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Help! Missing DS console

Misty_mew Avatar
7y, 1w agoPosted 7 years, 1 week ago
Hi,

Has anyone got any advice on what I can do about a child taking my daughter's DS?

A child removed it from a playscheme and despite repeated requests for it to be handed in she kept it for over a month. I had it back this week - but it's broken.

DD is gutted that she hasn't got a DS and keeps asking if Father Christmas can afford to buy her another one.

Can the police do anything?? The kid is only 8.

Any thoughts ?
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7y, 1w agoPosted 7 years, 1 week ago
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#1
her parents will be liable contact the kids parents and explain what happened any *decent parents* would help to cost of repair or new one x
#2
speak to the kids parents, they musta had a clue about its condition!
#3
The playscheme refuse to tell me who the parents are. Confidentiality rules. I have asked the manager to pass on my comments.

The little girl has still got one of the games and the stylus and I've asked for these to be returned.
#4
Did the child take it with your consent ? Why did she have the DS at playscheme with her ? Was it known who it belonged to ? The parents of the other child will be responsible for the item if it was damaged whilst in their care - parents can be held responsible for their children's actions if it involves property belonging to another, however whether you can prove it was damaged whilst in their care is the big question. Did they return it direct to you or via the playscheme ? Who else had access to the item ? Did you speak directly to the parents or only via the playscheme staff ?

Sorry to bring up so many questions but they are all relevant and will be asked if you involve the police. However I definitely think you would be well advised to speak to the police - but have a look at your house insurance policy as you may have legal cover which would pay for a solicitor to act on your behalf.

Good luck :-)
#5
If the playscheme wont tell you who the parents are A) the police will soon find out or B) you could just wait outside till she is collected then have a word then :-)
#6
If the playscheme do not act as intermediary (without giving you the name) then shame them & expose them via the local press, speak to whoever is in charge on paperwork as a governor for the scheme.
ask to see their public liability insurance....
(make them sweat if need be)
good hunting!
#7
The police wont do anything - but if you tell the play scheme you wish to inform them then it may speed things along with the other parents.
#8
.....let's just say that if this child had broken a DS in a shop then the shop is entitled (under law) to recover the cost of the item from the parents. Similarly, you hv the right the recover the cost of repair/replacement of the item. However, as a parent I know in reality that this can be difficult especially when dealing with other parents/children who may attend the same school/play-scheme. This is a case I'm afraid of trying to come to amicable solution with the child's parents & trying to get them to replace the item.
#9
vraptorchick
Did the child take it with your consent ? Why did she have the DS at playscheme with her ? Was it known who it belonged to ? The parents of the other child will be responsible for the item if it was damaged whilst in their care - parents can be held responsible for their children's actions if it involves property belonging to another, however whether you can prove it was damaged whilst in their care is the big question. Did they return it direct to you or via the playscheme ? Who else had access to the item ? Did you speak directly to the parents or only via the playscheme staff ?

Sorry to bring up so many questions but they are all relevant and will be asked if you involve the police. However I definitely think you would be well advised to speak to the police - but have a look at your house insurance policy as you may have legal cover which would pay for a solicitor to act on your behalf.

Good luck :-)


The child did not have permission to take it. The playsheme made announcements all week (October holidays playscheme) so it was pretty obvious who it belonged to. All the kids take their DS consoles into Playscheme to play against each other wireless. The mum handed it in to the Playscheme so I don't know 100% who it is ( although I have got a good guess)

I insisted that the playscheme rang the police but they didn't do it until the last day on the holidays, so all the kids were back in school by the time the police went up there. The officer who is dealing with this is on leave until Wednesday, so i can't get any advice there.
#10
Common sense answer : Never allow your child to take anything you can't afford to lose to school or any form of childcare arrangement.

However i realise your lil one must be really upset that the DS has been eventually returned ( broken ). I don't see what you're going to be able to do about this in real terms because you can't prove that it wasn't broken when the other child took it and the other child had it for a long amount of time without you taking the matter any further anyway.

Honestly, the only thing I think you're going to get out of this really is an opportunity to teach your child the importance of being responsible for her own possessions.

Sorry I can't be of more help xx
#11
I can't really see what the Police can do
It wasn't stolen - the parents handed it back in (when they knew the kid had it) that's no doubt what they will say - and the kid is too young.
The damage will be a tough one for you to prove...
so you would be left with small claims court through the county court...

If the parents won't agree to pay for a new one after the police have spoken to them perhaps the threat of a County Court summons may persuade them.

Depends how far you are willing to go.
#12
ClarityofMind
Common sense answer : Never allow your child to take anything you can't afford to lose to school or any form of childcare arrangement.

However i realise your lil one must be really upset that the DS has been eventually returned ( broken ). I don't see what you're going to be able to do about this in real terms because you can't prove that it wasn't broken when the other child took it and the other child had it for a long amount of time without you taking the matter any further anyway.

Honestly, the only thing I think you're going to get out of this really is an opportunity to teach your child the importance of being responsible for her own possessions.

Sorry I can't be of more help xx


I know, it's easy in hindsight to say I shouldn't have allowed her to take it with her, but when the other kids are playing against each other I didn't have to heart to make her the odd one out.

The only good thing to come out of this is that all DS consoles are now banned from the playscheme in future.

This was taken on the Monday (first day of the playscheme) and was removed from her bag. DD is so innocent and trusting she didn't think that anyone would take something from inside her bag.

I tried all week to get this reported properly. he playscheme were so slow in gettin the police involved. The police were told that things like this happen all the time and have just been misplaced at home!! - so they didn't think it was a problem. I corrected this info asap. I couldn't even get a 'crime number' to make an insurance claim because they were told that it would turn up eventually.
I had put it down as 'gone forever' and was looking for a replacement when out of the blue it was handed in last week. So now they do at least know who took it. What they can actully do about it , I just don't know.
#13
My daughter has 'Golden Time' on Thursdays at school,I wouldn't let her take her pink DS Lite,wouldn't let them take anything into school that we be bothered about being broken or lost.
#14
Misty_mew
I know, it's easy in hindsight to say I shouldn't have allowed her to take it with her, but when the other kids are playing against each other I didn't have to heart to make her the odd one out.

The only good thing to come out of this is that all DS consoles are now banned from the playscheme in future.

This was taken on the Monday (first day of the playscheme) and was removed from her bag. DD is so innocent and trusting she didn't think that anyone would take something from inside her bag.

I tried all week to get this reported properly. he playscheme were so slow in gettin the police involved. The police were told that things like this happen all the time and have just been misplaced at home!! - so they didn't think it was a problem. I corrected this info asap. I couldn't even get a 'crime number' to make an insurance claim because they were told that it would turn up eventually.
I had put it down as 'gone forever' and was looking for a replacement when out of the blue it was handed in last week. So now they do at least know who took it. What they can actully do about it , I just don't know.


I totally understand you didn't want her to feel excluded bless her that woulda been awful, it's so hard being a Mum sometimes isn't it.

It's great that DS consoles have now been banned from the playscheme. Hopefully the playscheme is providing more exciting and rewarding activities now than DS games!

Sounds as if the playscheme didn't really want to take responsibility for this loss in relation to the police, I can see why really as they must have children saying they've "lost" such and such, all the time, but as a Mum knowing she definitely had it there it must be so frustrating.

I honestly think it's a good thing she now knows her possessions have to be taken greater care of. Reminds me of my own lil one really xxx
#15
Thanks for your support. I'll keep you posted on developments - if there are any :-(
#16
I would refuse to accept the condition of the DS & invoice th playscheme for a replacement to soften them up a bit, seems from what you've said they blocked any action till kids had finished at their (presumably council funded scheme) ..in which case they were instrumental in the loss & perhaps further damage of said DS, & still missing game) ..therefore liable.

Ask for their insurance handlers details within a set time.
& complain to the property owners who let the scheme on their premises.
#17
vraptorchick
If the playscheme wont tell you who the parents are A) the police will soon find out or B) you could just wait outside till she is collected then have a word then :-)


The police will find out........having a laugh, the police involved in this not on your nelly, no wonder we dont see police on the beat anymore with people like you advising people on matters like this involving very young children and a DS console......get a life and let the people who really need the police have access to them in stead of being told on the phone...sorry no police to deal with your house being burgled as they are delaing with a broken DS between tow children.....oh makes me so mad.....must calm down...calm...calm!!!!:x:x
#18
MR GUS
I would refuse to accept the condition of the DS & invoice th playscheme for a replacement to soften them up a bit, seems from what you've said they blocked any action till kids had finished at their (presumably council funded scheme) ..in which case they were instrumental in the loss & perhaps further damage of said DS, & still missing game) ..therefore liable.

Ask for their insurance handlers details within a set time.
& complain to the property owners who let the scheme on their premises.



Totally agree with this advice. They know who was responsible for the theft of the DS and game. I'd be speaking to the manager of the playscheme and telling them I wanted their total co-operation with the police in dealing with the theft (which obviously means giving the parents details to them) and due to their delay and reluctance in sorting the matter straight away, they are being held responsible for the cost of a replacement DS and game.
#19
rob585
The police will find out........having a laugh, the police involved in this not on your nelly, no wonder we dont see police on the beat anymore with people like you advising people on matters like this involving very young children and a DS console......get a life and let the people who really need the police have access to them in stead of being told on the phone...sorry no police to deal with your house being burgled as they are delaing with a broken DS between tow children.....oh makes me so mad.....must calm down...calm...calm!!!!:x:x


To be able to make an insurance claim I needed a crime reference from the police. I don't think that was me wasting police time.

The only thing the police have spent any time on is 3 maybe 4 phone calls. Hardly wasting their valuable resource.
#20
rob585
The police will find out........having a laugh, the police involved in this not on your nelly, no wonder we dont see police on the beat anymore with people like you advising people on matters like this involving very young children and a DS console......get a life and let the people who really need the police have access to them in stead of being told on the phone...sorry no police to deal with your house being burgled as they are delaing with a broken DS between tow children.....oh makes me so mad.....must calm down...calm...calm!!!!:x:x


So you think it's ok for the child who deliberately took this item to know that no matter what they do the Police will not be called .... and we wonder why this country is in such a mess :roll:

Op you are doing the right thing and I would def hold the playscheme responsible in writing in order to give them a push into doing more for you.

Best of luck with all this and I hope your daughter isnt too upset to go back to playscheme next time. My son works on our local council scheme and there is no way the kids are allowed to bring in any personal items of any value in order to avoid problems like this - looks like your scheme have learnt this the hard way. :thumbsup:
#21
Misty_mew
To be able to make an insurance claim I needed a crime reference from the police. I don't think that was me wasting police time.

The only thing the police have spent any time on is 3 maybe 4 phone calls. Hardly wasting their valuable resource.


But no crime has been comitted so all you will get is a lost property number......they are 8 year olds not criminals why do we in the uk want to make children who do silly things into criminals...parental responsibility is the last comment ill make on this.....:whistling:
#22
rob585
But no crime has been comitted so all you will get is a lost property number......they are 8 year olds not criminals why do we in the uk want to make children who do silly things into criminals...parental responsibility is the last comment ill make on this.....:whistling:



A crime has been commited as an item was taken without permission. This incident was regarded as a crime as it was missing for longer than 21 days.

'Silly' or just plain devious. She has taken this item and successfully hidden it from her parents for over a month.

It's knowing the difference between right and wrong, not making the child into a criminal.

But thanks for your 'last comment on this'
#23
Misty_mew
A crime has been commited as an item was taken without permission. This incident was regarded as a crime as it was missing for longer than 21 days.

'Silly' or just plain devious. She has taken this item and successfully hidden it from her parents for over a month.

It's knowing the difference between right and wrong, not making the child into a criminal.

But thanks for your 'last comment on this'


+ 1 :thumbsup:
#24
vraptorchick
+ 1 :thumbsup:


Diolch!
#25
What's the fault with the DS ? :?

It may be easily repaired .......i've fixed LOADS of them ! :)
#26
Tell the Police, it will be cause for a good laugh in the canteen if nothing else.
#27
rob585
But no crime has been comitted so all you will get is a lost property number......they are 8 year olds not criminals why do we in the uk want to make children who do silly things into criminals...parental responsibility is the last comment ill make on this.....:whistling:


So I'm going to borrow your car (don't worry I'll bring it back for xmas!) oh and I'll have thrashed it with an inch of its life so will be broken, and I'll be keeping the stereo!:thumbsup:

Starting to change your mind now!

Well theft was committed and criminal damage. If I were the op I would put in writing to the play center that you will give them 14 days to rectify the situation or you will go to the police over the theft of the DS and the damage and the outstanding theft of the game. They have also shot themselves in the foot on the DS by now banning them as they are saying that previously there use was ok. As the center takes responsibility of the child and their belongings whilst there it is is for them to sort it out.
#28
Mecoconuts
What's the fault with the DS ? :?

It may be easily repaired .......i've fixed LOADS of them ! :)


If It could be fixed I'd take the hit for the missing games and the stylus. (still be pi**ed off with it being hidden in the first place)

The front panel is still missing. (where you load GBA games) When you put a game in the back it doesn't recognise a game and it makes a strange clicking noise when you put a game in the back.

Any advice greatfully received
#29
Misty_mew
If It could be fixed I'd take the hit for the missing games and the stylus. (still be pi**ed off with it being hidden in the first place)

The front panel is still missing. (where you load GBA games) When you put a game in the back it doesn't recognise a game and it makes a strange clicking noise when you put a game in the back.

Any advice greatfully received


The front panel is no big deal and can be replaced.

The rear game cart slot sounds like it may be damaged internally though (going by ur description) ....shine a torch inside the slot and see if any of the pins are damaged.

If they are it's a pain in the butt to fix...
#30
Mecoconuts
The front panel is no big deal and can be replaced.

The rear game cart slot sounds like it may be damaged internally though (going by ur description) ....shine a torch inside the slot and see if any of the pins are damaged.

If they are it's a pain in the butt to fix...


Yep. 2 pins bent
#31
I know it's of no help regarding the dispute, but as to whether the DS can be fixed or not, have you looked at these:
http://www.nintendoservicecentre.co.uk/
I've used them a couple of times (albeit with regards to re-allignment of the touchscreen) and can't complain with their service etc
#32
squatswithducks
I know it's of no help regarding the dispute, but as to whether the DS can be fixed or not, have you looked at these:
http://www.nintendoservicecentre.co.uk/
I've used them a couple of times (albeit with regards to re-allignment of the touchscreen) and can't complain with their service etc


Thanks, I'll take a look.
#33
To be honest, I blame the parents of the child that took it!! Heaven forbid my child ever took anything that wasn't theirs but I would march them up to the child and parent to hand it back, apologise and then obviously apologise myself and pay for any repairs/replacement....if I wasn't in a position to afford the repairs I would apologise and explain my situation.

I do agree with those saying it's a waste of police time though, sorry!
#34
WooHoo,

Creche have just rung, the child's mother has handed in the front panel of the console and has offered to pay for any damages.

Didn't think that was going to happen! My faith in fellow humans - fully restored :-D

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