on the average gas / electricity cost per month in the U.K, somebody needs around £6600 sitting in their bank account before they are permitted to give birth.
If thats the case, so be it, children cost money, it is irresponsible to bring up a child on a wing and a prayer.


You really are stupid or 12.


Ha, i have 4 kids, never claimed benefits, and i'm stupid?

I'm just sick of susidising other people, who bring children into the world without the financial security they need.


Funny that, because I'm sure a lot of people are sick of hearing workers whining and moaning about how they are subsidising other people. You'd be paying the same amount of tax irregardless and moaning about something else you were 'subsiding', if not this, so people who make out like they're worse off as a result and talk about how it's coming out of their pocket just sound ridiculous and are probably moaning as they enjoy feeling superior.

People who are out of work whether through unemployment, health reasons or are raising a child have likely worked in the past and will likely work again. When they work, they pay their taxes which assist them and others in their time of need. I have no issue with negativity towards legitimate cheats, but the all-around negative attitude towards anyone claiming a benefit is pathetic.

Also, life is not as simple as 'bringing a child into the world without the financial security they need'. It's often not planned and there are always various unpredictable circumstances to be contended with- to suggest it's as simple as 'only people who have the money and secure backup in the event of things going wrong should have children' is unrealistic and a viewpoint of someone who clearly has no idea how the real world operates.


TBF... There are lots of people out there getting knocked up JUST to get benefit. I'm a socialist, so I'm happy the welfare state exists. I'm not so happy about supporting chav like behaviour.
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jayjayuk1234


If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off, not worse off.


Reading your comments i think i agree that they would.
#32
guv
TBF... There are lots of people out there getting knocked up JUST to get benefit. I'm a socialist, so I'm happy the welfare state exists. I'm not so happy about supporting chav like behaviour.


I'm not saying that everyone on benefits is innocent, I even stated that there is a certain subset of contemptible claimants. People who deliberately get pregnant, well aware of the fact they are provisioned for, are one of those contemptible groups in my opinion- but to claim all parents who have children and have to rely either partly or wholly on the system is unfair due to the reasons I mentioned. Some things are unforseeable or unavoidable, life is just never as simple as being 'ever-prepared' for a kid to come along. Which, in reflection, is an overly elaborate way of saying what you said :D

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Edited By: cookiemonster83 on Dec 16, 2010 12:57
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jayjayuk1234


If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off, not worse off.


Reading your comments i think i agree that they would.


And why? because i'm one of the rare few who actually planned having kids, and made sure they were financially secure and not just thought, ah well, its a bit of a squeeze, but theres always benefits? Perhaps you sleep around with multiple partners and have lots of kids floaitng around that the state pays for?
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jayjayuk1234
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jayjayuk1234


If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off, not worse off.


Reading your comments i think i agree that they would.


And why? because i'm one of the rare few who actually planned having kids, and made sure they were financially secure and not just thought, ah well, its a bit of a squeeze, but theres always benefits? Perhaps you sleep around with multiple partners and have lots of kids floaitng around that the state pays for?


As I said, "probably enjoy feeling superior". You clearly think you're better than everyone else, which ipso facto means people find you to be a xxxx (insert your word of choice).
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cookiemonster83
[Which, in reflection, is an overly elaborate way of saying what you said :D



LOL
#36
cookiemonster83
jayjayuk1234
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jayjayuk1234


If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off, not worse off.


Reading your comments i think i agree that they would.


And why? because i'm one of the rare few who actually planned having kids, and made sure they were financially secure and not just thought, ah well, its a bit of a squeeze, but theres always benefits? Perhaps you sleep around with multiple partners and have lots of kids floaitng around that the state pays for?


As I said, "probably enjoy feeling superior". You clearly think you're better than everyone else, which ipso facto means people find you to be a responsible parent.


This aint about superiority, it is common sense,

Hell, i would like a ferrari, i could probably buy a really cheap one if i sold everything i own, but i wouldnt be able to maintain it, is it ok then if i ask everyone on this forum to have a whip round for me?

Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Dec 16, 2010 13:08
#37
jayjayuk1234
cookiemonster83
jayjayuk1234
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jayjayuk1234


If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off, not worse off.


Reading your comments i think i agree that they would.


And why? because i'm one of the rare few who actually planned having kids, and made sure they were financially secure and not just thought, ah well, its a bit of a squeeze, but theres always benefits? Perhaps you sleep around with multiple partners and have lots of kids floaitng around that the state pays for?


As I said, "probably enjoy feeling superior". You clearly think you're better than everyone else, which ipso facto means people find you to be a responsible parent.


This aint about superiority, it is common sense,

Hell, i would like a ferrari, i could probably buy a really cheap one if i sold everything i own, but i wouldnt be able to maintain it, is it ok then if i ask everyone on this forum to have a whip round for me?


its not really the same as one day our children will also have a job, they are adding to the economy not draining it, a car is never going to give anything back, so at least use a good example if you are going to be slagging off people and their circumstances

Edited By: tracyhay on Dec 16, 2010 13:11
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tinkerbell28
jayjayuk1234
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jayjayuk1234
If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off, not worse off.
Reading your comments i think i agree that they would.
And why? because i'm one of the rare few who actually planned having kids, and made sure they were financially secure and not just thought, ah well, its a bit of a squeeze, but theres always benefits? Perhaps you sleep around with multiple partners and have lots of kids floaitng around that the state pays for?


Ok, so if you are ever unfortunate to say have a lifelong crippling disability from say a car accident that could happen next week. Or a long term degenerative diesese

You'd be a massive lifelong burden financially to your kids and state no matter what insurance you have.

Or most likely scenario, your wife leaves you, screws you for every penny and with 4 kids to pay for you'll be stuffed. Maybe she'll see sense one day X)


I would go into a home, and my insurance would pay out, sorry, which bit didn't you understand?

Will ignore your other comment as it makes no sense.

Anyway, bored of this now
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jayjayuk1234
cookiemonster83
jayjayuk1234
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jayjayuk1234


If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off, not worse off.


Reading your comments i think i agree that they would.


And why? because i'm one of the rare few who actually planned having kids, and made sure they were financially secure and not just thought, ah well, its a bit of a squeeze, but theres always benefits? Perhaps you sleep around with multiple partners and have lots of kids floaitng around that the state pays for?


As I said, "probably enjoy feeling superior". You clearly think you're better than everyone else, which ipso facto means people find you to be a responsible parent.


This aint about superiority, it is common sense,

Hell, i would like a ferrari, i could probably buy a really cheap one if i sold everything i own, but i wouldnt be able to maintain it, is it ok then if i ask everyone on this forum to have a whip round for me?


To even the playing field a little, I agree with all of what JayJay is saying here. However he is being a bit blunt about it, and also disregarding many special cases with unforseen circumstances.

There needs to be some kind of welfare for people who cannot support themselves and their family, for all the extreme cases you are outlining (i.e. disabilities, war injuries etc), however I'd bet that doesnt even make up 1% of the population who are claiming benefits.

People need to be better educated about family planning, and only start a family when they can *guarantee* that the can support their child for the long term. They should also have contingencies and insurance for all concievable eventualities. If this were the case then I'm sure we could cut the amount of people draining the economy by a majority amount.
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jayjayuk1234
cookiemonster83
jayjayuk1234
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jayjayuk1234


If anything happens to me,my kids would be better off, not worse off.


Reading your comments i think i agree that they would.


And why? because i'm one of the rare few who actually planned having kids, and made sure they were financially secure and not just thought, ah well, its a bit of a squeeze, but theres always benefits? Perhaps you sleep around with multiple partners and have lots of kids floaitng around that the state pays for?


As I said, "probably enjoy feeling superior". You clearly think you're better than everyone else, which ipso facto means people find you to be a responsible parent.


This aint about superiority, it is common sense,

Hell, i would like a ferrari, i could probably buy a really cheap one if i sold everything i own, but i wouldnt be able to maintain it, is it ok then if i ask everyone on this forum to have a whip round for me?


its not really the same as one day our children will also have a job, they are adding to the economy not draining it, a car is never going to give anything back, so at least use a good example if you are going to be slagging off people and their circumstances


Wow, another one who feels personally threatened by my comments, everyone else thus far has argued with me with pathetic examples, i think i am allowed at least one..

I also, do not recall targetting anyone in particular, i believe i voiced an opinion, perhaps you have difficulty in differentiating between the two?

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