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How can garage labour times vary so much?!

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Been ringing around getting quotes to have my water pump changed,some garages are quoting 3 and a half hours work,one quoted me 5 hours and another 6 and a half,how can they get away with it?! the la… Read More
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8y, 5m agoPosted 8 years, 5 months ago
Been ringing around getting quotes to have my water pump changed,some garages are quoting 3 and a half hours work,one quoted me 5 hours and another 6 and a half,how can they get away with it?!
the last one ive just rung said 3 hours labour,think i will try and find someone to do it cash in hand at this rate
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8y, 5m agoPosted 8 years, 5 months ago
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#1
Garages must be suffering as much as anyone, play one off against the other.
#2
i reckon theyre out to take the piddle as much as they can lol
#3
Depending on the vehicle, layout of engine it can be a pig of a job. Cambelt has to come off and then lined up again after fitting can be a real nightmare.

I would aim for a middle figure, 3 hours sounds reasonable 5-6 bit drawn out. But it depends on vehicle.
#4
Well to be frank it's because they can! i am taking my car into the garage in the morning to have the cam belt done and a gas flow valve sorted about £500 quoted:x
#5
is there a lot of difference between a 2 litre engine and the v6 cos as soon as they ask and i say its the v6 version the price goes up!
#6
It is if your moving the cambelt, if its a V6 i can now see why the labour times are so long.

Stinker of a job
#7
mikebike
Well to be frank it's because they can! i am taking my car into the garage in the morning to have the cam belt done and a gas flow valve sorted about £500 quoted:x


Thats about right for a Scoob, what you got?
#8
Celticsun
Thats about right for a Scoob, what you got?

Sabb 93 tid vector sport:)
#9
what car Mardyass?

as mentioned before some are a piece of ...cake

other are a right ...difficult job

EliTom
#10
also be carefull getting someone to do it cash in hand.

If it's a straightforward job then OK, but if it's complex or requires the cambelt, for instance, to be removed then there is teh risk that if they do not do it correctly, you could have a bigger bill later.

If the cash in hand person do not know the ins and out of the particular car they may not evenm know they are making a mistake !!!!

EliTom
#11
mikebike
Sabb 93 tid vector sport:)


Not too bad to do, still PITA if a remember, never done one but seen it done.

Mate had cambelt done on his Impreza (just the belt) £550 eeeeeek!

Boxer engines are a nightmare though, mind you most twin cams are a beeeetch lining up.
#12
water pump won't be off a cambelt will it? be an aux belt surely.
#13
greg_68
water pump won't be off a cambelt will it? be an aux belt surely.



quite common on modern engines

EliTom
#14
greg_68
water pump won't be off a cambelt will it? be an aux belt surely.


VW Polos have had them off cam since at least 1990... for example.

I do miss the old fords... Fix or Repair Daily... but at least it was easy enough to do with some bed spanners and gaffer tape :thumbsup:
#15
its an old ford probe,its the most reliable of my cars believe it or not so want it done asap
banned#16
mate charged me £50 plus £40 parts :) golf 1.4

though garage charged me £75 6 years ago, but that was just the belt I think.
#17
the water pump itself is just under £40 its the labour thats the killer as always
#18
Mardyass
the water pump itself is just under £40 its the labour thats the killer as always


from memory these cars had Mazda engines so maybe not so easy

Maybe thats why its time consuming

EliTom
#19
yeah thats right most bits you can either buy mazda or the probe parts but 9 times out of 10 the mazda parts are cheaper :)
#20
Get the cambelt done and get the water pump done as part of it (they will only charge a minimal extra labour, plus parts for cambelt and antifreeze/coolant replacement). Around £250 would be expected, depending on where you are in the country.
#21
pghstochaj
Get the cambelt done and get the water pump done as part of it (they will only charge a minimal extra labour, plus parts for cambelt and antifreeze/coolant replacement). Around £250 would be expected, depending on where you are in the country.
oh thats an idea i wonder if the price would drop a bit then:thumbsup:
#22
Well they will see it as a bit more of a standard job and you have to do most of the work anyway - this way you get a new cambelt kit. It should theoretically cost more but makes a lot more sense as you get more value from the labour. They should be using dealer (autodata) times for how long the job will take and then multiplying it by their labour rate (non-dealer should be in the region of £50/hour depending on location). Water pumps and cambelt kits are not particularly costly. The labour is very car depedent though, but my last car's cambelt change was £250 approximately including the water pump at a Renault indepedent specialist. Some cars need the engine dropping/moving (or even removing) and this is when labour can be 8 hours.
#23
thanks for that,it seems to be the fact that once they know its the v6 it seems to be a much longer job,from what they say the 2 litre version isnt as time consuming,must get it sorted asap as i put that barrs leak stuff in it and its still peeing water out so not even that did a temporary fix!
#24
pghstochaj
Well they will see it as a bit more of a standard job and you have to do most of the work anyway - this way you get a new cambelt kit. It should theoretically cost more but makes a lot more sense as you get more value from the labour. They should be using dealer (autodata) times for how long the job will take and then multiplying it by their labour rate (non-dealer should be in the region of £50/hour depending on location). Water pumps and cambelt kits are not particularly costly. The labour is very car depedent though, but my last car's cambelt change was £250 approximately including the water pump at a Renault indepedent specialist. Some cars need the engine dropping/moving (or even removing) and this is when labour can be 8 hours.


Surely most non dealer garages charge around £35 or is £50 the going rate in England? What in gods name do the dealer garages charge? And surely if you get a mechanic to do it as a homer will be way cheaper? Though harder to get it fixed asap if it is homer? Sounds like newer cars are expensive to fix as they dont build them for easy repairs! makes me wonder why people spend thousands on new cars when you can run a 10+ year old car and parts and repairs are a lot less!! No wonder my ex who served his time as a mechanic said he would never buy a car under 2 years old and there was no way in hell he would spend over £5000 for a vehicle, as at end of day speed limits were in place, they all had seat and a roof and got you from A to B which was the objective at the end of the day!
#25
but its how you get there that is worth more than 5k :)

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