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Help! Is this laptop any good? Dell Studio 17 (N0074910)

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6y, 6m agoPosted 6 years, 6 months ago
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Catalog Number: 202 N0074910
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Base Intel® Core i7-820QM Mobile Processor (1.73GHz, turbo up to 3.06GHz, 8MB L3 Cache)
Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit- English
Memory 6144MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [1x4096 + 1x2048]
Keyboard Internal UK/Irish Qwerty Keyboard
Video Card 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 560v
Hard Drive 1TB (7.200rpm) Serial ATA Dual Hard Drive (2x 500GB)
Optical Devices Fixed Internal DVD+/-RW Slot Load Drive including Software
Wireless Networking Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g)
Cables 1 Meter Power Cord (3 Wire) - UK
Shipping Documents English Documentation
Gedis Bundle Reference N0574910
Standard Warranty 1 year Collect & Return Hardware Support included with your PC
Services and Support 1 year of coverage included with your PC
PalmRest Silver chainlink palm rest with Black Chainlink cover only
Bluetooth No Bluetooth Upgrade
Order Information Studio 1747 Order - UK
Primary Battery Primary 9-cell 85 WHr Lithium Ion battery
Carrying Cases No Carrying Case
Dell System Media Kit Studio 1747 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
Camera 2.0 Mega pixel Integrated Web Camera (Touch Screen Only)
Colour Choice Black chainlink (Touch Screen Only)
Accidental Damage Support No Accidental Damage Support
Online Backup No DataSafe Online Backup 2GB (Direct)
Theft Protection Solution Computrace LoJack for Laptops, 1yr license - included with your PC
Call Dell Experts One free Dell Expert call to help with your PC queries within 60 days of purchase
Labels Wireless Label CI7
LCD 17.3 High Definition+ (1600x900) Multi Touch LED with TL
DataSafe (Services Owned) Datasafe Local 2.0 Basic
Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word)
Protect your new PC McAfee® SecurityCenter 15 Month Subscription
Power Supply 90W AC Adaptor
Operating System Recovery Options OS Windows® Recovery Media Not included
TOTAL Incl. VAT:£1,279.00
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6y, 6m agoPosted 6 years, 6 months ago
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#1
it's good but seems rather expensive

PS this code might come in handy
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/681904/dell-5-off-all-studio-inspiron-xps-
banned#2
Overpriced, low build quality and worth about 1/3 of that price in 4 months
banned#3
overkill unless you have a purpose for all that, save loads and buy a more mainstream machine and have a few hundred quid in your pocket, any laptop is only going to be good for 3-5 years
all that money and no extended warranty? priorities mate, if you need a machine for working on, you need some protection, and that 1tb drive, you want to buy an external 1tb to back it up onto.

at least its not a mac... :whistling:
#4
I bought a similar laptop from Dell:
CPU: "Clarksfield" Intel Core i7-720QM @ 1.6Ghz (clocks upto 2.8Ghz using Turbo) 6MB L3 cache
Chipset: Intel PM55
Memory: 2x 2GB DDR3 PC3-10700 (667Mhz) in Dual Channel
Hard Drive: Toshiba 500GB 5.2krpm
Optical Drive: Toshiba 8x DVD-RW Slow Loading
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 1024MB
Sound: IDT & ATI HD Audio + JBL 2.1 Built in
Screen: 17.3" HD+ (1600 x 900) TrueLife WLED
OS: Windows 7 Premium 64-Bit

Cost me £565 roughly...
Still has space for another 500gb hard drive is needed.
#5
its a monster but thats a monster price tag - do you really need the bleeding edge spec as you are paying a massive premium... the dell outlet have recently had i7 machines for about 600...
#6
whatsThePoint
Overpriced, low build quality and worth about 1/3 of that price in 4 months


Dell Studio boxes are not low build quality.

However nearly £1,300 for any laptop is way over the top.

You only need to pay this if money is no object (if you are Elton John or Tom Criuse for example)
banned#7
guilbert53
Dell Studio boxes are not low build quality.


yes they are, i'm using one to write this so i should know :roll:
#8
awoodhall2003
I bought a similar laptop from Dell:
CPU: "Clarksfield" Intel Core i7-720QM @ 1.6Ghz (clocks upto 2.8Ghz using Turbo) 6MB L3 cache
Chipset: Intel PM55
Memory: 2x 2GB DDR3 PC3-10700 (667Mhz) in Dual Channel
Hard Drive: Toshiba 500GB 5.2krpm
Optical Drive: Toshiba 8x DVD-RW Slow Loading
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 1024MB
Sound: IDT & ATI HD Audio + JBL 2.1 Built in
Screen: 17.3" HD+ (1600 x 900) TrueLife WLED
OS: Windows 7 Premium 64-Bit

Cost me £565 roughly...
Still has space for another 500gb hard drive is needed.


How so and where?
banned#9
whatsThePoint
yes they are, i'm using one to write this so i should know :roll:


+1 My hardrive failed after 2 years of having it. Poor machines
banned#10
ryman1000
+1 My hardrive failed after 2 years of having it. Poor machines


didnt realise dell made hard drives :whistling:

i'd blame seagate or samsung or WD
banned#11
jubbyme
didnt realise dell made hard drives :whistling:

i'd blame seagate or samsung or WD


so how come dell are the most unreliable according to this report then?
http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=242801,00.asp
other reports have similar results
#13
DragonChris
How so and where?


Dell Outlet.
banned#14


Mine is same spec but it doesn't have bluetooth, on a brighter note mine does have more memory and blueray and cost me £400 new so yours looks a bit overpriced
banned#15
whatsThePoint
so how come dell are the most unreliable according to this report then?
http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=242801,00.asp
other reports have similar results


because dell sell 10-1 the other makes, and packard bell from pcworld isnt on there (be glad time/tiny are gone!)

considering i work in corporate environments, the pc's are always dell, they use the same parts as most other machines and are from the same foxconn factory as apple,

same people moan that tesco or asda sell crap and waitrose dont, its all the same stuff

the main reason for the dell buying is the warranty choices, part upgrade choices, and business warranties,
HP also have a corporate sales site and easy warranty upgrades, acer dont, but people dont use them,

mobos are foxconn, drives are seagate, samsung or wd, cases are also foxconn stock with dell stuck on them, and use the same sony cells in the batteries and screens come from about 1 of 3 worldwide suppliers, i would understand it if they used some exclusive parts, but dell in reality is foxconn for the most part, dell, like acer jand apple ust basically phone taiwan and order a few thousand units.
#16
Microsoft 5000 bluetooth mouse included
laptop case
Windows 7 Home premium 64bit too

This model originally retailed at £499
#17
Inspection welcome on mine. Cash on collection
banned#18
jubbyme
because dell sell 10-1 the other makes, and packard bell from pcworld isnt on there (be glad time/tiny are gone!)

considering i work in corporate environments, the pc's are always dell, they use the same parts as most other machines and are from the same foxconn factory as apple,

same people moan that tesco or asda sell crap and waitrose dont, its all the same stuff

mobos are foxconn, drives are seagate, samsung or wd, cases are also foxconn stock with dell stuck on them, and use the same sony cells in the batteries and screens come from about 1 of 3 worldwide suppliers, i would understand it if they used some exclusive parts, but dell in reality is foxconn for the most part, dell, like acer jand apple ust basically phone taiwan and order a few thousand units.


its a percentage if they sold 100, 1000,10000.100000 or 1000000 the figures would still be the same, if you don't understand that we might as well stop now because you are strugging on the basics
Plus HP and Acer both outsell Dell worldwide now
banned#19
whatsThePoint
its a percentage if they sold 100, 1000,10000.100000 or 1000000 the figures would still be the same, if you don't understand that we might as well stop now because you are strugging on the basics
Plus HP and Acer both outsell Dell worldwide now


yes its a percentage, of a company that is well known so people moan more, in a minor magazine

where is packard bell or advent on that list? they really are rubbish, and have no support which makes then even worse

i can find a million people who moan about heinz beans but no-one moans about a brand no-one buys, People always used to say Fords were unreliable compared to the rest, people moan about whats popular. if they are using the same parts as other suppliers and made in the same factory how can it be so different? it isnt, companies buy them as they support the products, acer dont push for business sales, dont offer changes in spec or seem to bother selling business, extended or next day service. i'm not stuck to dell in anyway, nor was i gateway which was popular before.

business sure cant run on apple if you have to make appointments with an apple genius in store for every issue

in that link , how come dell got an 8.0 for reliability compared to 7.8 for HP when the percentage needing repair was 23 vs 19? it doesnt add up
banned#20
jubbyme
yes its a percentage, of a company that is well known so people moan more, in a minor magazine

where is packard bell or advent on that list? i can find a million people who moan about heinz beans but no-one moans about a brand no-one buys, People always used to say Fords were unreliable compared to the rest, people moan about whats popular. if they are using the same parts as other suppliers and made in the same factory how can it be so different?


the percentage needing repair is nothing to do with how people rated their laptop after
banned#21
jubbyme


in that link , how come dell got an 8.0 for reliability compared to 7.8 for HP when the percentage needing repair was 23 vs 19? it doesnt add up


that is how people score their laptop out of 10
banned#22
whatsThePoint
the percentage needing repair is nothing to do with how people rated their laptop after


so people rated their laptops highly even though they always break down? doesnt seem right to me

And lets not forget, dells and such can be bought cheap (often are the cheapest) and often are for kids, teenagers and people who abuse them more that people who can afford an apple and look after it

Nissans tend to be driven more carefully by older people and properly serviced more likely than a ford fiesta driven by a teenager and never serviced, which one will be more reliable then?
banned#23
jubbyme
so people rated their laptops highly even though they always break down? doesnt seem right to me

And lets not forget, dells and such can be bought cheap (often are the cheapest) and often are for kids, teenagers and people who abuse them more that people who can afford an apple and look after it

Nissans tend to be driven more carefully by older people and properly serviced more likely than a ford fiesta driven by a teenager and never serviced, which one will be more reliable then?


Acer's are usually cheaper, aren't they :?
banned#24
whatsThePoint
Acer's are usually cheaper, aren't they :?


sometimes, but seem harder to find, the dell website is simple, Acer sell via vendors so take a bit of looking

family did buy an acer a while back as they wanted pretty much the cheapest laptop for nephew (comet in that case), but that came back and bit them, as they broke the power brick, and acer dont sell direct, and bought 3 in the end from suppliers, as the first 2 the machine said something about incorrect power supply and wouldnt boot (even though they swore genuine replacement or exact duplicate) But Dell do sell bits direct, so a plus from me there ( i bought a spare power brick to leave at work, I didnt break mine!)

I honestly think it comes down more to abuse, like laptop hard drives fail more due to all that moving and banging around, cheap laptops are given to kids or such, you dont spend 1000 on an Apple for the kids to mess up

I'm sure you'd agree more morons have a dell than an apple, but you cant blame dell in that case
banned#25
jubbyme
sometimes, but seem harder to find, the dell website is simple, Acer sell via vendors so take a bit of looking

family did buy an acer a while back as they wanted pretty much the cheapest laptop for nephew (comet in that case), but that came back and bit them, as they broke the power brick, and acer dont sell direct, and bought 3 in the end from suppliers, as the first 2 the machine said something about incorrect power supply and wouldnt boot (even though they swore genuine replacement or exact duplicate) But Dell do sell bits direct, so a plus from me there ( i bought a spare power brick to leave at work, I didnt break mine!)

I honestly think it comes down more to abuse, like laptop hard drives fail more due to all that moving and banging around, cheap laptops are given to kids or such, you dont spend 1000 on an Apple for the kids to mess up


tbh i would of thought acers would be rated worst having had 2 fail on me but i guess 2 doesn't go far compaired to rating 1000's of laptop

Ok i can see your side of things with cheaper laptops could be broken by kids etc, but Dell also come out worst on the business list as well and they are all on a level playing ground there
banned 1 Like #26
whatsThePoint
tbh i would of thought acers would be rated worst having had 2 fail on me but i guess 2 doesn't go far compaired to rating 1000's of laptop

Ok i can see your side of things with cheaper laptops could be broken by kids etc, but Dell also come out worst on the business list as well and they are all on a level playing ground there


From a business perspective, its hard to buy anything other than dell, the choice of warranty for business, ability to change certain specs, ability to do that for 100 units in a second, where PC world would have a stroke if you even asked

i would say it must be 100 percent of large business who buy dell, only the smaller end buy piecemeal. But as i said, due to all the component sharing Dell is just a badge, I really cant understand the reliability when its the same parts made in the same factory. They are all chasing cheaper parts and have little to do with any real design of said parts, just like a few years ago with all the battery explosions, came down to sony cells, but everyone was using them, apple, dell etc

Any business if it kept getting bitten by bad supplies would change, there are other suppliers, but Dell is like gateway 10 years ago
I deal with server maintenance now, but used to do pc support in large business, and of course dell repairs was all the time as they were all dell!, 99 percent of all work was windows mess ups not hardware

but i did learn, now i do servers, be it seagate (or maxtor that was), WD or samsung, all hard drives are no more or less reliable than any other, so i dont play favourites there

I think it comes down to product support. if you have a Advent laptop, even finding the drivers on the site is a pain or almost impossible, dell is as easy as the product code, dell also supply windows and a drivers disc with all machines, I hate the acer way of making you burn a cd on the first day(which no-one does and one day it bites you)

its easy for us who only buy the odd pc every couple of years or so, and if having a bad experience wont buy the same out of more superstition than reality.

Just like my Ford Fiesta is Mazda 6 made under license (and i didnt like mazda's! but liked fords!)
banned#27
jubbyme
From a business perspective, its hard to buy anything other than dell, the choice of warranty for business, ability to change certain specs, ability to do that for 100 units in a second, where PC world would have a stroke if you even asked

i would say it must be 100 percent of large business who buy dell, only the smaller end buy piecemeal. But as i said, due to all the component sharing Dell is just a badge, I really cant understand the reliability when its the same parts made in the same factory. They are all chasing cheaper parts and have little to do with any real design of said parts, just like a few years ago with all the battery explosions, came down to sony cells, but everyone was using them, apple, dell etc

Any business if it kept getting bitten by bad supplies would change, there are other suppliers, but Dell is like gateway 10 years ago
I deal with server maintenance now, but used to do pc support in large business, and of course dell repairs was all the time as they were all dell!,

but i did learn, now i do servers, be it seagate (or maxtor that was), WD or samsung, all hard drives are no more or less reliable than any other, so i dont play favourites there

I think it comes down to product support. if you have a Advent laptop, even finding the drivers on the site is a pain or almost impossible, dell is as easy as the product code, dell also supply windows and a drivers disc with all machines, I hate the acer way of making you burn a cd on the first day(which no-one does and one day it bites you)

its easy for us who only buy the odd pc every couple of years or so, and if having a bad experience wont buy the same out of more superstition than reality.

Just like my Ford Fiesta is Mazda 6 made under license (and i didnt like mazda's! but liked fords!)


Can't see HP out selling dells overall with only home users so they must be selling as many business machines as dell if not more making your 100% dell way off the mark
Maybe dells are just cutting more corners in the parts they have installed in their machines
i know the lid of this dell flexes far more that the acer (the lid was solid) i had before or the Siemens before that
banned#28
whatsThePoint
Can't see HP out selling dells overall with only home users so they must be selling as many business machines as dell if not more making your 100% dell way off the mark
Maybe dells are just cutting more corners in the parts they have installed in their machines
i know the lid of this dell flexes far more that the acer (the lid was solid) i had before or the Siemens before that


my old dell 1501 is solid as a rock! no bendy lid, but models change some more solid than others, I would say the year old acer in the family is far more bendy.

Business that are 100 percent dell as i have found are: John lewis and Asda corporate and Norwich Union (been a couple of years now, but certainly was). I really dont know how the HP business side competes, I have not seen it! ( except in printers, then of couse HP everywhere),

dell cant really cut corners, they are the same parts! right off the foxconn lists, there isnt that many that you can save a penny vs another similar motherboard with them, (your only choise is what name to print, even that already costs extra!

dell just buy, they dont really control anything, memory is often either hyundai or crucial, drives from whomever, cases foxconns standard list, PSU's same old unnamed flavour of the week tat as anyone else

I too have dealt direct with foxconn when pricing up several thousand machines, and saw what little you can do, they develop their own mobo's and you cant change them( i wanted all the usb ports not fitted for a job, (banking, and the whole usb security issue) and thought it would save a few pennies! they wouldnt even do that!) of course it was disabled in windows in the end, but preferred the hardware gone

My dell 1501 is actually exactly the same as a certain samsung model, both supplied by foxconn, same case, drives (samsung) motherboard (foxconn), the only difference is the PSU, same voltages but the dell one is shaped and branded, its probably like my fiesta/mazda comparison, you see fords everywhere here, and mazdas more abroad, but are the exact same car



cheers for the discussion WTP
#29
If you're going for a high spec Dell machine I think it's worth the patience to try and get it at the outlet as the expensive options on the main site can be had far cheaper on the outlet. My last high spec laptop was a Studio XPS 16, on the main site it cost £2,200+ with the processor upgrade alone costing £650 + VAT but I bagged the same spec machine off the outlet for just under £1,300. Although it took me a few weeks of waiting for it to come up it was actually still quicker than the main site where there were delays on some of the parts.

John
banned#30
Johnmcl7
If you're going for a high spec Dell machine I think it's worth the patience to try and get it at the outlet as the expensive options on the main site can be had far cheaper on the outlet. My last high spec laptop was a Studio XPS 16, on the main site it cost £2,200+ with the processor upgrade alone costing £650 + VAT but I bagged the same spec machine off the outlet for just under £1,300. Although it took me a few weeks of waiting for it to come up it was actually still quicker than the main site where there were delays on some of the parts.

John


didnt think of it as a way to bypass the part delay issue, but have used them for 2 machines now to save money, and saved 50 quid both times (low end personal machines) and both were perfect new machines sold as recons


Back too HP, when I go to HP's site, there is no business options that i can see, i cant change the machine spec, i cant seem to find business warranty/support or any extended options, Dell doesnt let you not see them! sure maybe of you phone, but where is the transparancy?
1 Like #31
jubbyme
didnt think of it as a way to bypass the part delay issue, but have used them for 2 machines now to save money, and saved 50 quid both times (low end personal machines) and both were perfect new machines sold as recons

It does depend on the machine as Dell are reasonably prompt but there have been a couple of times now I've been able to order a machine off the outlet that would be badly delayed through the main site. I think it must be over ten machines I've bought from the outlet now, as you say the machines come in brand new condition. It's just really a matter of patience as it's sometimes taken me a few weeks to get the machine I want but given the potential savings it's frequently worth it.


Back too HP, when I go to HP's site, there is no business options that i can see, i cant change the machine spec, i cant seem to find business warranty/support or any extended options, Dell doesnt let you not see them! sure maybe of you phone, but where is the transparancy?


From what I've seen of HP (which may be incorrect) they don't seem to have much of a presence in the UK for business laptop/desktop machines, any time I've seen an interesting HP review the model never seems to be available here. As you say their site is fairly hopeless in that area which is a bit strange given their extensive server coverage and support. Lenovo seem to be pushing hard at the business market these days although I have to say given the Thinkpad reputation I've been disappointed with their machines, their system and their support.

John

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