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How to get the best from my memory?

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I had 512mb DDR memory in my pc and have just took that out and put in 2 X 1GB DDR memory. Do i have to do anything on my pc to make them work better? Its not as fast as i expected but can see a sl… Read More
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8y, 11m agoPosted 8 years, 11 months ago
I had 512mb DDR memory in my pc and have just took that out and put in 2 X 1GB DDR memory.

Do i have to do anything on my pc to make them work better? Its not as fast as i expected but can see a slight difference.

Thanks to all posts.
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8y, 11m agoPosted 8 years, 11 months ago
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#1
You can optimize your RAM amongst other settings, I use System Mechanic for this, try it out you get a 30 day free trial.
#2
That's really spooky. I have the same memory and ordered the 2 x 1GB memory yesterday as I was told this would make a difference. I'm expecting something amazing - but by the sounds of your post I'm gonna be disappointed!!!
Sorry I'm not helping you though x
#3
unfortunately sp2 insists on allocating the same amount of hard disk space to the swap file as you have ram installed.
basically that means the benefit of having 2gb ram is offset by now having 2gb of very slow disk based memory probably on a very fragmented hard drive.

A tweak to off set this and i've done it on my own machines for at least 10yrs is turn off the swap file, don't worry you can reverse this tweak if one of your programs objects to it (very rare)

so system properties is where this setting is,
1 right click on my computer select properties,
2 go to the advanced page,
3 click the settings button at top near performance
4 the middle page is "advanced" click on that
5 near the bottom is a button "change" click that
6 Select the c: drive in top box and further down select "no paging file"
7 press the "set" button then ok and ok and reboot,
give it ago and defrag after the reboot.
There may be a notice comes up on logon if so post back i will explain how to deal with this!
#4
if there are still memory slots available why dont you use the 512mb and get 1.5 gb memory?
#5
have you put them in the right slots so thay run as a matched pair rather than being addressed seperately? (check mobo manual if you are unsure of correct installation to run in matched pair mode)
#6
maddogb
unfortunately sp2 insists on allocating the same amount of hard disk space to the swap file as you have ram installed.
basically that means the benefit of having 2gb ram is offset by now having 2gb of very slow disk based memory probably on a very fragmented hard drive.

A tweak to off set this and i've done it on my own machines for at least 10yrs is turn off the swap file, don't worry you can reverse this tweak if one of your programs objects to it (very rare)

so system properties is where this setting is,
1 right click on my computer select properties,
2 go to the advanced page,
3 click the settings button at top near performance
4 the middle page is "advanced" click on that
5 near the bottom is a button "change" click that
6 Select the c: drive in top box and further down select "no paging file"
7 press the "set" button then ok and ok and reboot,
give it ago and defrag after the reboot.
There may be a notice comes up on logon if so post back i will explain how to deal with this!


or you could reduce page file -- personally i wouldnt remove it entirely as if you do anything like video-editing etc you might run in to problems...
#7
De-fragmenting your hard disk often gives some surprisingly good results. :)
#8
Bear in mind ram is only used when it's needed (Vista is slightly different but performance wise much the same), unless you have applications that need 2GB ram you're not going to notice the difference (again Vista is a little different and really needs the 2GB ram)

John
#9
Yeah, you'll begin to notice it when you're doing more stuff.

The speed at which things are done is limited by your processor. The amount you can do is limited by the memory.
#10
Cheers thanks for the replies. I didnt know about that Johnmcl7 so thanks for pointing it out.

In response to dt_matthews and nuabdi i put them both in the same section and originally left the 512mb one in as well but when i turned on my pc it didnt start up properly and just kept beeping about every few seconds... was pretty strange.

Going to see how it goes for now put will keep the hints in mind.

Many thanks.
#11
I guess there are 5 main things that affect computer performance.

1) Speed of processor
2) Amount and speed of RAM memory
3) Speed data moves around motherboard (BUS speed)
4) Speed of hard disk
5) Amount of swapping to virtual memory

(maybe hard disk fragmentation will also have an effect)

The first 4 are directly hardware related, the fifth is a Windows process.

If you are very low on RAM memory then often it can fill up if you start a few programs. Windows gets round this by swapping some data from RAM (real) memory out to hard disk, to "virtual memory" (page file). In computer terms this swapping of data is a fairly slow process.

If Windows needs the data that is out in "virtual" memory it swaps it back into "real" memory, and swaps other data out to "virtual" memory to make space.

This continuous swapping of data back and forth from real to virtual memory can really slow your computer down. In fact if you are VERY low on real memory Windows can spend so much time swapping that your computer grinds to a halt (this is called thrashing).

Now it may be that with your original 512Mb of memory your computer ran OK and did not do much swapping.

If that is the case, the extra 1.5Gb of memory you have added will not really speed up the computer that much as the computer did not really need it.

The time you WILL notice a difference is if you do a very computer intensive job like video editing, but if all you do is surf the web and do a few e-mails this extra memory will make very little difference.
#12
I think you've received some very valid and good suggestions :) Just to add to it though, I think you've done the right thing with upgrading the memory, I'm running (currently ) firefox with a few tabs, an windows explorer window and MS outlook and using more than 600MB of memory on an optimized Win XP box, with 512MB RAM your system would've been paging for sure... With 2GB RAM what you'd notice is less lag when doing more although on start up and opening up your first few apps might not show a lot of performance increase, less crashes due to thrashing and more CPU usage doing actual work against CPU usage for swapping data and less Hard Disk access usage due to less paging.


Defragment regularly and apply the above suggestions if you want to and that's the best you can get out of your system really :D
#13
alchemistkevin
I think you've received some very valid and good suggestions :) Just to add to it though, I think you've done the right thing with upgrading the memory, I'm running (currently ) firefox with a few tabs, an windows explorer window and MS outlook and using more than 600MB of memory on an optimized Win XP box, with 512MB RAM your system would've been paging for sure... With 2GB RAM what you'd notice is less lag when doing more although on start up and opening up your first few apps might not show a lot of performance increase, less crashes due to thrashing and more CPU usage doing actual work against CPU usage for swapping data and less Hard Disk access usage due to less paging.


Ouch, I had no idea windows XP used up so much memory.

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