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Helping me out with my wireless router please!

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Right, i will keep this nice and simple. I have had broadband internet for the past 10 days and yesterday i got myself a Linksys WRT54G Wireless router so both myself and my partner can connect our Ma… Read More
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banned6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
Right, i will keep this nice and simple. I have had broadband internet for the past 10 days and yesterday i got myself a Linksys WRT54G Wireless router so both myself and my partner can connect our Macbook Pros up to the wireless internet.

But the problem is we cannot seem to connect onto the wireless network. It shows up when searching for internet connecting even when its is open without a password or with a password it does not want to connect?!?!

I can plug my laptop directly (as i am doing now) into the broadband modem and it works so i have no idea what is wrong?

If you can reply speaking English and not too much computer language that would be fantastic.

Many thanks
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banned6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
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banned#1
did you go into the routers set-up and set it up for wireless access
#2
You might have it blocked on the firewall that you are using on them, shut down the firewall and see if it will connect. if it do then you know it is and if it don't you will know it's not that.
#3
when u enter the PW put a "$" dollar symbol in first then the pw - see if that works
#4
could be wrong so dont shoot but from what ive just googled macbook pro is wireless n and your router is wireless g/b could be wrong though
#5
actually on wiki shows youre router as defo wireless g/b
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series
so you need to find out about your macbook pro if it only supports wireless n then its a new router,stay ethernet connected or buy a usb g/b wireless network adapter
banned#6
This is the spec from the Apple website:

Wireless AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi (based on IEEE 802.11n specification)2; Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) wireless technology
#7
It will not connect to the wireless router or the Internet connection doesn't work after you have connected?
#8
nw7
This is the spec from the Apple website:Wireless AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi (based on IEEE 802.11n specification)2; Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) wireless technology
theres your problem then there not compatible
banned#9
The internet works when you use it directly with the Modem with the cable. Once you try to use the wireless router and connect just using wireless it will not connet, states full signal, shows the name for the wireless, enter in a password or even when it is unlocked it still won't connect!

So you think it is def the router!
#10
nw7
The internet works when you use it directly with the Modem with the cable. Once you try to use the wireless router and connect just using wireless it will not connet, states full signal, shows the name for the wireless, enter in a password or even when it is unlocked it still won't connect!

So you think it is def the router!


You are on Virgin Media cable broadband?

If yes, connect the modem to router's WAN/Internet port as normal and then turn the "modem" off and on again. Any change?
banned#11
Not on Virgin. Will give it ago tho! Been switching cables, turning on and off and lots of other things but still :(
#12
i am certain the reason it works with the cable is its direct and does not need to use any wireless technology when you try to connect via wireless it will not work because your router uses g/b wireless technology and your mac uses wireless n (square peg round hole)
you could buy a couple of these they will work with your router
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Technologies-802-11g-Wireless-Network-Adapter/dp/B000CC3ZFS/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1284902728&sr=1-2
or a new router like this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Technologies-802-11g-Wireless-Network-Adapter/dp/B000CC3ZFS/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1284902728&sr=1-2
#13
nw7
The internet works when you use it directly with the Modem with the cable

Does the Internet work when you connect to the back of the router (one of the four LAN ports) with a network cable?


Edited By: SUMMONER on Sep 19, 2010 14:45: ..
#14
SUMMONER
nw7
The internet works when you use it directly with the Modem with the cable
Does the Internet work when you connect to the back of the router (one of the four LAN ports) with a network cable?
this how she is on the internet now.
#15
nightstud
SUMMONER
nw7
The internet works when you use it directly with the Modem with the cable
Does the Internet work when you connect to the back of the router (one of the four LAN ports) with a network cable?

this how she is on the internet now.
I assumed she had modem "directly" connected to the computer?¿
#16
SUMMONER
nightstud
SUMMONER
nw7
The internet works when you use it directly with the Modem with the cable
Does the Internet work when you connect to the back of the router (one of the four LAN ports) with a network cable?
this how she is on the internet now.
I assumed she had modem "directly" connected to the computer?¿
well she is using a Linksys WRT54G Wireless router so i think its pc to router to phone socket
#17
i think by modem she means router
#18
nightstud
well she is using a Linksys WRT54G Wireless router so i think its pc to router to phone socket

WRT54G has no in-built modem. It has a WAN/Internet port for an external Ethernet Cable/ADSL modem. Making the whole thing one step more complicated to set-up.


To the OP: Who provides your broadband service please?


Edited By: SUMMONER on Sep 19, 2010 15:20: ..
banned#19
Right the Modem is connect straight to the phone socket. Then by a blue cable it is going directly into the Linksys wireless router.

But now to get onto the internet i am running a yellow cable directly from the modem to my Macbook.

I am currently studying in Denmark so have a company called Telenor.

Thanks
#20
more reading seems you can on a thread i read says: supposed to be on wep 128 bit hex
for wireless setup try that
banned#21
It maybe not just due to me using my Macbook Pro. Me and my partner tried to connect to the wireless internet using an XP Windows Laptop and it shows the wireless connection, go to connect and enter in the password and doesn't connect!

This is getting very frustrating now! Technology!
#22
I have a wireless WRT54G, so will try to help.

Step 1 - Connect frmo your MODEM to your Computer - Can you get online? (YES - You already are).
Step 2 - Connect from the MODEM to the WRT54G WAN/Internet port, and use another cable to connect from one of the other ports on the WRT54G to your computer. Can you get online?

If step 2 works ok, then keep it connected like that and post back and we can work from there.
Also is the WRT54G brand new, or did you get it 2nd hand? (Just wondering if it may already have some settings changed within it).

Feel free to PM if you would prefer to do it that way.
banned#23
Funder
I have a wireless WRT54G, so will try to help.

Step 1 - Connect frmo your MODEM to your Computer - Can you get online? (YES - You already are).
Step 2 - Connect from the MODEM to the WRT54G WAN/Internet port, and use another cable to connect from one of the other ports on the WRT54G to your computer. Can you get online?

If step 2 works ok, then keep it connected like that and post back and we can work from there.
Also is the WRT54G brand new, or did you get it 2nd hand? (Just wondering if it may already have some settings changed within it).

Feel free to PM if you would prefer to do it that way.


Thanks

Step 1 works fine!

Step 2 - will try and get another cable to do this today!

The router is from my partners parents its 2nd hand but never really used too much!

Thanks
#24
Ok, let me know how you get on, then drop me a PM and we'll see what we can do :)
banned#25
The details from the Modem website is:



WAN



Router IP - 85.81.11.179

IP Subnet Mask - 255.255.255.255



LAN



IP - 10.0.0.1



IP Subnet - 255.255.255.0



DHCP - Server



So confused i thought this setting up should be easy.
#26
The issue is totally unrelated to the n standard since the n is mandated to be compatible with g. If your wifi n adapter is not compatible with the wifi g router (or even wifi b) you have a cause of complaint to Apple because industry standard specifications are very strict and if Apple's network adapter is not meeting the specifications it cannot be described as 802.11n!

If you can see the wireless broadcast name but not connect to it, then the problem is not internet related but network related (based on how you have described the symptoms). In order for a router to allow a connection, the DHCP must not have expired and this may be the issue. The DHCP is used to keep track of computers connected to the network and has a lease time so if the lease time has elapsed, connection cannot be made. The main cause of this is that the internal clock of the router is not set to the correct time so it is worth ensuring that the clock is set correctly (consult the user documentation on how to set this in the user setup interface). In order to ensure the clock is constantly up to date (without repeated manual configurations) you can synchronise the clock with servers that meet Network Time Protocol specifications. What this means is that you choose an IP address of an NTP server (or the hostname if the router setup allows it) and enter it in the user setup (again the user documetation will navigate you to the correct location within the setup). Typical NTP servers can be found here http://www.timetools.co.uk/ntp-servers/ref/ntp-server-uk.htm
#27
Oh another way to test the network connection without having to buy another cable (so don't buy one just yet) is to:

- Don't bother testing internet just yet. This is totally pointless because you cannot even establish a network connection. You need the network connection first before you can access the internet.
- Take out the LAN cable connecting modem to router.
- Connect that LAN cable from router to PC's LAN port and see if the network connects. Of course there will be no internet but we need to establish what is wrong with the network.


Edited By: ElliottC on Sep 20, 2010 15:51: .
banned#28
Still not working!
#29
nw7
Still not working!


- Go to the Linksys support site and select your hardware version number from the list.
Make absolutely sure it is a WRT54G and not one of the other variants ie: WRT54GL, GS, G2 etc...

- click Download on the far left, below where it says Firmware
- unpack the downloaded zip file (if it doesn't do it automatically) you now have 2 files a TXT (text) file and a BIN file, which is the latest Operating System software for the router.
- re-connect the macbook to the router via the network cable
- start Firefox/Safari and log into your router's configuration interface as normal
- click Administration followed by Firmware upgrade in the menu at the top
- click browse and find/select the .BIN file you unpacked earlier and click the Upgrade button


Do not touch the router after that, until you either get the on screen message saying the upgrade was successful or 15 minutes have past.
If the upgrade is interrupted for any reason the router may cease to function all together.

- Ones all that is done, click on Administration/Factory defaults and reset the router to it's default configuration.
- Now re-try to connect to the router wirelessly.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Sep 20, 2010 21:25: ..
banned#30
SUMMONER
nw7
Still not working!


- Go to the Linksys support site and select your hardware version number from the list.
Make absolutely sure it is a WRT54G and not one of the other variants ie: WRT54GL, GS, G2 etc...

- click Download on the far left, below where it says Firmware
- unpack the downloaded zip file (if it doesn't do it automatically) you now have 2 files a TXT (text) file and a BIN file, which is the latest Operating System software for the router.
- re-connect the macbook to the router via the network cable
- start Firefox/Safari and log into your router's configuration interface as normal
- click Administration followed by Firmware upgrade in the menu at the top
- click browse and find/select the .BIN file you unpacked earlier and click the Upgrade button


Do not touch the router after that, until you either get the on screen message saying the upgrade was successful or 15 minutes have past.
If the upgrade is interrupted for any reason the router may cease to function all together.

- Ones all that is done, click on Administration/Factory defaults and reset the router to it's default configuration.
- Now re-try to connect to the router wirelessly.


I have downloaded the last software and still the same thing happening! Or not happening!
banned#31
Thanks for everyones help i just went out and bought a new router and worked within 1 minute of setting it up and it was reduced from £60 to £16 as well due to not having a box! Even better!

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