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6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
Just a thougt.

I was watchng the news about the recent earthquake and they showed horrendus pictures of the dead and children you looked helpless.

I normally give money to charity on a weekly basis, and I'm sure i'll give more this time round. But then I thought - what about our homeless and the recent consecutive nights of perma-frost.

I'm just a "middle class" england person who doesnt frequesnt these circles - does anyone know how our homeless have coped with the recent/current snow?
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6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
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#3
"They said that he was actually found frozen."
Nicole is talking to me about a friend of hers.
An older man. Who froze to death, on the streets. In Glasgow. This Christmas.
"The cold was definitely a factor", she tells me.


Nothing gets past her.... :lol:
#4
I feel for the people who actually live on the streets, even more in this weather.
There for the grace of God, I say.
#5
lisat
There for the grace of God, I say.


You mean they deserve it or are doing it to please god?:thinking:
#6
No Shengis, What I mean is I hope, never to be in that position.
I'm sure many homeless people never thought they would end up living on the streets.
#7
lisat
No Shengis, What I mean is I hope, never to be in that position.
I'm sure many homeless people never thought they would end up living on the streets.


Oh, there but for the grace of imaginary being you meant then ;-)

Thinking about it I haven't seen any homeless people about. Well actually I know of 1, he seemed ok last time we saw him.
suspended#8
The people in Haiti need help about a billion times more than a couple of homeless people here.
Haiti is the poorest country in the western hemisphere, we are almost the complete opposite, we are not a poor country.
Haiti just got hit by it's worst earthquake in over 200 years, killing up to 100,000 people. Here the people have just a bit of snow.

Please use common sense and donate to Haiti rather than some drug addicts on the streets of the UK.
#9
lisat;7541102
No Shengis, What I mean is I hope, never to be in that position.
I'm sure many homeless people never thought they would end up living on the streets.

............... . & sadly many thought they would & that's why they did!
#10
DarkKnight
Please use common sense and donate to Haiti rather than some drug addicts on the streets of the UK.


Cue the laughing cow......
#11
why are people homeless here?with housing benefit/council tax benefit etc wont they pay 4 them to have somewhere to live?
#12
edjaned
why are people homeless here?with housing benefit/council tax benefit etc wont they pay 4 them to have somewhere to live?


It's not as easy as that though. A lot of places will say no DSS, references needed, months rent in advance/deposit etc.
#13
Shengis
It's not as easy as that though. A lot of places will say no DSS, references needed, months rent in advance/deposit etc.


oh right,never known anyone in that situation so just wondered why it was so hard to get somewhere to live,saying that though isnt there some seems called nacro or something and they pay the deposit for u?i can imagine its hard without refs etc especially if u have had money probs in the past
#14
speaking of homeless I read an article in the newspaper the otherday that there is 22000 people on the list for housing from housing associations as the price of houses has gone up or people have lost their house thats alot
#15
camlen79
speaking of homeless I read an article in the newspaper the otherday that there is 22000 people on the list for housing from housing associations as the price of houses has gone up or people have lost their house thats alot


Well if the government didn't keep giving the houses to immigrants.....

2nd call for the laughing cow :lol:
#16
Shengis
Well if the government didn't keep giving the houses to immigrants.....

2nd call for the laughing cow :lol:


and selling them on,the thing is when they sell the council houses they dont replace them!and they should also have more stock 4 the elderly as around here they built some little bungalow flat things and gave elderly the choice to vacate there council house and move into somewhere more suitable and managable and also leaving a house for a new family
#17
edjaned
why are people homeless here?with housing benefit/council tax benefit etc wont they pay 4 them to have somewhere to live?


Cos the supposed safety nets have great big holes in them. Many of the homeless often have additional problems that make them more challenging to deal with or require more than the regular support needs. And cos they dont generally have a 'loud' enough voice they get overlooked. The streets are not paved with gold for the most needy regardless of what certain newspapers will suggest.
#18
DarkKnight
The people in Haiti need help about a billion times more than a couple of homeless people here.
Haiti is the poorest country in the western hemisphere, we are almost the complete opposite, we are not a poor country.
Haiti just got hit by it's worst earthquake in over 200 years, killing up to 100,000 people. Here the people have just a bit of snow.

Please use common sense and donate to Haiti rather than some drug addicts on the streets of the UK.


I understand what you saying but nto your logic - if I donate to Haiti how can it be guaranteed that it won't end up with some drug addict in Haiti - are you saying they don't exist?
#19
soled73
I understand what you saying but nto your logic - if I donate to Haiti how can it be guaranteed that it won't end up with some drug addict in Haiti - are you saying they don't exist?


I think the sheer scale of the Haiti situation marks it out as worthy of particular help. But you are right to keep the homeless situation of those nearer to home in mind
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soled73
I understand what you saying but nto your logic - if I donate to Haiti how can it be guaranteed that it won't end up with some drug addict in Haiti - are you saying they don't exist?


If you donate to a charity helping people hit by a disaster, then they would almost definitely use most of the money to supply food, water and shelter to the people first. Or giving the money to rescue teams to help save lives.
I doubt that they actually give cash to people, but help them in the most beneficial way such as the above, this eliminates the concern of giving bad people money such as the type you questioned.

By going up to a homeless person in the UK and giving them cash, is totally opposite of what i described and would 90% be used for alcohol or drugs which got them homeless in the first place.

There are homeless people in every country, homeless people in the UK are in less need than homeless people in other countries.
A person being British should not mean that that person is more entitled to charitable donations over someone in another country.
#21
soled73
I understand what you saying but nto your logic - if I donate to Haiti how can it be guaranteed that it won't end up with some drug addict in Haiti - are you saying they don't exist?


But of course it is possible that any someone who is homeless in the UK may have drug issues as well.
May or may not. But drug issues are a known contributory factor in many homeless cases.
#22
Wierd in a way that I was commenting in this thread yesterday just before watching Ch4 documentary Slumming it last night.
kevin McCloud stayed with a family that lived 21 to a house before he arrived. They slept squashed together on the floor.
I guess being homeless says a lot about our society when you consider how people live elsewhere.

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