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HD DVD / Upscaling? / HD Information?

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9y, 8m agoPosted 9 years, 8 months ago
Hi All

Can anyone explain these terms? This is how I see it, please correct me if I'm wrong.

An upscaling DVD player plays your normal DVDs but displays a better picture and sound? Cheap to purchase like the Philips one on HUKD currently? Anyone have any experience with this?

A HD DVD player, players proper HD DVDs. The best in quality. Expensive to purchase? Anyone have any experience with this?

Whats the letters mean in 720p / 720i / 1080p / 1080i?

Is 1080 TRUE HD?

I have a Samsung 32 inch HD Ready LCD. Is this capable of displaying True HD?

:S

Thanks in Advance
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9y, 8m agoPosted 9 years, 8 months ago
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#1
Your TV will already upscale anything you input so that the pixels are filled. The main benefit to an upscaling DVD player is it may be better at that task than your TV, it also means you can use a digital connection such as HDMI from the DVD player, rather than Scart or Component.

1080P is the highest resolution available today and you can take advantage of it with a 360/PS3 and Blu-Ray/HD-DVD discs. Your TV will almost certainly not display it as there is arguably no visible benefit on TVs below 42" (or more!).
#2
MBeeching
Your TV will already upscale anything you input so that the pixels are filled. The main benefit to an upscaling DVD player is it may be better at that task than your TV, it also means you can use a digital connection such as HDMI from the DVD player, rather than Scart or Component.


Firstly, thanks for your reply.

Currently I connect my laptop to LCD via VGA and play DVDs. Should my TV have upscaled the image? I see no difference from my previous TV.

I usually spot tiny things like this but no result in this case.


oooo just read your edit, if my TV cannot display 1080P, will it display 1080i?
1 Like #3
720i & 1080i = Interlaced
720p & 1080p = Progressive

I believe connecting via a VGA lead means that you are sending an Analogue signal to the TV, if you were to use a HDMI or Digital Monitor lead, then you would be sending a digital signal to the tv and should see a difference in quality.

If your TV is relatively new and of good(ish) spec, it should display a 1080i signal, even if the maximum it will display is 720i, this should still be an improvement over standard def tv.
#4
jayhab
720i & 1080i = Interlaced
720p & 1080p = Progressive

I believe connecting via a VGA lead means that you are sending an Analogue signal to the TV, if you were to use a HDMI or Digital Monitor lead, then you would be sending a digital signal to the tv and should see a difference in quality.

If your TV is relatively new and of good(ish) spec, it should display a 1080i signal, even if the maximum it will display is 720i, this should still be an improvement over standard def tv.


Nice one, yeah its recent, samsung lcd 32.

So do you think its worth getting one of them upscaling DVD players? Would it make a big difference to playing from laptop?

Or even better a proper HD DVD player? Or is it not worth the investment on a 32?

Thanks for replying, rep added to you helpfuls
#5
I've got an 'upscaling' HDMI player at the moment and it's more than good for now. I wouldn't worry too much about resolutions and 'optimum HD settings', it'll probably make a few films look a little nicer but thats it lol It's the films you play that matter :thumbsup:
#6
Koopa
I've got an 'upscaling' HDMI player at the moment and it's more than good for now. I wouldn't worry too much about resolutions and 'optimum HD settings', it'll probably make a few films look a little nicer but thats it lol It's the films you play that matter :thumbsup:


Yeah I agree, but for me, I get sooo much more enjoyment with quality!

Am I correct to say that an upscaling DVD player, makes normal DVDs better quality.....and that a proper HD DVD plays proper HD DVDs which is much more better than upscaling a normal DVD?
1 Like #7
AFAIK that's correct yeah, but you have to remember that HD DVD/Blu ray are considerably more expensive, and at the moment there's nowhere near as much as choice...
#8
Koopa
AFAIK that's correct yeah, but you have to remember that HD DVD/Blu ray are considerably more expensive, and at the moment there's nowhere near as much as choice...


Good point!

Whats better 720i or 720p and how would you go about getting the better one? :|

Thanks, and sorry for 101 Q's

-Rep added mate - You have your 2nd green block :)
#9
Cheers for the rep mate :)

I'll leave this question to someone who knows more about resolutions though :thumbsup:
#10
Your laptop is upscaling the output, I don't think you'd find much difference between that and an upscaling DVD player. The problem there's no way to properly upscale and increase quality, the upscaling device can only guess what colours the extra pixels are - if you're watching something like Anime, it tends to upscale well as the colours are very solid. However, if you have something like sky, water or dark shadows then upscaling doesn't work so well as you have lots of very simlar colours together making it difficult to get the upscaled image correct.

HD DVD and Blu-ray are a much higher resolution, they are noticeably sharper on an HD DVD. V for Vendetta shows the advantage well, it's a very dark film with lots of shadow which means when watching on an HD DVD you get a lot of 'grain' in these dark areas. The HD DVD version has very solid black shadows as they should be - the bright red on this solid black for the Norsefire emblem looks all the more striking.

I'm not sure why you'd be comparing 720i and 720p - 720p is the obvious as it's progressive, not interlaced. The usual choice is between 720p and 1080i - 720p is a 1280x720 progressive picture whereas 1080i is a 1920x1080 interlaced picture. The latter is two 1920x540 pictures combined to produce a final 1080i image whereas a 1080p image is 1920x1080, no interlacing. I stick with 720p, works fine for me and I'm happy with the quality.

John
#11
John you sound like a living genius!

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

So there will be no noticeable difference when watching a DVD from my laptop connected to LCD via VGA, than using a DVD connected via HDMI cable?

Thanks
#12
I don't believe so, although I've only seen a couple of upscaling DVD players in action - with a laptop you also have the choice of different software dvd players if you want to get better quality. I'm happy with the laptop running through the TV for me, another advantage is that you can easily move it and hook it up to another TV.

To really gain quality you need to go with tha high def DVD drive but that opens an entirely different can of worms.

Glad I've been able to help,
John
#13
Agree with the above, though before you go out and start buying new hardware, I would investigate the connective possibilities for your current boxes. As your Samsung LCD is relatively new, it should have a nice selection of connnections, scart, componant, HDMI and VGA (that you currently use). Playing around with different connections will give you many different results.
When we got our new TV (Pana plasma), the first attempt at connecting the Samsung DVD recorder was with a Scart lead, which wasn't too good, then tried Componant cables and the improvement was huge! (Quality of leads is also important - a £3.99 scart lead is no match for a £19.99 one!) I don't currently have anything that outputs HDMI, but a friend of mine does - he has an upscaling DVD player - and the results vary - it really depends on what dvd software you're piping through.

I might suggest 1 new piece of equipment as I don't believe a laptop is the best thing to use for playing DVDs, espescially if the only connection possibility is VGA. An upscaling player can be had quite cheaply, but you do get what you pay for! If quality counts, as you say it does, look at spending between £100 & £200 - you should easily be able to get a good upscaling player, divx playback, freeview tuner and probably dvd recorder in one. The important thing to look out for above all else though is connections - fancy features are no good if the only connection is via Scart leads!
For now, (unless you're going to buy a 360 or PS3) I wouldn't bother with a HD DVD or Blu Ray player, as mentioned above, software is too expensive and choice limited. Plus if you bought one, it would only be a matter of time before you wanted to replace your current dvd collection!
#14
Thanks for your reply.

atm the lappy is connected via vga to vga, which I believe is the best quality for lappy to LCD. Picture from this is crystal clear, I cant see any room for improvement! Even little text is easily readable! DVD playback is the same as a normal DVD player and I have yet to see a upscaling DVD in action hence my posting.

Can DVD playback software improve a picture??

Any recommendations? Currently I use PowerDVD and VLC
#15
yes and no,

System specs will also determine picture quality. If you have top of the range gaming machine, then you're probably best suited, however if your laptop is a general all-rounder then there will be room for improvement.
I've always had the same opinion and have not yet seen anything that can sway me - although playstations and xboxs and laptops etc can all play dvds, it's not their primary purpose, therefore the bits and bobs inside them that enable you to play dvds, are probably the cheapest componants available - whereas using a well-specced player that is designed and built purely for doing the one job will usually do it better. Obviously, as I mentioned earlier, if you've got an all dancing, bells and whistles machine, it's going to do what it does and do it well!
Software dvd players I've found do differ considerably, i've got Powerdvd 5 and WinDVD 7, which both work pretty well, Win dvd is probably slightly better but not as stable and doesn't like all software. Once again, the player isn't as important as the bits and bobs inside the machine!
#16
Nice one mate, very helpful!

****Rep Voucher for jayhab****

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#17
You're very welcome, if you need any more info, feel free to ask.

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