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Hermes may face HMRC investigation into allegations of low pay

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Who knew ;) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/11/hermes-may-face-hmrc-investigation-into-allegations-of-low-pay Read More
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Who knew? The couriers have known for several years. Add Yodel to the list paying 50p for a courier to make 3 attempts at delivery and even then not guaranteed to be paid.

Maybe some other companies can have some pressure instead of just Sports Directs (zero hour contract). AgeUk have care assistants on 0 hour contracts -OH travels 30mins to earn 1hr at just over min wage and no travel pay unless its from one client to another, do we value trainers over pensioners?
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splatsplatsplat
Who knew? The couriers have known for several years. Add Yodel to the list paying 50p for a courier to make 3 attempts at delivery and even then not guaranteed to be paid.
Maybe some other companies can have some pressure instead of just Sports Directs (zero hour contract). AgeUk have care assistants on 0 hour contracts -OH travels 30mins to earn 1hr at just over min wage and no travel pay unless its from one client to another, do we value trainers over pensioners?
Hence the wink ;)
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splatsplatsplat
...do we value trainers over pensioners?

It is *touch-and-go which will last longer, especially from Sports Direct.

* Having a stroke doesn't count.
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I do wonder why it's allowed to be classed as self employment if you only work for one company, especially full time. It's obviously a wheeze to get out of paying people properly. In fact, I think there are some rules about it, but they aren't fit for purpose.

Feel very sorry for people who work for Hermes. Our local Hermes guy does a much better job than all the others.
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moneysavingkitten
I do wonder why it's allowed to be classed as self employment if you only work for one company, especially full time. It's obviously a wheeze to get out of paying people properly. In fact, I think there are some rules about it, but they aren't fit for purpose.
Feel very sorry for people who work for Hermes. Our local Hermes guy does a much better job than all the others.
Not bad someone left something here on the wrong street once and I had to deliver it myself but that is going back a few years X)
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thewongwing101
moneysavingkitten
I do wonder why it's allowed to be classed as self employment if you only work for one company, especially full time. It's obviously a wheeze to get out of paying people properly. In fact, I think there are some rules about it, but they aren't fit for purpose.
Feel very sorry for people who work for Hermes. Our local Hermes guy does a much better job than all the others.
Not bad someone left something here on the wrong street once and I had to deliver it myself but that is going back a few years X)

Ours is really polite and turns up smartly dressed enough to work in an office!
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moneysavingkitten
thewongwing101
moneysavingkitten
I do wonder why it's allowed to be classed as self employment if you only work for one company, especially full time. It's obviously a wheeze to get out of paying people properly. In fact, I think there are some rules about it, but they aren't fit for purpose.
Feel very sorry for people who work for Hermes. Our local Hermes guy does a much better job than all the others.
Not bad someone left something here on the wrong street once and I had to deliver it myself but that is going back a few years X)
Ours is really polite and turns up smartly dressed enough to work in an office!
:D:D I wasna dissing em just like a shopping news thing and all
The Grannyad seem to be going big on the story
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/11/hermes-driver-lost-rounds-asking-swap-days

Edited By: thewongwing101 on Sep 11, 2016 20:53
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I cannot believe that zero hours contracts are legal. If you do start to work on a second contract to make up your hours you are simply let go from the first. I know of people who even though they have been told there is no work that day are expected to stay available just in case something comes in last minute. They aren't paid any standby rates though. Again, if they complain they are simply not given any further hours. Can't be right. I reckon if Labour campaigned to scrap these at next election they'd win by a landslide.
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73greystoke
I cannot believe that zero hours contracts are legal. If you do start to work on a second contract to make up your hours you are simply let go from the first. I know of people who even though they have been told there is no work that day are expected to stay available just in case something comes in last minute. They aren't paid any standby rates though. Again, if they complain they are simply not given any further hours. Can't be right. I reckon if Labour campaigned to scrap these at next election they'd win by a landslide.
Trouble is mate 'only' around a million work under these contracts and a few mil more under similar conditions
the Labour party is tearing itself apart again it had an Everest to climb anyway
right now we may as well be living in north Korea
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thewongwing101
73greystoke
I cannot believe that zero hours contracts are legal. If you do start to work on a second contract to make up your hours you are simply let go from the first. I know of people who even though they have been told there is no work that day are expected to stay available just in case something comes in last minute. They aren't paid any standby rates though. Again, if they complain they are simply not given any further hours. Can't be right. I reckon if Labour campaigned to scrap these at next election they'd win by a landslide.
Trouble is mate 'only' around a million work under these contracts and a few mil more under similar conditions
the Labour party is tearing itself apart again it had an Everest to climb anyway
right now we may as well be living in north Korea


well hardly North Korea.
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moneysavingkitten
I do wonder why it's allowed to be classed as self employment if you only work for one company, especially full time. It's obviously a wheeze to get out of paying people properly. In fact, I think there are some rules about it, but they aren't fit for purpose.
Feel very sorry for people who work for Hermes. Our local Hermes guy does a much better job than all the others.
The CEOs and the elite have drafted the governance, law, contracts, management practices to be the Everest of achievement of low cost, come whatever. And they have done it to the extremely best efforts. The benefit is lower prices for customers as they make a "guaranteed" profit. In achieving these low prices, the insufficient "wages" and taxes are borne personally by low paid, working tax credit from other tax-payers and immigration workers where £6-7 is worth much more spending power when remitted back home and plus child benefits sent abroad.
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Much the same as exporting low paid jobs abroad to outside of the EU. These couriers need to be physically in GB, so they ingeniously chartered a minimal labour cost route.

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