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had a nasty fall at work on friday thrown in air about six feet and landed on my head on concrete also twisting my leg and damaging my shoulder knocked out for a few seconds not sure how long but … Read More
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7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
had a nasty fall at work on friday thrown in air about six feet and landed on my head on concrete also
twisting my leg and damaging my shoulder knocked out for a few seconds not sure how long but less than a minute.

i was due in on overtime on saturday but was in pain with my leg/shoulder and was vomiting and dizzy spells so didnt go

anybody know if you can receive a warning for not working overtime?

our company has a policy of 3 times in rolling twelve months and although this never
affects me normally as i never have time off i have been ill twice since last april so this would be my 3rd time .

this means a verbal warning but my contraced hours are monday to friday not saturdays ?

just looking for advice really cause my manager is a incompetent muppet and ive been having a few problems with him lately
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7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
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#1
injustice, but i can't help with the legal stuff
#2
did you record it in the accident book?
#3
jasonrat
did you record it in the accident book?


yes mate manager thought it was very funny
#4
If you was vomiting and had dizzy spells from a head injury it sounds like you have transient concussion. I would go to the hospital and get a record of it. If your boss hassles you about it you have a pretty good excuse!
#5
are u not supposed to go to the doctors if u get knocked out cold, i never do but i think ur supposed to
banned#6
injured in work and they expect you in?

they cant record it, u were INJURED
#7
tinkerbell28
Yes.


knocked myself out for 5 mins in my house once, was blood allover my kitchen floor, didnt go to the doctors haha
#8
tinkerbell28
Micoo, *slaps wrist*


:-D the blood wasnt from getting Ko'd it was from landing on my face and busting my nose open lol
#9
If you've got all this on report, and they know it was a serious incident, then they've no cause for complaint or to punish you for it, unless they're very incensitive.

If so, then i'd look into unfair dismissal or whatever the outcome may be.
#10
Your boss sounds a complete kn*b. You should ensure it is properly recorded and so long as you weren't larking around or breaching any operational procedures they are the ones who should be on the back foot. If the 'accident' is a result of them not giving you proper instruction to do something, not providing you with safety equipment, not supervising you doing things properly you may want them to feel they are the ones potentially in trouble not you. That sounds like a dodgy incident or near miss with a potential for someone a little unluckier to be killed. Accidents can happen, but most things can be properly managed so they actually don't.
#11
I'm very surprised your employers didn't call an ambulance, or at least take you to hospital. A fall from that height coupled with a head injury and a KO sounds very dangerous. I'd be taking you to the hospital even now, I think A&E is OK for up to 72 hours after the accident. Get looked at, especially if it still hurts/feels dizzy/sick whatever. Then (when all is well) I'd be looking at what caused the accident, getting my union rep involved and going for some serious compo. I'm assuming it's all in the accident book...
#12
well if they were to discipline you then they are shooting em them selfs in the foot as lost time accidents are reportable to H.S.E and are investigated
banned#13
micoo
:-D the blood wasnt from getting Ko'd it was from landing on my face and busting my nose open lol


this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDIMMxKASBs
#14
i put it in accident book

how it happened i work in builders merchant and we have the rockwool deal on so loads of pallets of rockwool all over the yard which are 18 rolls to a pallet

we have found the easiest way to hand load the luton van is to push the pallet over and slit the packaging open and load by hand as we cant use a forklift

i was at rear guiding it and the pallet caught my leg as it toppled and threw me up in the air not really looking to lay blame just wondered if overtime can be counted as absence
#15
Generally yes - if your off sick - ie stomach bug, cold etc etc

You have TOTALLY different circumstances as to being just off sick
#16
You work in a builders merchants but your management doesn't have a knowledge of H&S legislation?
#17
any chance your company cctv's the place? I would love to see a copy of the tape.

They should have sent you to hospital, and no you arent going to be in trouble for not going in (I assume you rang in the morning to say you wouldnt be in).
#18


loooool cracked my head off a doorframe while skipping through the house (dont ask why lol) and went straight down on my face :lol:
#19
mini0ne


we have found the easiest way to hand load the luton van is to push the pallet over and slit the packaging open and load by hand as we cant use a forklift



Method and risk assessments should make interesting reading :roll:
banned#20
As long as you rang to say you wouldn't be in I don't see a problem
#21
mini0ne
had a nasty fall at work on friday thrown in air about six feet and landed on my head on concrete also
twisting my leg and damaging my shoulder knocked out for a few seconds not sure how long but less than a minute.

i was due in on overtime on saturday but was in pain with my leg/shoulder and was vomiting and dizzy spells so didnt go

anybody know if you can receive a warning for not working overtime?

our company has a policy of 3 times in rolling twelve months and although this never
affects me normally as i never have time off i have been ill twice since last april so this would be my 3rd time .

this means a verbal warning but my contraced hours are monday to friday not saturdays ?

just looking for advice really cause my manager is a incompetent muppet and ive been having a few problems with him lately



Hi there, I have a bit of experience as far as employment, I work for the family business and look after around 10 workers.

Minor injury is a hospital job never mind someone flaked out.

If I found someone to be unconscious I would phone an ambulance straight away, so this bit baffles me, if I seen a stranger on the street unconscious I would phone an ambulance, no one in your work done this?

On a serious note though, you sure you just didn't go out on the drink Fri night like our guys do :-D? Come on tell the truth, then don't contact your boss on the Sat? Did you phone in on the Saturday morning to say you were sick? Or just turn your phone off? :w00t: Come on now lol, I've been down this road. :-D

As far as overtime, your boss will say that even though it was not your day in, you agreed to it, so unless you phoned in (Maybe you did) and give atleast some notice that you were sick from the injury then that should be fine, he saw you hurt so he shouldnt have a problem. But the phone off treatment, he gonna be thinking you were on the p** :p
#22
sparkyIreland


On a serious note though, you sure you just didn't go out on the drink Fri night like our guys do :-D? Come on tell the truth, then don't contact your boss on the Sat? Did you phone in on the Saturday morning to say you were sick? Or just turn your phone off? :w00t: Come on now lol, I've been down this road. :-D



Thats just a typical example of a manager not trusting their workforce :roll:
#23
transit
Thats just a typical example of a manager not trusting their workforce :roll:


I was joking mostly, hense the multiple smileys :roll:

I thought it was a fun way of giving advise, if his boss is as bad as he say's then these are the question's he should be prepared for, if he didnt phone then his boss will be thinking Fri night party time :p

The difference is though if one of my men was knocked out cold he would be brought to the hospital and not allowed to work untill he got the all clear.
#24
sparkyIreland
I was joking mostly, hense the multiple smileys :roll:

I thought it was a fun way of giving advise, if his boss is as bad as he say's then these are the question's he should be prepared for, if he didnt phone then his boss will be thinking Fri night party time :p

The difference is though if one of my men was knocked out cold he would be brought to the hospital and not allowed to work untill he got the all clear.


it happened friday 3pm i was finishing a 4 anyway so i just sat down for a bit i spoke to the assistant manager on friday evening and he said if your not here by opening time ill assume your still too ill .
also phoned him on saturday to confirm i was still ill

we do all the risk assesment rubish but to be honest all he wants is a signature doesnt actually enforce any sort of safety

we have a relative of his working casual for few weeks to clear the backlog of rockwool and if i hadnt demanded he go in the office and get a hi-vis vest before he came anyware near the yard he would have happily let him lurk around the yard dressed like a goth and deliver the goods to site as if he was the black magic chocolate man
#25
"risk assesment rubish"? I guess that is suggesting something.

mini0ne
it happened friday 3pm i was finishing a 4 anyway so i just sat down for a bit i spoke to the assistant manager on friday evening and he said if your not here by opening time ill assume your still too ill .
also phoned him on saturday to confirm i was still ill

we do all the risk assesment rubish but to be honest all he wants is a signature doesnt actually enforce any sort of safety

we have a relative of his working casual for few weeks to clear the backlog of rockwool and if i hadnt demanded he go in the office and get a hi-vis vest before he came anyware near the yard he would have happily let him lurk around the yard dressed like a goth and deliver the goods to site as if he was the black magic chocolate man
#26
Just Threaten Them With Health And Safty If It Was Due To Their Fault Im Sure They Will Lose The Warning If That Doesnt Help Then Seek The Advice Of The Union. They Once Helped Me With A Fall At Wrk Same Sort Of Accident And I Got My Warning Taken Away 1st I Threatend Them With Health And Safty Then Got The Inion Involved. Hope This Helps
#27
pghstochaj
"risk assesment rubish"? I guess that is suggesting something.


i say rubbish because the company dont actually do anything to make sure things are done right they just care about having the records signed and

i could give lists of contradictions to the company's commitment to health and safety policy
#28
mini0ne
i say rubbish because the company dont actually do anything to make sure things are done right they just care about having the records signed and

i could give lists of contradictions to the company's commitment to health and safety policy


Then take it up with the HSE, H&S is not a signature on a page and it nearly cost you your life.

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