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Housing / Council Tax benefit query. Returning to work. Is it now impossible?

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banned8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
Hopefully someone will know a bit more than I do about returning to work.

Basically a friend of mine would like to return to work. She is a single mother aged about 40 with a 12 year old child. She received full council tax benefit (i.e. she doesnt pay anything) and housing benefit of £775 for a one bedroomed flat. She also received roughly around £150 per week in income support and child benefit.

She has been offered bar work with hours to suit but she has been informed by the benefits office that ALL wages earnt will be deducted from the income she currently receives.

So, basically she would be working for nothing. Surely this cannot be right as otherwise she would need to get a job paying around £30,000 a year before she would be better off than she is now. I reckon the benefit agencies are wrong.

Any help appreciated be it first hand experiences or online calculators, advice etc.

Thanks.
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banned8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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#2
She can go off income support and claim tax credits. If she calls tax credits they will tell her what she will get?
She will then still get council tax/rent/free prescriptions etc..
#3
she will have to let them know at review each year what she has earned and they reassess. I took a job where i had a low basic and was paid commission as they didnt count commission as it wasnt guaranteed. Dont know if that still applies. I was MUCH better off!
She can also go to the jobcentre and they will do a full calculation comparison. She should also check if she can get a grant for clothing as it used to be £150 but depends on her circumstances..
banned#5
Thanks all. Will investigate further.

It seems clear from initial reading that she would be worse off going back to any form of work unless she gets a mega wage..........
#6
As of early next year your friend will no longer be entitled to income support as single parents who's youngest child is 12 or over will have to move onto JSA and actively seek work. Lone parents with an existing IS award who have a youngest child of 12 or over, or whose youngest child reaches 12 between 27th October 2008 and 27th January 2009, will continue to receive IS until the payday before their first Work Focused Interview after 27th January 2009. They will then have to make a claim for JSA. Given this, your friend may feel it makes sense to start part time work now with a view to going full time when her entitlement to IS ceases. The first £20 of any earnings will not be deducted from your friends IS whilst she is still claiming as a lone parent (as long as she continues to satisfy the other requirements to claim IS).
#7
Your friend will get to keep the first £20 but then everything else will be deducted from income support. But if she earns more than her weekly income support I don't think they take pound for pound off of the housing benefit

She may also be able to claim tax credits if she is on a low income.

She should make an appointment to see an advisor and they will work out exactly what and how much she will be entitled to if she goes back to work
#8
I'm sure I've heard something about you're allowed to work for up to 16 hours a week without it affecting things (well, as long as you're not on a grand an hour, lol)

I'm not clued up on this by any means I'm afraid, I just remember hearing someone talking about being allowed to work up to those hours, whilst still being a lone parent, and still getting their housing benefit etc paid.
banned#9
as already said she will be able to keep £20 per week of what she earns, the rest is taken off her, if she works under 16 hours, she will also from october be able to keep £20 per week of any maintenance paid (if on the new system - not sure about old)

She needs to speak to her advisor at the job centre as things are changing all the time
#10
What bar is she going to work at?
banned#11
Benjimoron;2995703
What bar is she going to work at?

The Ferry Inn or maybe Nias

£775 is about the going rate for a 2 bedroom flat around here (my mistake by putting down 1 bed earlier :oops:).
#12
csiman
The Ferry Inn or maybe Nias

£775 is about the going rate for a 2 bedroom flat around here (my mistake by putting down 1 bed earlier :oops:).


Where are they? In town? Not heard of them. Don't go to bars much.

Get a nice place in Emerald Quays for that!
banned#13
Benjimoron;2995828
Where are they? In town? Not heard of them. Don't go to bars much.

Get a nice place in Emerald Quays for that!

Ferry is opposite the footbridge on the corner of the high st and Nias is a posh wine bar next to the alliance & leicester.

The flat is in the high st.

Rather live there than "chavsville quay - the final resting place for somerfield trolleys" lol
#14
Not a fan of Emerald Quays then? Nice swimming pool and gym!
banned#15
Benjimoron;2996004
Not a fan of Emerald Quays then? Nice swimming pool and gym!

when there isnt a trolley in there. Last few times I have looked in and there has been one in there.
#16
csiman
when there isnt a trolley in there. Last few times I have looked in and there has been one in there.


In the swimming pool???
#17
If she starts work and works under 16 hours she can claim 'Child Tax Credit', she should claim this instead of income support, also they don't account for any maintenence you get (but housing benefit do). If she works over 16 hours a week she can claim 'Working family Tax Credit'.
Mostly you are better off now when you go back to work unless you earn a really high wage.

I think with some people (myself included) you just have to take the plunge and go back to work, its just a matter of going back out into the big wide world, a lot of people IMO work for nothing when they have mortgage and rent to pay its just part and parcel of life. A lot of people get scared thinking that they are working for nothing but at the end of the day if they have never claimed benefits (say if they didn't have children or what not) then they would have to work and pay rent anyway. I have recently gone back to work myself and pay part rent, council tax ect but it doesn't bother me that I'm not that much better off its just the enjoyment of going back to work which I would have to do sooner or later anyway (my kids are 9 & 6) :)
banned#18
Benjimoron;2996496
In the swimming pool???

Yep!
banned#19
malibu777;2996597
If she starts work and works under 16 hours she can claim 'Child Tax Credit', she should claim this instead of income support, also they don't account for any maintenence you get (but housing benefit do). If she works over 16 hours a week she can claim 'Working family Tax Credit'.
Mostly you are better off now when you go back to work unless you earn a really high wage.

I think with some people (myself included) you just have to take the plunge and go back to work, its just a matter of going back out into the big wide world, a lot of people IMO work for nothing when they have mortgage and rent to pay its just part and parcel of life. A lot of people get scared thinking that they are working for nothing but at the end of the day if they have never claimed benefits (say if they didn't have children or what not) then they would have to work and pay rent anyway. I have recently gone back to work myself and pay part rent, council tax ect but it doesn't bother me that I'm not that much better off its just the enjoyment of going back to work which I would have to do sooner or later anyway (my kids are 9 & 6) :)

Thanks for that. i will pass on all the great advice.
#20
csiman
Yep!


Get out!

I've never seen a person in that swimming pool, let alone a shopping trolley!
banned#21
Benjimoron;2997665
Get out!

I've never seen a person in that swimming pool, let alone a shopping trolley!

its on the bottom so you must have missed it lol
#22
csiman
its on the bottom so you must have missed it lol


Are we talking about the same swimming pool? Or are you talking about the quay?

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