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James... Avatar
6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
I started a bar job about 2 months ago which wasn't going to be a long term thing. I think I'm finishing in a few weeks but have been getting taxed when I shouldnt be.

I'm currently owed £104.20 but will have about 3 weeks pay left to recieve which will no doubt be taxed too.

I was given a P46 form (as I still have my other job so didn't have a P45) so do I just let my employer send this off?

I was told it will get me a new tax code but I wont need one for this job as I won't be there much longer. Just worried that if I give them the form tonight, then tell them I'm finishing, they wont put it all through quickly and it might end up taking a while to get the money.

Is there an easier option which I could do?

Cheers
james
James... Avatar
6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
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banned#1
go to your local tax office or ring the tax man
#2
That's where I got the P46 from, but have since decided I'm quitting so not sure if it's the best way now...
banned#3
why do you think you should not be paying tax ?
#4
I'm in college, it's only a part time thing so I'm only getting around £2000 per year
banned#5
the fact that your a student doesnt matter. you need to complete the p46 and return it to your employers asap, this will give them the correct tax code to opperate for your employment with them.
If you have income from another job as well, you will pay tax at basic rate on all your income from your second job. This is because each person only has one lot of tax allowances.
This is a numerical tax code..eg 572L means that you can earn £5725 in a year before you pay tax.
This is split up into monthly or weekly installments dependant on how you are paid.
The two employers will not know what each other are doing so only one of them will have your "allowance" or tax code.
#6
Are tax rebates automatic? i have only been working for a few months ( after leaving uni) and am under the tax threshold for the last tax year so is it automatic?..... or will i have to contact the tax man too for a rebate?
banned 1 Like #7
asayer;8394578
Are tax rebates automatic? i have only been working for a few months ( after leaving uni) and am under the tax threshold for the last tax year so is it automatic?..... or will i have to contact the tax man too for a rebate?

this tax year only started 12 days ago.
If you are with the same employer and it is your only or main job, and your earning below the tax threshold, they should not be deducting tax from you.
If you had any tax deducted last year and you should not have done it should be issued to you as a repayment direct from the tax office. wait till you received your P60 which your employer is oblidged to provide before the end of May.
Take that to your local tax office and they will tell you if you get a tax refund.
banned#8
D_C`s new line in tax advice ...:-D
#9
dog_cop
D_C`s new line in tax advice ...:-D


Yep seems so, i know this is the new tax year, runs from april 1st..... i shall await my P60 from my employer hopefully when i get back to work tomorrow and move on from there!
banned#10
asayer;8394682
Yep seems so, i know this is the new tax year, runs from april 1st..... i shall await my P60 from my employer hopefully when i get back to work tomorrow and move on from there!

yes.. and a gentle reminder that the financial(tax) year runs from the 6th April to the 5th April:w00t:
"What have the Romans ever done for us"
and dont forget to add my rep on your way out :thumbsup:
#11
dog_cop
yes.. and a gentle reminder that the financial(tax) year runs from the 6th April to the 5th April:w00t:
"What have the Romans ever done for us"
and dont forget to add my rep on your way out :thumbsup:


already done before you requested it.... now how do i take it back :whistling::p
banned#12
asayer;8394771
already done before you requested it.... now how do i take it back :whistling::p

you have to wait till the next financial year to get your rep back ...mwah hahahah :w00t:
banned#13
the tax helpdesk is now closed ... dogs need walkies
#14
I had the same problem as you when I was in my first few years of uni. All I did was collect all my payslips for the tax year, send it to my local tax office with a letter saying I've paid too much tax and can they sort it... Couple of weeks later they sent a cheque! Easy! I wouldn't bother with P46s etc!
banned 1 Like #15
baffledsalmon;8394795
I had the same problem as you when I was in my first few years of uni. All I did was collect all my payslips for the tax year, send it to my local tax office with a letter saying I've paid too much tax and can they sort it... Couple of weeks later they sent a cheque! Easy! I wouldn't bother with P46s etc!

sorry mrs monkfish but the tax police says this is BAD advice .. the sooner you complete the p46 for your employer the less likely you are to pay any tax because they will be able to apply the correct tax code quickly....
tax help desk is on tea break now
#16
dog_cop
sorry mrs monkfish but the tax police says this is BAD advice .. the sooner you complete the p46 for your employer the less likely you are to pay any tax because they will be able to apply the correct tax code quickly....
tax help desk is on tea break now


I'm not talking about the next tax year, I'm talking about claiming your rebate. I've done it for 3 years in a row so it obviously does work! Getting the right tax code for the next year is a different matter completely.
banned#17
baffledsalmon;8394836
I'm not talking about the next tax year, I'm talking about claiming your rebate. I've done it for 3 years in a row so it obviously does work! Getting the right tax code for the next year is a different matter completely.

When the employer gives you the P46 it is to determine which tax code they should opperate on that income source. If you do not complete it and give it back to them they will have to use tax code BR, which means that EVERYTHING you earn will be subject to deduction at the basic rate 20%. depending which box you tick on the P46 should give you some amount of your allowances (just checked and last year it was 647L) so this means that last year you could have a 52th/12th of that amount before you paid any tax, hence if you were a student and you were earning over that each week or month you would pay tax, but at the end of the year if you had IN TOTAL for the year earned less then you would receive the money back.
Tax is cummulative and worked out for the whole year to date each time you get paid. The only thing you have to bear in mind is that National Insurance IS NOT cummulative, so if you are over 16 and earn enough to pay national insurance, you WILL not get it refunded, not matter how much you earn in the year.:santa:
#18
Waaaaaah i have worked and paid tax for years whilst being at college and uni. Can i claim it back although i do not have any p60 or p45's as i have lost them.

Man i would be owed over a £1000 methinks :-(
#19
your first 3-4 grand(cnt remember exct mount) you earn is tax free no?
#20
casparwhite
your first 3-4 grand(cnt remember exct mount) you earn is tax free no?


£6400 ish i think?!

ps. good game with the gills yesterday, sorry for denting leeds promotion chances!
#21
asayer
£6400 ish i think?!

ps. good game with the gills yesterday, sorry for denting leeds promotion chances!


wow thats jumped up bit lol

nah fair play to you with a make shift defence then that other fella going off injured.....your home record is outstanding and youve got a lot of big lads there which is what we struggled with tbh

our first half was terrible we made some ground up but too little too late, havnt seen the penalty yet but the commentators were suprised he gave it

still second tho, bring on the dons
#22
This thread is taking the ****!!

Advice for collecting every week/month payslip and sending it off instead of filling out p46, even if you are talking about previous financial years with the intention of getting a rebate, why not just send your p60??? it is 1000% easier on your part and on the tax office part which in turn would get you your rebate quicker.

I currently pay 40% tax on my salary after my personal allowance, but i have been in the situation where i need to apply for a rebate (bloody ineptitude on someones part, naming no names) and it is VERY easy if you have your p60, or if you have had a few jobs since 06/04/09 your p45 will give you a head start.

Also just as a side note, if you are only earning £2000 in the job in question you would not pay tax anyway.

Also, as another side not (lol) it has not jumped up a bit, it has crept up a slight bit.

Out of interest, how do you know you are 'owed' £104.20?
banned#23
out of interest mr lob on .. which bit of the answers do you think are taking the wee wee ?
#24
dog_cop
out of interest mr lob on .. which bit of the answers do you think are taking the wee wee ?


your answers were sound, i just don't understand how someone can work out to the penny how much tax they have overpaid, yet not know how to claim said overpayment back.

Personal allowance being 3 or 4 grand

Tax year commencing April 1st

Sending a full years pay slips etc
#25
You can currently earn £6475 per year without paying any tax, same last year. If you are a student d not complete a P46 form ,instead P38 form then you will not have to pay any tax as long as you do not earn over this limit.
#26
This is only if your working during holidays by the way -

http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kbroker/hmrc/forms/viewform.jsp?formId=758
banned#27
FLANBAY
You can currently earn £6475 per year without paying any tax, same last year. If you are a student d not complete a P46 form ,instead P38 form then you will not have to pay any tax as long as you do not earn over this limit.


Hi FB,

I think my tax is wrong.

I started my job at the end of march and I think I might be paying too much tax.

I handed a P46 in when I started and then a P45 about a week later.

Shall I just sit back and wait for the tax office to straighten it out or should I get in touch with them?
#28
Thanks for all the replies, will dish out some rep after. Dropped the P46 in before so hopefully it will get sorted.

ivegotalobon
This thread is taking the ****!!

Advice for collecting every week/month payslip and sending it off instead of filling out p46, even if you are talking about previous financial years with the intention of getting a rebate, why not just send your p60??? it is 1000% easier on your part and on the tax office part which in turn would get you your rebate quicker.

I currently pay 40% tax on my salary after my personal allowance, but i have been in the situation where i need to apply for a rebate (bloody ineptitude on someones part, naming no names) and it is VERY easy if you have your p60, or if you have had a few jobs since 06/04/09 your p45 will give you a head start.

Also just as a side note, if you are only earning £2000 in the job in question you would not pay tax anyway.

[COLOR="Red"]I got put on an emergency tax code when I started hence it is getting taken out of my wages each week.[/COLOR]

Also, as another side not (lol) it has not jumped up a bit, it has crept up a slight bit.

Out of interest, how do you know you are 'owed' £104.20?

[COLOR="Red"]Thats just the total deductions on all my wage slips from the last 2 months.[/COLOR]
#29
DLM
Hi FB,

I think my tax is wrong.

I started my job at the end of march and I think I might be paying too much tax.

I handed a P46 in when I started and then a P45 about a week later.

Shall I just sit back and wait for the tax office to straighten it out or should I get in touch with them?


Hey DLM hows the new job at M @ S going ?
So is the tax code on your P45 correct ? If you handed that in after your P46 the payroll team should update it in your next payroll run
banned#30
FLANBAY
Hey DLM hows the new job at M @ S going ?
So is the tax code on your P45 correct ? If you handed that in after your P46 the payroll team should update it in your next payroll run


It is going well, thanks for asking :)

My tax code is currently BR and has been that since day 1 :-(

Hope you are well.
1 Like #31
DLM
It is going well, thanks for asking :)

My tax code is currently BR and has been that since day 1 :-(

Hope you are well.


Yes am well thanks, hope you are too.
Oh BR code means your not getting any tax free allowance, so pay 20% tax on all your earnings. I would think you should be on 647L so if payroll do not update your code on the next pay run, I would ring the tax office. You can search for your tax office number here -
http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kbroker/hmrc/locator/locator.jsp?type=1
#32
Op how much a year to you earn with the other job?
banned#33
FLANBAY
Yes am well thanks, hope you are too.
Oh BR code means your not getting any tax free allowance, so pay 20% tax on all your earnings. I would think you should be on 647L so if payroll do not update your code on the next pay run, I would ring the tax office. You can search for your tax office number here -
http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kbroker/hmrc/locator/locator.jsp?type=1


Thanks FB.

Repped :thumbsup:
#34
pinkleponkle
Op how much a year to you earn with the other job?


Only £28.98 each week, 6 hours at minimum wage. Averaging 20 hours a week so £96 ish a week and £5000ish a year. So even if I did that every week for a year (which I wont be) I would still be about £1500 under the tax free allowence.

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