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Help with a damp problem

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banned9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
For a long time now i have had a small area in the corner of my room that is damp, had someone round over a year ago (one of thise that come and evaluate the insulation of your home) and he advised me i had a small hole in the wall outside and to fill it, other than that he had no idea what it could be, i filled the hole and still a year later have the same problem.

The only other suggestions i have had is there could be something underneath the house going on, i dont know how to even go about investigating this and even if a problem was found could not possibly afford to have anything done. I am a single mum and sometimes feel at my wits end, yes i may own my home but feel it is falling down around me as i cannot afford to get anything done (please dont start single mum get a job bashing)

Any help or advice would be really appreciated

sassie xxx
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banned9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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1 Like #1
you need to check if you have a dpc(damp course)will depend how old the house is.if there is no dpc the damp could be coming from underground and would be sorted by putting in a dpc.if you have a dpc you need to check wether it is the old damp or new.clean it up,dry out and observe.it maybe that the damp hasnt gone from the first lot.
banned#2
i would imagine it would be the old as its an old house, (do you mean the black stuff that is underneath the house) i have cleaned it up, but it just remains damp, the black has not come back but it is continually wet to touch, i have felt all up the wall and it all feels a little damp, now me starting to worry all the time, i just dont know what to do next :oops:
1 Like #3
A dehumidifier may help to start clear up some of the damp but that is a temporary solution.As the other poster has said get someone out to check your DPC,they should be able to advise you better and will give you a free quote.Prices can vary so it's advisable to get a few quotes in.
#4
its difficult to say without seeing it.the fact it hasn't dried would suggest you need a dehumidifier to dry it then watch and see what then happens.
1 Like #5
Maybe there is a grant available on on old house. Check with your council. Otherwise enquire what help is available free.:thumbsup:
banned#6
can either of you recommend who to call out? i suppose im so frightened to call someone out because of what they are going to say, but ignoring this problem ahsnt made it go away :oops:
banned#7
marshallka
Maybe there is a grant available on on old house. Check with your council. Otherwise enquire what help is available free.:thumbsup:

ther is no help available apparently, i have to wait for my house to fall down around me then i maybe, just maybe, might get some help :w00t:
#8
sassie
ther is no help available apparently, i have to wait for my house to fall down around me then i maybe, just maybe, might get some help :w00t:

Anyone in the house got breathing problems. ;-)

Something i did was to paint the wall with some damp seal ( a good quality one) and it helped in the corner of our house.
banned#9
marshallka
Anyone in the house got breathing problems. ;-)

only the little ones when i hold them too tight :giggle:

its awful really, i wish at times i had never brought, i had a new front door 4 years ago and the old was ripped out and took half the plaster with it, 4 years later it is still in the same state, no plaster on walls and you can see daylight between the door and the wall:oops: :oops:
#10
sassie
can either of you recommend who to call out? i suppose im so frightened to call someone out because of what they are going to say, but ignoring this problem ahsnt made it go away :oops:

Look under Damp Proofing in the Yellow Pages......there should be plenty of local firms for you to choose from.Get 2 or 3 of them to come and have a look and as I say,prices can vary if you do need to get remedial work done.

It costs you nothing to get them to have a look.

In the meantime,if you haven't got a dehumidifier you can hire them for not too much....that at least should start to help dry things up a bit.
1 Like #11
I assume that this is on the ground floor?
banned 1 Like #12
Sass Check your guttering for leaks around where you are getting the damp patch. 9 out of 10 times where damp is found its due to faulty guttering or roofing.

Other than that a solution may be an plastic airbrick in the outside wall. A builder will be able to install several of these very cheaply. Even cheaper would be to contact a bricky on his weekend off, they will love the cash in hand.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=13873&ts=27421
#13
muckypup

It costs you nothing to get them to have a look.


Maybe, maybe not. :thumbsup:
#14
muckypup
Look under Damp Proofing in the Yellow Pages......there should be plenty of local firms for you to choose from.Get 2 or 3 of them to come and have a look and as I say,prices can vary if you do need to get remedial work done.

It costs you nothing to get them to have a look.

Looking won't solve it though and often being a single mum they will say something terrible is happening....
banned#15
muckypup
Look under Damp Proofing in the Yellow Pages......there should be plenty of local firms for you to choose from.Get 2 or 3 of them to come and have a look and as I say,prices can vary if you do need to get remedial work done.

It costs you nothing to get them to have a look.

The chap that came from the insulation place (warmfront or something like that) said they only way to find out what is going in is to look underneath the problem, ie-underneath the house, but if you think these people will come and quote for free, its just you hear so many horror stories that they say this and do that and the problem still remains thousands of pounds later
#16
thesaint
Maybe, maybe not. :thumbsup:

Cost me nowt when I had to have it done :? ...........they want your business at the end of the day
banned#17
thesaint
I assume that this is on the ground floor?

yes it is, at the back of the house (dining room)
banned#18
UltimoScorpion
Sass Check your guttering for leaks around where you are getting the damp patch. 9 out of 10 times where damp is found its due to faulty guttering or roofing.

Other than that a solution may be an plastic airbrick in the outside wall. A builder will be able to install several of these very cheaply. Even cheaper would be to contact a bricky on his weekend off, they will love the cash in hand.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=13873&ts=27421

yes i have very bad guttering it all needs replacing, but i dont think where the damp is there is a problem, there is a bigger problem on the front of the house but no damp there,, yet, i have air vent thingies n every room as its an older house
#19
Is their anything against the wall that is causing it not to dry, or is the soil level (outside)higher than the floor level? :thinking:

If "No" then it is almost definitely rising damp, if it is RD then probably best to get a job stripping in the evenings because this is the only way to raise that sort of cash quickly. :)
banned#20
thesaint
Is their anything against the wall that is causing it not to dry, or is the soil level higher than the floor level?

If "No" then it is almost definitely rising damp, if it is RD then probably best to get a job stripping in the evenings because this is the only way to raise that sort of cash quickly. :

nothing against the wall, and no the floor level is higher than the soil, the chap that came out said he did not think it was rising damp (from what he had seen) he advised me if it had not cleared up after the summer to contact severn trent as maybe a leak underneath but there is no possible way on earth i could afford to get them out
#21
If it is coming from underneath, by definition it is rising damp, whatever the cause.
banned#22
thesaint
If it is coming from underneath, by definition it is rising damp, whatever the cause.

it must be coming from underneath as the carpet right in the corner has discolored from it, although this has never felt wet
#23
sassie
nothing against the wall, and no the floor level is higher than the soil, the chap that came out said he did not think it was rising damp (from what he had seen) he advised me if it had not cleared up after the summer to contact severn trent as maybe a leak underneath but there is no possible way on earth i could afford to get them out

What about your water pipes underneath the house. We have ours insured. I know someone that had a burst underneath and had to have the floors dug out and new ones etc. Best to ask your waterboard. I would actually ask for lots of opinions with free quotes so you know what you are dealing with first. :thumbsup:

Is there a smell too.
banned#24
marshallka
What about your water pipes underneath the house. We have ours insured. I know someone that had a burst underneath and had to have the floors dug out and new ones etc. Best to ask your waterboard. I would actually ask for lots of opinions with free quotes so you know what you are dealing with first. :thumbsup:

i used to have all the insurances for this and that, but cancelled most due to the cost all the time, i think its disgusting if its a burst severn trent pipe then why should i have to pay, it isnt mine, i cant remove it, or take it with me when i move
banned#25
i dont wish to tar everyone with the same brush but i just know that whoever i am going to get out is gonna say oh yes you need this and we'll do it for this amount, even if i dont :oops:
#26
sassie
i used to have all the insurances for this and that, but cancelled most due to the cost all the time, i think its disgusting if its a burst severn trent pipe then why should i have to pay, it isnt mine, i cant remove it, or take it with me when i move

I know, i always moan about the severn trent insurances we have. Back in our parents day they never had to insure all this and that. It maddens me too. I have been in your position too but not now. Its hard, i know.
banned#27
Keep in mind that this may be covered under your house insurance, check out if they offer assistance at least.

Was this a defect wrong with the house when you bought it? If so your mortgage company will have an interest in resolving the matter as they will not (like you) want the house to fall down.
banned#28
marshallka
I know, i always moan about the severn trent insurances we have. Back in our parents day they never had to insure all this and that. It maddens me too. I have been in your position too but not now. Its hard, i know.

aww thanks marshallka now me all built up, i get meself so down about it all lately, honestly my house is starting to look like a youth hostel , in the last year three of my light fittings have completely blown and now i just have a dangly light fitting (which i had to put up myself) with a light bulb in :oops:
#29
sassie
The chap that came from the insulation place (warmfront or something like that) said they only way to find out what is going in is to look underneath the problem, ie-underneath the house, but if you think these people will come and quote for free, its just you hear so many horror stories that they say this and do that and the problem still remains thousands of pounds later

There are cowboys out there but there are also many reputable companies.Having had a look in my yellow pages,some od the damp proofing companies,and indeed the one I used have the trustmark logo http://www.trustmark.org.uk/..look for companies that display this and you should be fine.
#30
sassie
i used to have all the insurances for this and that, but cancelled most due to the cost all the time, i think its disgusting if its a burst severn trent pipe then why should i have to pay, it isnt mine, i cant remove it, or take it with me when i move


Severn Trent will probably pass the liability to yourself(They did with my dad) but call them out anyway.

If you have a water meter, tell them that you believe that you are using more than you thought you should be. ;-)

I am also assuming that you are in a (Ex-local authority?) house with concrete floors.
banned#31
UltimoScorpion
Keep in mind that this may be covered under your house insurance, check out if they offer assistance at least.

Was this a defect wrong with the house when you bought it? If so your mortgage company will have an interest in resolving the matter as they will not (like you) want the house to fall down.

No it wasnt, i have looked all through my policy and cant see anywhere in my buildings or contents insurance that covers this
banned#32
thesaint
Severn Trent will probably pass the liability to yourself(They did with my dad) but call them out anyway.

If you have a water meter, tell them that you believe that you are using more than you thought you should be. ;-)

I am also assuming that you are in a (Ex-local authority?) house with concrete floors.

yes i am, thanks everyone for taking the time to post, but ive got myself all upset again now, so gonna go get a coffee and calm meself xxx
#33
sassie
aww thanks marshallka now me all built up, i get meself so down about it all lately, honestly my house is starting to look like a youth hostel , in the last year three of my light fittings have completely blown and now i just have a dangly light fitting (which i had to put up myself) with a light bulb in :oops:

You've got more than that. You've got your kids haven't you. They will love you for trying your best to keep a roof over their heads. Chin up and it will get solved sometime. Good luck.

By the way i had light fitting like that and curtains on wires. :)
#34
UltimoScorpion had the best suggestion with regards to insurance, whilst the insurance may not cover it, get them to tell you this themselves. :)

With regards to your front door, get a can of "Foam filler" it will fill the gap until you can get around to getting it done properly.

Don't get down about it, do something and it will feel much better.
You may get knocked back, but you will at least know what you are dealing with.
1 Like #35
sassie
yes i am, thanks everyone for taking the time to post, but ive got myself all upset again now, so gonna go get a coffee and calm meself xxx


Don't worry too much flower :thumbsup: It's a house.....it will be sortable, any chance of a piccy so we can see the problem?, or PM one to me if you'd prefer :-D be very happy to have a look, see if anything springs to mind. I've been doing up houses for many years and believe me there is ALWAYS a solution, no matter how grim it looks :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
#36
sassie
i used to have all the insurances for this and that, but cancelled most due to the cost all the time, i think its disgusting if its a burst severn trent pipe then why should i have to pay, it isnt mine, i cant remove it, or take it with me when i move


Legally you are responsible for the water supply pipe from the boundary of your property onwards into your house, BUT, if you do have a leak ( which would not be detectable by meter readings if your meter is in the house ) underground then Severn Trent will do a free repair in most circumstances as they are very conscious they must meet their leakage targets for OFWAT.
banned#37
All chilled again now, soz guys, posted a linkie
http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc254/sassie-sassie/?action=view&current=25-10-07_1833.jpg
#38
okay, well it's pretty localised and really just a SMALL patch, clearly there is some water staining, so there has been something very wet there at some point. Is it still damp to the touch now?? Has it been there since you moved in?

Am just wondering if it's an old problem that was cured previously but never re-decorated??

Do you have a pet?, maybe it likes to pee up the corner :-D may sound daft but need to go through a process of elimination
banned#39
MrGrumpyman
okay, well it's pretty localised and really just a SMALL patch, clearly there is some water staining, so there has been something very wet there at some point. Is it still damp to the touch now?? Has it been there since you moved in?

Am just wondering if it's an old problem that was cured previously but never re-decorated??

Do you have a pet?, maybe it likes to pee up the corner :-D may sound daft but need to go through a process of elimination

yes it is still damp now, if you move your hand all up the corner it feels damp but no staining only at the bottom.

last year it was black and i cleaned that off so that is the staining. only noticed it about 18 months ago and lived here 15 years

must admit i have been here 14 years and embaressed to say that is the only room that has not been redecorated, i have only ever repainted, so no it has not been stripped.

No never had any pets
#40
sassie
All chilled again now, soz guys, posted a linkie
http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc254/sassie-sassie/?action=view&current=25-10-07_1833.jpg



Aargh :w00t: Woodchip. :p

Sorry, looks like RD, i'm guessing that the damp proof membrane has failed.

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