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Well this is a mind bending :? which to go with HD or the ray. I seen the Toshiba laptop at pc world for £699.99 with the special offer of 5 free HD dvds. Ohhh i thought not bad, still i dont want …
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
Well this is a mind bending :? which to go with HD or the ray. I seen the Toshiba laptop at pc world for £699.99 with the special offer of 5 free HD dvds. Ohhh i thought not bad, still i dont want to end up with a system that ends up with no support like the PSP UMD movies.

Even checked out http://www.tech.co.uk see what view is on there, from what i can understand its a neck and neck race at present with same amount of film companys supporting both systems, Toshiba now bringing out bigger HD DVD discs then blu-ray.

whats your view? :thumbsup:
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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#1
first of all toshiba are bringing out 50gb discs but there not compatible with the current hd dvd players:? blu-ray have created a 100gb disc and are looking into a 200gb disc but this is all useless as nothing takes up that much space. it doesnt matter which one u choose but its more likely blu-ray will win as its in all ps3 consoles so more people will buy the movies meaning more film companies will back that format.
#2
but the flip side is are people going to buy ps3 just so they can play movies on it?
#3
Hellscaretaker
but the flip side is are people going to buy ps3 just so they can play movies on it?


no but if they did want to watch a high def movie they would pick blu-ray. so the more ps3s being sold the more blu-ray players being sold meaning the blu-ray format will succeed its competitor hd dvd as its not being forced on u to buy it.
#4
Hellscaretaker
but the flip side is are people going to buy ps3 just so they can play movies on it?


Yes some already are.
#5
I would like Hd-dvd to win,but i think blu-ray will sell more just because of the Ps3
#6
I Prefer bluray mainly because i like the bluray advert at the cinema :giggle:
#7
blu-ray sounds better and the cases look better lol:giggle:
#8
At the moment it could go either way, both formats are selling in extremely small numbers - to put it into perspective Transformers on standard DVD sold more than the total number of HD DVDs and Blu-ray titles put together since they were launched. Whichever format breaks into that mainstream market is the one that's likely to win although if the studios are stubborn we could be stuck with both formats for a while which I'm hoping is not the case, personally I would prefer one format to win out regardless of which one.

My choice is HD DVD, I like the fact that all HD DVDs are region free (although if they are combo discs the DVD side is still region locked) and generally the titles I've wanted have been HD DVD. However I have players for both formats as currently there is also content I want on the blu-ray front.

John
#9
Just wait until the hyrid drive and then just buy both

But imo hd-dvd will win because of familiarity in the name seems the logical named step up -- blu ray is ok in the ps3 for storage but wont sell films
#10
ALICOM007
no but if they did want to watch a high def movie they would pick blu-ray. so the more ps3s being sold the more blu-ray players being sold meaning the blu-ray format will succeed its competitor hd dvd as its not being forced on u to buy it.


true but i want a pc and there are both blu-ray and HD versions making me choice just want system to go with.

You say blu-ray will do well simply cause of the ps3, to me thats not enough consoles come and go
#11
That's true especially as the PS3 has been a poor seller and in the US there have been some very cheap HD DVD players which balances it out.

John
#12
Hellscaretaker
true but i want a pc and there are both blu-ray and HD versions making me choice just want system to go with.

You say blu-ray will do well simply cause of the ps3, to me thats not enough consoles come and go

nope i dont think ps3 will shift blu rays
#13
dandoc2
nope i dont think ps3 will shift blu rays

Then again... I think [not 100%] the cheapest HD player is the 360? am i not. Costing at cheapest [with a hardrive] £349.

PS3 costs £299 [with a hard drive] as a Blu-ray player..
PS3 works out cheaper.
#14
Johnmcl7
That's true especially as the PS3 has been a poor seller and in the US there have been some very cheap HD DVD players which balances it out.

John


yes the plus side of HD, in pc world there is the Toshiba HD thats comes to £699.99 while sonys blu-ray comes in at £999.99.

From one review on cnet you cant a HD DVD or blu-ray DVD part, sounds like the DVD -/+ argument
#15
[SIZE=2]I would say it's relatively close, you can get an Xbox Premium/Pro and HD DVD drive for well under the 350 mark, depending on the offers it can be had for around 300 pounds for the two.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]However that's not really the issue, the point being raised is that every PS3 sold is a blu-ray player whereas only 360s where the owner has chosen the HD DVD drive will be capable of playing the format. If the PS3 has been a very strong seller then that would have likely given a big advantage to the blu-ray format but this has not been the case as PS3 sales have generally been poor. Furthermore if looking at it in terms of cost, HD DVD players have been as cheap as 50 quid in the US.[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=2]John[/SIZE]
#16
t0mm
Then again... I think [not 100%] the cheapest HD player is the 360? am i not. Costing at cheapest [with a hardrive] £349.

PS3 costs £299 [with a hard drive] as a Blu-ray player..
PS3 works out cheaper.

£95 for the hd-dvd drive is the cheapest drive you dont need the 360 to run it just a pc which im sure everyone has
#17
t0mm
Then again... I think [not 100%] the cheapest HD player is the 360? am i not. Costing at cheapest [with a hardrive] £349.

PS3 costs £299 [with a hard drive] as a Blu-ray player..
PS3 works out cheaper.


But I DONT want a console, i want a laptop :thumbsup:
#18
dandoc2
£95 for the hd-dvd drive is the cheapest drive you dont need the 360 to run it just a pc which im sure everyone has


Nowhere near as simple as that unfortunately, firstly you need to have a reasonably powerful PC even to run 720p never mind 1080p. And even then getting it running is a complete pain in the neck as the internal connection doesn't support HDCP, I've had a lot of difficulty getting software to work and have given up on it for now.

John
#19
makes sence if it indeed was as easy as one bolt on to a pc, by now we be seeing hd-dvd drives in the shops.

Another factor could be the shops themselfs also, which format do they stock the most Asda in Stoke has a large of blu-ray i cant remember if they had hd-dvd on display. Tesco.com has both blu-ray and HD-dvd which i thought do seem dear.

They came together to give us DVD so why not the same for the next gen of disc
#20
Well they didn't really come together for DVD, everyone was happy with it (simply speaking) so it went ahead aside from the DVD- and DVD+ which sadly were able to co-exist. This time there were disagreements which led to various companies branching off to form blu-ray.

I don't think the shops stock is quite so important as they'll tend to stock whatever they can shift, if HD DVD players are more dominant they'll stock more HD DVDs and vice versa for blu-ray. Tescos here are more predominantly HD DVD and with surprisingly reasonable prices, they had 300 for 20 pounds which I didn't think bad for a high street price. Most of the time I wouldn't consider buying from the high street.

John
banned#21
The battle - HD DVD vs Blu-Ray.

I've found the answer! The toaster beats both, my expeiment involved toasting both varieties of video medium then playing them. When attempting to play the discs both ruined my blu-ray player and hd dvd player. I now entertain myself by toasting things.
#22
Hasnt the porn industry supported hd dvd if so hd dvd wins as every format they support is the best seller.
#23
ryouga
Hasnt the porn industry supported hd dvd if so hd dvd wins as every format they support is the best seller.


To be honest im not sure I thought they gone for blu-ray or maybe it was some of them?
#24
Johnmcl7
Well they didn't really come together for DVD, everyone was happy with it (simply speaking) so it went ahead aside from the DVD- and DVD+ which sadly were able to co-exist. This time there were disagreements which led to various companies branching off to form blu-ray.

I don't think the shops stock is quite so important as they'll tend to stock whatever they can shift, if HD DVD players are more dominant they'll stock more HD DVDs and vice versa for blu-ray. Tescos here are more predominantly HD DVD and with surprisingly reasonable prices, they had 300 for 20 pounds which I didn't think bad for a high street price. Most of the time I wouldn't consider buying from the high street.

John


£20 pounds for 300 yeah not bad at all, if memory saves me right weren't the first DVDs as dear as the HD and blu rays now? Now of course you can get DVD's for as little as £8 pounds.

I assuming Jonh you buy from website shops like play.com etc when you buy your HD dvds
#25
Flip a coin. It's no more certain which side it will land as which format will triumph.

Look at Betamax vs VHS. Betamax was a better format, smaller tapes, more robust and the players were better bulid quality, but who won? VHS.

I have a PS3, so I'd like Blu-Ray to overcome, but the glut of cheap HD-DVD players and free offer dics look like they will attract a lot of new customers.

:pirate: CJ :pirate:
#26
Beta Max, Mini Disc, UMD, all created by Sony, all fell on their backsides. I personaly don't see Blu-ray winning.

Also, some consumers don't really know alot about products. They will see that their TV is HD ready, and asume that the only new format that will work with their new tv is HD. so in the long run it looks like HD is going to win.
#27
cutthroat_jake
Flip a coin. It's no more certain which side it will land as which format will triumph.

Look at Betamax vs VHS. Betamax was a better format, smaller tapes, more robust and the players were better bulid quality, but who won? VHS.

I have a PS3, so I'd like Blu-Ray to overcome, but the glut of cheap HD-DVD players and free offer dics look like they will attract a lot of new customers.

:pirate: CJ :pirate:


I fact i didnt know up to a few years ago Betamax was still going strong in Japan untill Sony stoped making them. Wasn't all down to who supported which format the most that ended up with VHS being the winner?
#28
Kitten13
Beta Max, Mini Disc, UMD, all created by Sony, all fell on their backsides. I personaly don't see Blu-ray winning.

Also, some consumers don't really know alot about products. They will see that their TV is HD ready, and asume that the only new format that will work with their new tv is HD. so in the long run it looks like HD is going to win.


Yet Sony also given us the wakeman, the first DVD Video Cams and not forgetting Playstation which many thought never would take off.

You do rise a good point people just assume HD TV will only be best with HD players yet the blu-ray will do just the same job.
#29
t0mm
Then again... I think [not 100%] the cheapest HD player is the 360? am i not. Costing at cheapest [with a hardrive] £349.

PS3 costs £299 [with a hard drive] as a Blu-ray player..
PS3 works out cheaper.

PS3 is the cheapest Blu-ray player hands down, but most people don't want a console...

Yes, the HD-DVD add on for Xbox is £99, making it aprox £45 more, but if you're looking at standalones, HD-DVD players are £180 compared to very expensive standalone Blu-ray payers...

If you're going to look at it from a Film fans perspective who does not want a games console, then the HD-DVD stands a better chance.

In my honest opinion, I think both formats are here to stay, so all the arguments are pointless.

They'll just end up releasing the dual format player or the dual format disc (as rumoured by Warner).
#30
Dual players are now out, but by no means are they cheap but give it a couple of years. At present i some film companys will only support one format like Disney with Blu-ray while Paramount has droped blu-ray and gone to HD-DVD instead which has leveled the playing field of film companys support either format.

Still i've swing towards HD-DVD with its none region lock (i hope it stays like that :whistling: ) just looking on movietyme (thanks john :thumbsup: ) and transformers HD is just £17.99 kind of price you once payed for a double DVD untill the recent price war between the supermarkets has brought the prices crashing down. I be having that thank you very much :thumbsup:

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