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How to cope without running water

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9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6912007.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6912007.stm

Most of it is common sense stuff, personally, if I was sticking around in a flood ridden home or a service stricken home no water/leccy etc, I'd be wondering where to obtain clean water/obtain food (if load roads not flooded local supermarkets etc will have no power)/keep refrigerators going, cheap gennys are available but that'll run 1 fridge freezer, small tv at best and charge mobile, possibly charge laptop too, oven/microwave/leccy stove/living room tv/desktop pc's, all too powerful.

Time for everyone to invest in water collectors, dried foods and portable calor gas stoves? :)
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9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
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#1
I've been wondering about this too. I live by a river and we are on a flood warning. I have been planning what to take upstairs first. But I have a few dilemmas:
I have a diesel generator which will run the microwave, television, fridge, kettle etc so long as I use them one at a time. But if I use it upstairs instead of outside will I get carbon monoxide poisoning?
If I buy bottled water, the best place to keep it would be in the shed. But the shed is at the river end of my garden so the bottles would get contaminated because the flood water would hit the shed before it gets to the house. So do I take the bottled water upstairs and take up valuable space that could be used for more expensive things?
If I take the dog upstairs, where would she go to the toilet? And if I need to be rescued by a helicopter...do they save dogs or just humans?
Fingers crossed I won't actually need to do any of these things.
banned#2
wow you really have thought that through havent you,you also could use the stairs to put some stuff on
#3
Now there's a thought. I could put a bottle of water on each step.:thumbsup:
#4
I thought about the generator and carbon monoxide poisoning aswell, I don't think it would be able to be run indoors unless the fumes could be channeled out properly.
#5
Do you think it would work if I put the generator in the bathroom with the window open and the fan on and ran an extension cable through to a bedroom?
I must put bottled water and a carbon monoxide detector on my shopping list.
Note to self...take house insurance documents upstairs.
#6
my auntie is currently stuck in cheltnam with no water, no electric. shes filled a bath with water(for the toilet), has several buckets in the garden collecting, and severn trent were giving out free water.

Plus what doesn't help is, she is about 2 miles from the local sewage works which is at high risk of flooding and could mean thousands of people being evacuated from their homes.
#7
jamesterror
my auntie is currently stuck in cheltnam with no water, no electric. shes filled a bath with water(for the toilet), has several buckets in the garden collecting, and severn trent were giving out free water.

Plus what doesn't help is, she is about 2 miles from the local sewage works which is at high risk of flooding and could mean thousands of people being evacuated from their homes.


Poor Auntie. :? I hope she will be ok.
The toilet thing is another thing I've been wondering about. If you flush the toilet (even with bath water) doesn't that just add to the water at the sewage works and increase the risk of flooding?
#8
Christmasshopper
Poor Auntie. :? I hope she will be ok.
The toilet thing is another thing I've been wondering about. If you flush the toilet (even with bath water) doesn't that just add to the water at the sewage works and increase the risk of flooding?


Thanks.

Yeh it does, also the water is even more likely to be contaminated with infections and probably disease.
#9
Christmasshopper
Do you think it would work if I put the generator in the bathroom with the window open and the fan on and ran an extension cable through to a bedroom?


Just reading up on it, A generator should [COLOR="Red"]never[/COLOR] be used indoors, Because you can't smell the Co2, The Co2 builds up very quickly and while you can smell diesel fumes, You can't see or smell Co2, So its potentially fatal.

Christmasshopper
I must put bottled water and a carbon monoxide detector on my shopping list.
Note to self...take house insurance documents upstairs.


On the documents side of things, I'd stick everything important in an air tight container, Just incase.
#10
Is there no way the generator could be used outside?
#11
Iom-RF
Is there no way the generator could be used outside?


Too costy for the government.
#12
Iom-RF
Is there no way the generator could be used outside?


Under normal circumstances the generator is only ever used outside. What I am considering is what to do if the garden and street are 4ft deep in dirty river water. :?
#13
Christmasshopper
Under normal circumstances the generator is only ever used outside. What I am considering is what to do if the garden and street are 4ft deep in dirty river water. :?


I really don't know.

The generator would need to be kept dry and on sturdy ground, What about in a shed etc?
#14
Iom-RF
I really don't know.

The generator would need to be kept dry and on sturdy ground, What about in a shed etc?


Still, shed's aren't really that high off the ground unless you sandbag it up, but the liklyness of it already being flooded is high as ours is about 5/6inches off the ground, and people saying its 4ft puts it out the window.
#15
jamesterror
Still, shed's aren't really that high off the ground unless you sandbag it up, but the liklyness of it already being flooded is high as ours is about 5/6inches off the ground, and people saying its 4ft puts it out the window.


I was thinking maybe make a shelf etc at the highest point of the shed, Not sure how stable that would be though and it would be a sod to start!
#16
Iom-RF
I was thinking maybe make a shelf etc at the highest point of the shed, Not sure how stable that would be though and it would be a sod to start!


Yeh most likely be a problem with shed support since there not the sturdiest things, and generators aren't light at all, knowing that a shelf wouldn't be able to handle the weight. If you have a bench, side, whatever you prefer to call it in the garage, that'd be an idea since we have one which is about 3ft half off the ground and would work a treat.
#17
Yeah, A table/bench would be best.
#18
That's settled that then. If the river bursts it's banks I'm leaving! There is no way I'm going to try to sit it out balancing a generator on top of the shed, with a dog pooing in my bedrooms and bottled water up my stairs. I'll be off to stay with friends until it's all over!
#19
Christmasshopper
That's settled that then. If the river bursts it's banks I'm leaving! There is no way I'm going to try to sit it out balancing a generator on top of the shed, with a dog pooing in my bedrooms and bottled water up my stairs. I'll be off to stay with friends until it's all over!


Best option by far!! :giggle: :)
#20
Just one last question:
If a friend turned up at your house with a wet dog, how many bottles of wine would she need to bring before you would let them in?
:giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
#21
Christmasshopper
Just one last question:
If a friend turned up at your house with a wet dog, how many bottles of wine would she need to bring before you would let them in?
:giggle: :giggle: :giggle:


A case full! :thumbsup:
#22
Right I'm off to pack a case full of wine before I go to bed.
Goodnight Iom-RF. Goodnight James.
#23
Iom-RF
A case full! :thumbsup:


Say, you'll take her out for the night of her life. Then offer her a bottle of wine :)
#24
Christmasshopper
Right I'm off to pack a case full of wine before I go to bed.
Goodnight Iom-RF. Goodnight James.


The case full of wine is for you of course, Just to calm the nerves a bit after all the flooding panic!! :thumbsup:

Night Christmasshopper!! :)
#25
Christmasshopper
Right I'm off to pack a case full of wine before I go to bed.
Goodnight Iom-RF. Goodnight James.


Iom-RF is right, bribe her with the wine to get in. Then sorted :)

Goodnight :)
#26
cant u put the generator on the roof ?
#27
Sheds/roofs tend to be slated so the water flows away and doesn't gather up I thought, meaning most houses have no open air place with cover a genny could cope, over a flat garage is possible but how protected against the elements would it be?
#28
Would you believe it? The river has overflown it's banks. The water level is predicted to peak at 3am. I'm staying up just in case it starts to get too close. And what am I doing? I'm watering my tubs and hanging baskets! I got home at about 11pm and they are wilting because they are so dry. What crazy weather we are having. :?

Anyone fancy keeping me company while I wait up? :roll:
#29
So does that mean your garden is at a higher risk of flooding now or the whole house??
banned#30
Christmasshopper
Would you believe it? The river has overflown it's banks. The water level is predicted to peak at 3am. I'm staying up just in case it starts to get too close. And what am I doing? I'm watering my tubs and hanging baskets! I got home at about 11pm and they are wilting because they are so dry. What crazy weather we are having. :?

Anyone fancy keeping me company while I wait up? :roll:


I'll wait with you, but people don't like my company. The last person to spend more than 30mins with me threw themselves in a river - they went through greater difficulty finding a river than you would have to.
#31
Iom-RF
So does that mean your garden is at a higher risk of flooding now or the whole house??


I don't know. The house is 16 years old and it has never flooded. The river usually floods on the opposite side of the bank to us, which is a flood plain. However, last year a new housing estate was built on the flood plain. They built a lake with the houses backing on to them. The houses have their own jetties with boats tied up outside. Their private lake leads to the river.
This year, for the first time since our house was built, we are getting flood warnings for our side of the river. I suppose if the flood plain can't take the excess water, it has to go somewhere. I just hope that somewhere isn't my house.
I went for a walk down to the river about 2 hours ago and it is higher than I have ever seen it before. I have been checking the internet regularly and it is predicting that 17 houses on our side of the river will be overwhelmed at 3am. Those 17 houses are about 1/3 mile from me. If they are going to be overwhelmed I expect we will at the very least get our gardens watered!
banned#32
Christmasshopper
I don't know. The house is 16 years old and it has never flooded. The river usually floods on the opposite side of the bank to us, which is a flood plain. However, last year a new housing estate was built on the flood plain. They built a lake with the houses backing on to them. The houses have their own jetties with boats tied up outside. Their private lake leads to the river.
This year, for the first time since our house was built, we are getting flood warnings for our side of the river. I suppose if the flood plain can't take the excess water, it has to go somewhere. I just hope that somewhere isn't my house.
I went for a walk down to the river about 2 hours ago and it is higher than I have ever seen it before. I have been checking the internet regularly and it is predicting that 17 houses on our side of the river will be overwhelmed at 3am. Those 17 houses are about 1/3 mile from me. If they are going to be overwhelmed I expect we will at the very least get our gardens watered!


Good luck. If you see cod, worry.
#33
If I see cod it will probably mean that the Yummy Yummy Chippy is flooded too. :giggle:

Thanks for keeping me company JDeal. :thumbsup:
banned#34
Did I say cod? I meant god.
#35
I don't think I'll be seeng God. He's in my daughter's bad books at the moment. As far as she's concered it's his job to sort out the weather and she is not impressed with the way he's doing it. If he's got any sense he'll give her a wide berth until he gets the weather right!
banned#36
Do you know what I like doing when I think a floods coming? I like to blow anything inflatable up.

I was just wondering what today would have been like if the time that Noah (and his ark) had crossed paths with Moses? There would have been Moses struggling to keep his people dry, whilst Noah, not concentrating as he was just releasing a dove, steered straight into the split water. The ark crashes to the ground; Moses, shocked, lapses his own concentration and the two walls of water come crashing down. Everybody swept away in the current. All except that dove, who upon realising there was no land returns to the ark, but the arks gone. The dove flys round for a further 6 days and nights before plunging into the water after severe tiredness. Only to find the water level has dropped, so only gets it's wing tips wet. Momentarily, the dove is relieved. But then realises he's the only dove, get's depressed, gambles and dies of a drug overdose.

Awful.
#37
Lucky it didn't happen that way JDeal.

I've got an inflatable armchair and an inflatable pugle stick. Do you think I should blow them up?
banned#38
Christmasshopper
Lucky it didn't happen that way JDeal.

I've got an inflatable armchair and an inflatable pugle stick. Do you think I should blow them up?


I would. It calms the nerves.

You actually have the perfect inflatable combination for a one-man rowing boat. Intentional, I bet. We knew you were prepared, but!
#39
JDeal
I would. It calms the nerves.

You actually have the perfect inflatable combination for a one-man rowing boat. Intentional, I bet. We knew you were prepared, but!


I feel so much better now I know that my subconcious is more organised than the rest of me. Thank you for pointing that out.:-D
I can hear a helicopter. Do you think that is a good sign?:?
banned#40
Ermm...

I don't know. It could be any number of things, your rich neighbours fleeing, a general helicopter night flight, a search and rescue team or even a police helicopter trying to track a stray convict. The list is endless.

Have you looked out the window for swimming hedgehogs?

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