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help needed from pc techies bought my new board and chip

linw Avatar
7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
can anyone please please help as it now wont let me install xp onto the hard drive it says ntldr missing tried windows repair and another installation disc undid the usbs and the card reader
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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
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#1
Does XP 'see' the hard drive or is it a SATA one in which case you might need additional drivers
#2
its an ide hardrive sata dvd rw it reads the cd then says ntdr missing
#3
Look in the BIOS (press ESC or Delete, or whatever it tells you as soon as the machine boots) see if there is an option to behave like an IDE drive. If not you need to press F6 when installing XP and load the SATA drivers. Read the motherboard manual. Does the bios actually see the hard drive, try re-seating the cables.
#4
Eh? The hard drive is ide but the dvd is sata?
#5
Babbabooey
Eh? The hard drive is ide but the dvd is sata?


havent bought a sata harddrive yet
#6
linw
havent bought a sata harddrive yet


I meant I thought it was strange that a PC has both IDE and sata connectors inside. I thought you get one or the other, not both.
#7
also tried to format the hard drive and still get this error
#8
HDD is not set-up or formatted correctly, check BIOS and format of HDD, also could be a corrupt boot sector
#9
how do i ascertain which it is or do i just keep going through them
#10
i have formatted hd and checked bios and still the same so how do i do the boot sector please
#11
In the BIOS make sure that CDROM's boot before HDD in the boot device list.
#12
mittu1
In the BIOS make sure that CDROM's boot before HDD in the boot device list.

have checked and cdrom is first boot
banned#13
I had this a while ago and turned out HDD was faulty
#14
In that case, what happens when you insert the XP CD and get to the point where it asks you to format the HD,? Does it get that far?
#15
csiman
I had this a while ago and turned out HDD was faulty


so i would have to buy another hd or can this be fixed as the hd is recognized
#16
csiman can sell you a copy of XP HOME if your XP CD is faulty. lol
#17
* Insert the Windows CD and start the computer.
* When the Welcome to Setup screen appears, press R.
* Type a number corresponding to the Windows installation you wish to repair (usually 1) and press Enter.
* When prompted, type the administrator password and press Enter.
* From the command prompt, copy NTLDR and NTDETECT.COM from the i386 folder of the CD to the root folder of the hard drive. In the example commands given below, C: is the hard drive and D: is the CD-ROM drive. You will need to change the drive letters if appropriate:
COPY D:\I386\NTLDR C:\
COPY D:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\
* Remove the Windows XP CD from the drive and restart the computer.

may work if everything is set up correctly, worth checking the slave/master jumpers on the HDD and cdrom
#18
are you sure the hd is formatted to NTFS ??? also does the disc drive work & does the cd work ? is it readable on another pc ?

edit : so its the hd ............ plug it into another pc if possible & see if windows recognises it
#19
mittu1
In that case, what happens when you insert the XP CD and get to the point where it asks you to format the HD,? Does it get that far?


yes it does get a quick format and i am presently running full format to see what happens next
#20
faevilangel
are you sure the hd is formatted to NTFS ??? also does the disc drive work & does the cd work ? is it readable on another pc ?


tried cd in other drives it works tried the cd drive in another pc it works .
#21
statto1978
* Insert the Windows CD and start the computer.
* When the Welcome to Setup screen appears, press R.
* Type a number corresponding to the Windows installation you wish to repair (usually 1) and press Enter.
* When prompted, type the administrator password and press Enter.
* From the command prompt, copy NTLDR and NTDETECT.COM from the i386 folder of the CD to the root folder of the hard drive. In the example commands given below, C: is the hard drive and D: is the CD-ROM drive. You will need to change the drive letters if appropriate:
COPY D:\I386\NTLDR C:\
COPY D:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\
* Remove the Windows XP CD from the drive and restart the computer.

may work if everything is set up correctly, worth checking the slave/master jumpers on the HDD and cdrom


will try this next after format finishes but last time the repair section didnt do anything but will try again in the order of above as you have written
#22
linw
tried cd in other drives it works tried the cd drive in another pc it works .


ye it does sound like the hd is corrupted ......... have you got a spare pc you can connect to ???

also do you only have one Hd..... if you have more than one, is it set to master & other set to slave ?

if its a single, is it connected properly, try using a different ide cable (if you got a spare)
#23
faevilangel
ye it does sound like the hd is corrupted ......... have you got a spare pc you can connect to ???

also do you only have one Hd..... if you have more than one, is it set to master & other set to slave ?

if its a single, is it connected properly, try using a different ide cable (if you got a spare)


have changed the cables and the jumpers still the same
#24
when it boots from cd press any key Once only. When it asks again do not press anything.

Make sure you have the boot order set correctly in bios, It makes no difference if your are choosing fat32 or ntfs.

you need to have used Fdisk to setup harddrive first or one of the quick seagate/maxtor/ Ontrack tools to partition drive etc
#25
linw
have changed the cables and the jumpers still the same


gotta be a faulty drive or not formatted properly .......... if the post wasn't so slow lately i would send you one out, to get to you tomorrow ........ but not possible ........

do you have a spare pc (like the one your on??) to be able to connect it up and format it ?
#26
just formatted and now it says net ui
#27
faevilangel
gotta be a faulty drive or not formatted properly .......... if the post wasn't so slow lately i would send you one out, to get to you tomorrow ........ but not possible ........

do you have a spare pc (like the one your on??) to be able to connect it up and format it ?


no spare pc as i have borrowed the laptop that i am now on
#28
linw
no spare pc as i have borrowed the laptop that i am now on


dang ....... hmmmmm without testing the hd on another pc then you probably won't find out whats wrong :lol:

but we can hazard a guess ...... you got a local pc shop nearby ? they would test the drive for you if you ask nice enough .......
#29
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm is what "ntldr is missing" could mean

we have worked out its not the cable so its not #9 or #8 ,,,,,,,,,, is this a first time install on the HD ?
#30
faevilangel
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm is what "ntldr is missing" could mean

we have worked out its not the cable so its not #9 or #8 ,,,,,,,,,, is this a first time install on the HD ?
yes there wasnt windows on the drive before then .have tried xp home and xp 64 bit on installation both say the same
#31
did you have Linux or a derivative installed prior to this?
banned#32
Loose or Faulty IDE/EIDE hard disk drive cable
This issue has been known to be caused by a loose or fault IDE/EIDE cable. If the above recommendation does not resolve your issue and your computer hard disk drive is using an IDE or EIDE interface. Verify the computer hard disk drive cable is firmly connected by disconnected and reconnecting the cable.
If the issue continues it is also a possibility that the computer has a faulty cable, try replacing the hard disk drive cable with another cable and/or a new cable.
#33
WasStoNed
did you have Linux or a derivative installed prior to this?

no other operating system as far as i know
#34
linw
no other operating system as far as i know
not sure if it was in a media player previously would this make a difference as i have just noticed when i format it doesnt give me the full harddrive size
#35
did you delete all partitions before formatting it?
#36
Babbabooey
did you delete all partitions before formatting it?


i thought full format removed all partitions but still no full capacity as it is 250 gig but only getting 230
#37
also says wrong i o
#38
linw
i thought full format removed all partitions but still no full capacity as it is 250 gig but only getting 230


No, there will be an option to do it manually.
Once you F8 to accept the terms, it will list the partitions found... if there is more than one line of text there then you have more than 1 partition. Press D to delete the partitions, and then L to confirm, until they are ALL gone. Then create one big partition.
#39
Babbabooey
No, there will be an option to do it manually.
Once you F8 to accept the terms, it will list the partitions found... if there is more than one line of text there then you have more than 1 partition. Press D to delete the partitions, and then L to confirm, until they are ALL gone. Then create one big partition.
done this and still only gives 233 gig
#40
linw
done this and still only gives 233 gig


Thats about right.
250GB is not the same as 250k bytes.
250k bytes is actually 232GB.

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