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how the hell are the people claiming 104 thousand pounds housing benefit

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banned6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
I know of one person whose rent for a 3 bedroom house is £600 per month and she has to put £150 a month towards it, so how is someone claiming £2000 a week in housing benefit
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banned6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
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banned#1
Didn't even know it was possible at that amount

Ludacris if u ask me
#2
Housing benefit allowances are dependant on local authority rates.
Without knowing the area and the amount of children, it's impossible to answer your question.



(This will end well).
banned#3
dj_urban
Didn't even know it was possible at that amount

Ludacris if u ask me



neither did i, thats just crazy
thesaint
Housing benefit allowances are dependant on local authority rates.


i understadd that, but surely a local authorities allowance can't be £2000 a week, not that i know what housing costs in different areas, but £2000 a week
#4
Is this the Queen we're discussing here?
#5
Scroungers down the road used to get £1200 per month for a 4-bedroom property as housing benefit. They've had another child and been duly rehoused in a very nice 5 bedroom property...
#6
sassie



i understadd that, but surely a local authorities allowance can't be £2000 a week, not that i know what housing costs in different areas, but £2000 a week


Why not? The top rate in my city is ~£995, and housing isn't particularly expensive here.

gaanja
Scroungers down the road used to get £1200 per month for a 4-bedroom property as housing benefit. They've had another child and been duly rehoused in a very nice 5 bedroom property...


An extra baby wouldn't have triggered them getting an additional payment for another bedroom.
#7
good old Uk
banned#8
intergeri
Is this the Queen we're discussing here?


maybe i only caught end of it :w00t:
banned 1 Like #9
because they are ******s
banned#10
thesaint
Why not? The top rate in my city is ~£995, and housing isn't particularly expensive here.


what city is that? and you say £995 a week? and if it is top rate what is bottom
#11
sassie
what city is that? and you say £995 a week? and if it is top rate what is bottom


God's own city(Leicester)

Bottom rate for someone entitled for the full allowance is ~£250 for a room in a shared house, £400 for a 1 bed, £500 for a 2 bed, £550 for a 3 bed, £750 for a 4 bed, and £995 for a 5 bed.
banned#12
thesaint
God's own city(Leicester)

Bottom rate for someone entitled for the full allowance is ~£250 for a room in a shared house, £400 for a 1 bed, £500 for a 2 bed, £550 for a 3 bed, £750 for a 4 bed, and £995 for a 5 bed.


that is for a month, not a week, surely
#13
sassie
that is for a month, not a week, surely


No thats what they pay you to live in Leicester every week
banned#14
boothy
No thats what they pay you to live in Leicester every week


why because no one else will - lol

anyway it is a month not a week, i am talking about £2000 a week
#15
i remember watching on the news sometime last year about a council paying for a family to live in a posh area in a house that was worth over half a million.


Edit - did a search and just beat that. This family were (back in 08) were living in a £1.2million house and the council was paying their rent of £12,500 a month, no including all other beneifts. I mean WTF.
banned#16
s_paul
i remember watching on the news sometime last year about a council paying for a family to live in a posh area in a house that was worth over half a million.


i dont think anyone should be made to live in a hovel, but come on, i dont know anywhere that costs £2000 per week to live in a rented standard home
#17
sassie
i dont think anyone should be made to live in a hovel, but come on, i dont know anywhere that costs £2000 per week to live in a rented standard home


normally immigrants in most cases...
banned#19


1.2 million council house with a private landlord receiving the housing benefit, do you think the daily mail have screwed up there, or the council are screwing the system :?
#20
God knows whats happened but i just shows where the money is going with big screw ups like this. I doubt theyd be the only family in this position as well.

I wish i could live in a house like that and have laptopns, plasma tvs etc


Found even more and one lived near to Paul McCartney
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23783970-benefits-rules-to-be-changed-after-family-is-handed-pound-18million-home.do

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250993/Single-mum-finds-mansion-net-gets-YOU-pay-7-000-month-rent.html
banned#21
s_paul
God knows whats happened but i just shows where the money is going with big screw ups like this. I doubt theyd be the only family in this position as well.

I wish i could live in a house like that and have laptopns, plasma tvs etc


Found even more and one lived near to Paul McCartney
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23783970-benefits-rules-to-be-changed-after-family-is-handed-pound-18million-home.do

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250993/Single-mum-finds-mansion-net-gets-YOU-pay-7-000-month-rent.html



so what is the goverment going to do, make them move out
#22
I noticed this today after the budget and checked the LHA rates at https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Secure/LHARateSearch.aspx?SearchType=PostCode.

I checked the city of westminister rates as its one of the most affluent areas in England and must be expensive to rent. Was shocked to see that you can get £350 a week for a 1 bedroom flat and upto £2000 per week for a 5 bedroom house.

To put it into context tho, this is a extreme and the £2000 a week is only for a 5 bedroom house in the most affluent part of the country, it is usually a lot lower in other parts of the country outside of London.

I totally agree that some of the LHA rates are way too high and glad it has been capped at £400 per week, tho I still think that £1600 a month for a 5 bedroom house is too much.

I think the wider issue is that there is not enough social and affordable housing available from councils and social landlords so more people have to rent from the private sector. As private landlords rent their property as a business the rent will invetibly be higher than a council house and so councils have to pay more in housing benefit to people who have to rent from the private sector as there is no available social housing.

Maybe government or local authorities would be better taking a longer term outlook in building more social and affordable housing rather than paying high rates of housing benefit to people renting in the private sector.
banned#23
boothy
normally immigrants in most cases...


source? or you just showing your true colours again?
banned#24
treble99
I noticed this today after the budget and checked the LHA rates at https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Secure/LHARateSearch.aspx?SearchType=PostCode.

I checked the city of westminister rates as its one of the most affluent areas in England and must be expensive to rent. Was shocked to see that you can get £350 a week for a 1 bedroom flat and upto £2000 per week for a 5 bedroom house.

To put it into context tho, this is a extreme and the £2000 a week is only for a 5 bedroom house in the most affluent part of the country, it is usually a lot lower in other parts of the country outside of London.

I totally agree that some of the LHA rates are way too high and glad it has been capped at £400 per week, tho I still think that £1600 a month for a 5 bedroom house is too much.

I think the wider issue is that there is not enough social and affordable housing available from councils and social landlords so more people have to rent from the private sector. As private landlords rent their property as a business the rent will invetibly be higher than a council house and so councils have to pay more in housing benefit to people who have to rent from the private sector as there is no available social housing.

Maybe government or local authorities would be better taking a longer term outlook in building more social and affordable housing rather than paying high rates of housing benefit to people renting in the private sector.


they sold off all the affordable housing, so can see why so many have to privately rent, but surely its cheaper for the council to buy existing homes than pay these amounts of rent in these posh areas
banned#25
bykergrove;8896115
source? or you just showing your true colours again?


Tell you what, it's nothing compared to the Housing Benefit received by the Queen.

As for housing benefit, I have a little insight into. Rent officers (scotland) will establish a local rate based on similar properties and confirm a market rate. The applicant will have to find the shortfall if the house is above the level established in the 6 month period. They will reduce the value of the house/flat if it contains any non essential items, or enhanced to a greater need than is required.


If the market rate is 2k, then what do you think should happen, the family split up and/or forced to move away ? However like most headlines, it does appear only to highlight one or two extremes, hardly a fair reflection.
#26
bykergrove
source? or you just showing your true colours again?


inb4 Daily Mail/BNP link.

sassie
they sold off all the affordable housing, so can see why so many have to privately rent, but surely its cheaper for the council to buy existing homes than pay these amounts of rent in these posh areas


Successive governments have failed to buy/build housing, so it must be harder than you and I think.
suspended#27
If they can't afford to live there in the first place then they shouldn't be given money for rent.
No wonder this countries having economy problems.
banned#28
aScottishBloke

Tell you what, it's nothing compared to the Housing Benefit received by the Queen.

i guess some people are happy to throw money at a family that no longer have any real power under the false assumption that they are being patriotic. rather than helping people that are trying to make a go of their lives without fear of being killed/thrown in jail for no valid reason.
thesaint
inb4 Daily Mail/BNP link.

good spot, only kosher links as sources please boothy
#29
s_paul
i remember watching on the news sometime last year about a council paying for a family to live in a posh area in a house that was worth over half a million.


Edit - did a search and just beat that. This family were (back in 08) were living in a £1.2million house and the council was paying their rent of £12,500 a month, no including all other beneifts. I mean WTF.


I remember that, I think it was an Afgan family too. I remember her saying something like "It's nice living here but I hate cleaning sucha big house!" (In front of her 50" plasma tv).
banned#30
thesaint
inb4 Daily Mail/BNP link.



Successive governments have failed to buy/build housing, so it must be harder than you and I think.


possibly to many purses/wallets/jam jars or whatever you want to call them with no one really caring, bit like all goverment funding
banned#31
aScottishBloke

Tell you what, it's nothing compared to the Housing Benefit received by the Queen.

As for housing benefit, I have a little insight into. Rent officers (scotland) will establish a local rate based on similar properties and confirm a market rate. The applicant will have to find the shortfall if the house is above the level established in the 6 month period. They will reduce the value of the house/flat if it contains any non essential items, or enhanced to a greater need than is required.

If the market rate is 2k, then what do you think should happen, the family split up and/or forced to move away ? However like most headlines, it does appear only to highlight one or two extremes, hardly a fair reflection.


hang on of all the cases i have seen, they have come to this area to pick the mansion, not already living in the area, or having family in the area, or lost their jobs whilst in the accomodation, etc,etc, they are in this position when they choose the luxury of a mansion :?
#32
aScottishBloke

Tell you what, it's nothing compared to the Housing Benefit received by the Queen.

.


source?

doesnt the queen still own the crown estate which generates over £200 million a year?

private landlords is the answer to the question and with there not being enough "council houses" to accomodate so the government has no choice but to pay

not sure how things are gonna work with the caps
#34
[FONT=Arial]I would love to cap my landlords rent! :-D I wonder what he would say:?: :lol:[/FONT]
#35
I know who gets that benefit!
Its an M. P!!!!!!
#36
thesaint
Housing benefit allowances are dependant on local authority rates


As thesaint says, it is different depending on where you are housed.

Although the budget yesterday addressed this issue and set it to a maximum of £400 a week I believe?

If £400 isn't enough for where you live then you have to either pay the difference or move to a smaller dwelling/cheaper area.
#37
Boogie83e
[FONT=Arial]I would love to cap my landlords rent! :-D I wonder what he would say:?: :lol:[/FONT]


"get out you are evicted"...... more than likely;-)
#38
PhearFactor
As thesaint says, it is different depending on where you are housed.

Although the budget yesterday addressed this issue and set it to a maximum of £400 a week I believe?

If £400 isn't enough for where you live then you have to either pay the difference or move to a smaller dwelling/cheaper area.


Hope this ends the con where people come to the UK, the only have to work for one day - they are then entitled to housing benefits etc...
#39
KAC
Hope this ends the con where people come to the UK, the only have to work for one day - they are then entitled to housing benefits etc...


what is this con exactly?

being an asylum seeker?

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