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how difficult to build a desktop

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banned9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
Hi all, as the title says really, i am wondering if i could get my kids a cheap desktop if i could build myself, the one they have struggles and cannot afford to pay alot out at the mo, they need something that will play the likes of the sims, etc, etc

any advice appreciated :-D
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banned9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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1 Like #1
This is pretty easy to do, i built my first one at aged 14 [two years ago] in 3 hours using an online step-by-step guide.

If you would post a budget im sure us pc 'nerd' will whip you up a nice pc

Would you want a monitor?
banned#2
Hi t0mm, thanks for offering your help :thumbsup:

i know naff all about comps, all i have ever done is added memory and a pci card, so as you can see im not really up on this stuff.

Like i said i want something that will play the sims etc, a monitor i do need as theres is like a brick, i want something i dont need to upgrade in a weeks time, as i know nothing about cost of these things cant really say a budget, a waste of time saying £200 if i cant get what i need for that, if you know what i mean, just thinking if its cheaper to build or buy already done
banned#3
Buy a barebones system, then just add bits as you feel is necessary and when the budget allows

http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=barebones
banned 1 Like #4
t0mm
This is pretty easy to do, i built my first one at aged 14 [two years ago] in 3 hours using an online step-by-step guide.

If you would post a budget im sure us pc 'nerd' will whip you up a nice pc

Would you want a monitor?


3 hours? Wow took me weeks, City Link are pants.
banned#5
thansk US, i think maybe i need to actually get reading up on whats what really, i have no idea about graphic cards, etc, etc, so i suppose it would be helpful if i knew what i was looking for
banned 1 Like #6
It not hard to build one, but it's hard to beat some of the pre-built systems available on ebay IMO.

I got one off ebay for a friends kid:
Type core2duo in the search bar on ebay :)
1 Like #7
I recently built myself a top end computer in an hour and a half, so it really doesnt take that long.
banned 1 Like #8
banned 1 Like #9
As others have said, its pretty easy to build.

However, configuration once build can be a problem. By that I refer to potential incompatibity problems.

Ive built loads and still run into this. (Biggest culprit is ATI video cards!)

If you go for it, just make sure you have good ventilation and ensure the CPU is fitted correctly. Make it a neat install (ie tidy the cables) and you wont go far wrong.

However, its often the case these days, that cheap off the shelf desktops actually end up costing less than building your own. Its usually when you want specific / higher end builds that this is reversed.
banned 1 Like #10
oh my, after reading just a few pages from the link i am cafuddled, maybe this isnt a great idea :oops: I have left rep for all your help guys :thumbsup:
banned#11
If the legs or base is already there, just screw some wood to the top, or nail it.
banned#12
JDeal
If the legs or base is already there, just screw some wood to the top, or nail it.

errrrrrrrrr come again :?
banned#13
JDeal
If the legs or base is already there, just screw some wood to the top, or nail it.

ok got ya :giggle: :giggle:
#14
if I were you I'd buy a base dell and then maybe upgrade some of the bits and pieces.

Is there any specific budget or task this PC should do you've got in mind (e.g. gaming, photo editing, etc.)?
banned#15
kemot1984
if I were you I'd buy a base dell and then maybe upgrade some of the bits and pieces.

Is there any specific budget or task this PC should do you've got in mind (e.g. gaming, photo editing, etc.)?

only the sims sorta games really, little one tends to play on cbeebies and sites like that but dughter uses it for sims, roller coaster etc,etc, im not sure how i find out if the one they have has got anything worth keeping, or veen if its cheap enough to upgrade
banned#16
Pretty much everything can be upgraded, however if its performance you need then the motherboard and chip is the starter, which is the most expensive part(s). Usually a clean wipe of the drive and a re-install can do wonders. Check out [url]www.computeractive.co.uk[/url] forums for more information or try http://www.cyberwalker.com/article/587
#17
sassie
only the sims sorta games really, little one tends to play on cbeebies and sites like that but dughter uses it for sims, roller coaster etc,etc, im not sure how i find out if the one they have has got anything worth keeping, or veen if its cheap enough to upgrade


have a look at the dell inspirons and vostros that MikeT posts here ever now and then. You'll not be able to buy parts at these prices.
banned#18
[url]www.komplett.co.uk[/url]
[url]www.dabs.co.uk[/url]
[url]www.ebuyer.co.uk[/url]
[url]www.simply.co.uk[/url]

These will all offer parts fairly reasonably priced
banned#19
UltimoScorpion
Pretty much everything can be upgraded, however if its performance you need then the motherboard and chip is the starter, which is the most expensive part(s). Usually a clean wipe of the drive and a re-install can do wonders. Check out [url]www.computeractive.co.uk[/url] forums for more information or try http://www.cyberwalker.com/article/587

i reformatted it not so long ago, it helped a little, i mean it hasnt got much but fare play it plays the sims just extrememly slowly :oops:
banned#20
sassie
i reformatted it not so long ago, it helped a little, i mean it hasnt got much but fare play it plays the sims just extrememly slowly :oops:



Here you go sassie, try running everest ultimate trial version on your system:
http://www.download.com/Everest-Ultimate-Edition/3000-2086_4-10662415.html?tag=lst-0-1

It will give you a report of your system, then you could work out if it is upgradable and whether it is worth it or not. :thumbsup:
banned#21
thank you soupy, have dowloaded on me lappy to see what it is
banned#22
ok, so what exactly do you look for to see if its upgradable :? and :oops:
#23
It's probably easiest if you just post the PC model, processor, ram, motherboard, graphics card etc. from the results you've been provided from the software. Is this a laptop or a desktop?

John
banned#24
Johnmcl7
It's probably easiest if you just post the PC model, processor, ram, motherboard, graphics card etc. from the results you've been provided from the software. Is this a laptop or a desktop?

John

hi john, i have downloaded it to my laptop to see what it showed up, but it is a desktop that i was looking to replace, but then wondered if it maybe upgradable untill finances are a little less tight, but if its going to cost a lot to upgrade im not sure it will be worth it

I am off to feed the family now, but will run this on desktop and come back and post what you have asked for
#25
Well, you can see - my younger brother still happily uses one of my old P4 systems with a GF4 Ti graphics card mainly playing MMORPGs. It may well be possible that popping a cheap graphics card or some more ram would do what you need.

John
#26
Building it yourself is not hard but be VERY careful when putting in the cpu as if you snap the pins your in trouble
banned#27
right have downloaded to desktop

i can now copy and paste from the report, so what do you need as it is so long, its over 200 pages long
#28
Motherboard model and manufacturer, processor, ram and graphics card would be a good start.

John
1 Like #29
Cheap pc parts:

[url]www.overclockers.co.uk[/url]
[url]www.scan.co.uk[/url]
[url]www.komplett.co.uk[/url]
[url]www.aria.co.uk[/url]
[url]www.cclonline.co.uk[/url]

All good reputable supplier (apart from the fact the guy who owns Overclockers appaears to be a facist nazi).

Anyhooo!

If you can fit memory and a PCI card, you can easily build a PC, it really is plug and play, just making sure you get the right bits to complement each other is a little trickier.

As already stated it is a lot less hassle to buy a half decent PC (dual core, 2gb of ram £250 from dell) from a known PC manufacturer then adding the bits you need to make it more powerful, Graphics card, Sound card etc. Then you get warranty on the machine too.
banned#30
Johnmcl7
Motherboard model and manufacturer, processor, ram and graphics card would be a good start.

John



Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Duron, 2366 MHz (11 x 215)
Motherboard Name PCChips M810LR (2 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 AMR, 2 SDR DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset SiS 730S
System Memory [ TRIAL VERSION ]
BIOS Type AMI (09/14/01)

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation ROW-0
Type DIMM, SDRAM
Installed Size 256 MB
Enabled Size 256 MB

[ Memory Modules / ROW-1 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation ROW-1
Type DIMM, SDRAM
Installed Size 64 MB
Enabled Size 64 MB


Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 (Microsoft Corporation) (64 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
Monitor Delta DB-1765
#31
That's perfect sassie - that's not much ram and the graphics card is an old budget model, I think with a bit more ram and a slightly newer graphics card that system would be fine for light gaming. Just going to have a look at some part prices.

John
banned#32
Johnmcl7
That's perfect sassie - that's not much ram and the graphics card is an old budget model, I think with a bit more ram and a slightly newer graphics card that system would be fine for light gaming. Just going to have a look at some part prices.

John

yeah and its the memory that cost as it is so expensive cause its old :w00t:
#33
Well, 12 quid would bring you up to 512MB ram (assuming that's 1x256MB you have in there and can put one more in) and 21 pounds for the graphics card would substantially improve the performance. (plus delivery)

When you say Sims type games, any in particular? What operating system?

John
banned#34
Johnmcl7
Well, 12 quid would bring you up to 512MB ram (assuming that's 1x256MB you have in there and can put one more in) and 21 pounds for the graphics card would substantially improve the performance. (plus delivery)

When you say Sims type games, any in particular? What operating system?

John

she has all of the sims1 and sims2, then the rollercoaster type games

operating system - windows xp2 (i hope that is what operating system is :oops: )
banned#35
Does the memory tell you its pc100 or pc133 in the system report?

I would upgrade it rather than going to the expense of a whole new system.

Personally I would put 1gb in total, but removing the 64mb stick and adding a 512mb stick will work ok for games like the Sims/Sims2, and imporve it in general.
Good quality memory like Kingston or Crucial is worth getting rather than budget ram, IMO.

That gfx card is really holding back the 3d games, I would look at a bugdet card like the ATI 9250/9600 or better, or NVIDIA FX5200 or better still FX560.

Hope it helps :)
banned#36
The 64 is PC100 and the 256 is PC133, dont think you can get the PC100 now anyway
#37
Yep, that's it - XP service pack 2. 256MB ram is really not enough for XP even with light office use, 512MB is much better so I think that's one of the main reasons the machine will be running slowly.

The graphics card is an old one, in its day it was a low performance model so it's no surprise it's not much use now - something like this would offer signficantly better performance as well as DX9 support:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132545

It's not a proper 9600 Pro but it's still a bargain for the price, much better than the other cards Ebuyer are selling in that range which are memory crippled (only 64 bit) and not proper 9xxx series cards (9250 is a rebadged and slightly stripped 8500)

John
banned#38
so do you think its worth upgrading memory a little bit, or go for it big style :w00t:
banned#39
sassie
The 64 is PC100 and the 256 is PC133, dont think you can get the PC100 now anyway


Ah, so the pc133 is slowing down to match the pc100 speed.
Personally I would just take out the 64Mb stick and put a 512Mb in there. :)
#40
Yep, I agree with Soupy - you can get 512MB for around 25 quid, I think that would give a noticeable performance boost.

John

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