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I have a lot of money to buy a laptop, any suggestions for the following requirements

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8y, 8m agoPosted 8 years, 8 months ago
Ok, I have around £1700 to spend on a new laptop for my local Pre-School and naturally i came to HUKD first. However i have certain requirements. We are going for one with a large screen, We need to plug extra child friendly mouse and keyboard so lots of usb options and we need one that will last us a while. Some of that money we will be using on software and the mouse and keyboard, oh and we need it to be able to connect to a wireless router at some point.
But thats about it.
I have no idea where to start and look so any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks
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8y, 8m agoPosted 8 years, 8 months ago
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1 Like #1
I'd say an Apple Macbook Pro 17"

...but then i am a mac user myself....

(if you are buying it for a school, you can get education discount as well)
#2
Well i did venture off into the mac shop and get a quote, but we decided as very few parents or staff have much to do wih computers and that we had better stick to a windows one. (you can tell i dont know much about them)
1 Like #3
Your requirements aint over the top, I'd imagine they'd come as standard with a medium range laptop costing £500 - £600, sure you can blow your money buying features that you'll never use but I wouldnt recommend it. I bought this Vostro for £360 in January, and it seems so outdated just a few months later. So I'd suggest perhaps spending half of your budget on a laptop that will do you for now, and then when you feel like theres much better deals around that you would could have waited for then buy another. Peripherals costs next to nothing anyways (including a usb hub) just check the deals on HUKD.

Zak.
1 Like #4
contact the council purchasing department and see what they can do for you f they have any link to the pre school. you'll get education discount and vat price :)
#5
ZAC-Thanks, as it is a grant we have to make our minds up by the 31st of march so we have at least got it down on paper what we have ordered. Thats why i dont know where to start as it seems silly to spend all that on like you say features we may never use. I just wondered if anyone thought a specific make was better or whatleast amount of spec should i be looking to get. Although i know they will become out of date wuite quickly
1 Like #6
If you have £1700, why not get 3 or 4 decent laptops, so more children can benefit from it.

A dell £500 laptop should be enough. Keep a look out for any posts in the deals section.
#7
i say by a pc a lot more powerful and last a long time don't break down easily. Also you can use money to buy a lot of software for the children to learn and play .
1 Like #8
also pc you can buy a bigger screen to suit ur school. heheh you can buy a few too..... look at [url]www.pcworld.co.uk[/url] , [url]www.comet.co.uk[/url]
1 Like #9
Does it all have to go on one laptop, isn't there a chance you could get a good laptop and a projector, that way then the whole class could see what's being done on the screen?
#10
To be honest, we dont actually think the children will be able to use them that often and so we decided that they would be able to be used for the committee and staff. I may put the question to them though about getting a couple. The other problem with having a PC is that we are based in a village Hall and we cant store it away everyday unfortunately.

Does anyone recommend an extended warranty? or something like that
1 Like #11
miffy121

Unfortunately the £1700 is not supposed to be used for the children, you were supposed to get a laptop printer broadband support and this was for the kids. However the DFES could not carry the funding over to the next year. The £1700 is now to upgrade your current office equipment and software. I suggest you call the person on the letter who will confirm this (well Derbyshire did for me), i did say i was going to get a couple of laptops for the kids and i was informed not to do it.

I ended up getting a sony vaio ar61m and a very good network printer, a 22inch widescreen monitor and still £500 left.
#12
get a good laptop, wih the change buy a 50" lcd tv, connect them up and you will also have a cinema, well worth 1700, ok maybe a ps3 for the kids just for the end of year party.

lol, what a class that would be.:-D
#13
Bacardi
miffy121

Unfortunately the £1700 is not supposed to be used for the children, you were supposed to get a laptop printer broadband support and this was for the kids. However the DFES could not carry the funding over to the next year. The £1700 is now to upgrade your current office equipment and software. I suggest you call the person on the letter who will confirm this (well Derbyshire did for me), i did say i was going to get a couple of laptops for the kids and i was informed not to do it.

I ended up getting a sony vaio ar61m and a very good network printer, a 22inch widescreen monitor and still £500 left.

Well at the moment i am just the person who is supposed to gather the info on the laptop. We have had mixed messages about what we are buying the computer stuff for as we didnt think it would work for us within the preschool. I dont know what is actually listed on the form from the grant people but i was asked to look for a laptop and thought i would ask on here first what people would go for.
I personally think it is a lot of money for 1 laptop. Where did you get the laptop from that you mentioned above?
#14
£1700 is definitely overkill for a notebook. Anything above £800 is designed primarily for gaming, unless your going to be playing Call of Duty you will be wasting anything spent above that mark.

The only way you going to spend that sort of money on one laptop without tons of added features is going for one of the smaller 12.1" notebooks designed for portability. But as you mentioned in your main post you want a large screen, so that is pointless also.

Now if you bought from Dell you could customise it and go for a faster processor which can add a far few quid. Also more memory is a suggestion, pushing it up to the maximum (4GB) which is overkill but you get your monies worth and it more than likely it will extend the life of the laptop.

Other options are; a Blu-Ray capable drive, that will set you back a good £300, but it will most likely not be something you will use this year, or next. A larger hard disk drive is also a possible addition, although this will not increase the price much. A 4 year hardware support from Dell may come in handy, more than likely that warranty will out live the laptop so when you do start getting problems, Dell will sort it out. That can add another £100 or more.

I priced up a laptop maxed out on Dell without Blu-ray and it comes to about £1300 - leaving you £400 for other stuff. You could buy a USB Hub for more USB ports, lots of software, mice (plural, they break down easily with children) and keyboards too for that matter. I suggest you get that stuff from your local PC shop though and not from Dell.

If you do decide to spend the maximum you can on a laptop, try to do it without improving the graphics or operating system, as both of these things can add a lot of money to the price with very little gain.

Good luck!
suspended#15
If you have to get just one have a look at Dells XPS as they have 13" 15" 17" and 20" models and Dell have great after care service which a lot of other firms dont, if you get the XPS you get next day replacement if something goes wrong, it might be worth phoning Dell and explaining what you need and they might give you a good offer. However if you can buy more than one I agree with the other person that you'd be better off buying 3 or 4 cheaper models so more people can make use of them, theyve come down so much you can pick up decent ones for about £400, there again Id ask Dell for advice, (and no I dont work for them).
#16
i bought mine from pc world derby ( i assume you may well be in Derbyshire offering 15hrs a week?)

visit pc world website and search for item 238561 It is Sony vgm-ar61m i managed to get around £185 off that price. I also bought HP Officejet Pro L7680 - Network-ready Printer, Scanner, Copier & Fax - All In One Printer item 990895 and finally a Acer X223W - 22" Widescreen TFT Monitor item 539721.

I may well get another laptop i can not make my mind up but i am trying to get the mobile broadband put through

Btw
you could buy 15 laptops for £100 if you can get a vat receipt. Also it does not have to be a laptop it can be anything to upgrade your I.T sofware,desktop,monitors,printers etc or even how about nursery management software?

cheers
#17
Get a big SONY VAIO it should be perfect as they have a large screen and a good keyboard.
#18
I come across many such requirements quite often. These are usually by persons who DON'T really understand PC/laptop hardware (and why should they).
You need to communicate what are your intended uses are. Many a people are under the assumption that the more money you throw at a PC the better the performance. Yes and No is the usual answer.
As an analogy, why buy a 7.5 ton lorry, when a transit van would suffice your transportation needs? One has to look at the 'wasted space' or the resources that are not used, and to their costs involved. :thinking:
For an average user of email, web browsing, educational software, WP etc, you will not see a lot of difference between a machine that costs £500 and another at £1700. :?
Find yourself an impartial expert (or even here in HUKD), to determine what type of machine specification would suffice your needs and budget. :thumbsup:
#19
As others have said, if you are only allowed to buy 1 machine, your best bet is to get a decent, powerful yet portable laptop - budget around £700-£800, then some other useful peripherals. A large monitor and quality keyboard and mouse would be good, a projector might be very useful and you could get a colour laser printer with spare ink and still have money left over. If you bought a 14" or smaller laptop this would have portability if needed and the external monitor/keyboard/mouse would be useful when it was in its 'usual' location.

Don't rule out the Mac options - they are great quality hardware, easy to use and you have the option of installing Windows on them if you think you won't be able to live without it (although for most uses, especially with the kids, OS-X is probably nicer...) You are probably entitled to the Apple educational discount which brings their hardware not far off-line with PC equivalents.
banned#20
No offence, but just because you have a budget of £1700 does not mean you need to spend it, especially considering you don't even know why you need one.

Is the money coming from taxpayers?
#21
i used to do some support for a junior school who insisted on buying an expensive laptop against my advice.
Really couldnt help but giggle when little johnny and his friend got into a scrap over who could use the attached mouse, and dragged it off the table onto the floor, teacher only looked away for a second to return his gaze to a pile of scrap
#22
Hi, thankyou for all your comments, csiman- I dont intend to use the whole of the 1700 for the laptop i understand what you are saying but let me put your mind at rest and say we feel the same way.

I have read all the posts and have got far more info on what i need to do than i would have got if i had of gone into a shop which is why i posted. When i go to shops i just get them trying to sell me something full stop.

My understanding of it all is that we dont need to go above £800 tops to get a laptop for our use.

As for the children actually using them is a little over the top since my daughter is just finishing preschool and can only just use the mouse on our computer.
So i think it is like someone has said above the grant was meant more for the adults.

I will be sensible and go and look for a cheaper laptop, some software and then talk to the people who have given us the grant and find out what else we could use the money for to upgrade the IT.
1 Like #23
Im surprised nobody has mentioned that with it being a preshool you may want something more robust, so i'd recommend a Panasonic Toughbook, very solidly built and can handle being knocked about or even dropped, something like THIS????

Video of how tough they are

They also come with a standard 3 year manufacturers warranty.
#24
harlzter
Im surprised nobody has mentioned that with it being a preshool you may want something more robust, so i'd recommend a Panasonic Toughbook, very solidly built and can handle being knocked about or even dropped, something like THIS????

Video of how tough they are

They also come with a standard 3 year manufacturers warranty.


The money is not for Pre-school children. It is given to nurserys to improve the OFFICE I.T so you do not need a more robust machine, unless you are a hamfisted adult.
#25
miffy121;1737283
As for the children actually using them is a little over the top since my daughter is just finishing preschool and can only just use the mouse on our computer.
So i think it is like someone has said above the grant was meant more for the adults.

I dont know our eldest two kids at 5 and 7 are very computer savvy and could both control a mouse at aged 3+, they now use our trackball on the main pc and know how to shut it down and start it up, they can use the trackball with great accuracy and speed too they can get from the desktop to the internet and select a bookmark faster than both their mum and I!!! Its amazing how quickly they learn at a younger age as they had computers in their nursery, when I first saw them I didnt think it was suitable for their age due to being complex but I was wrong, and as for our daughter at seven she can figure out puzzles on online sites much easier than we can!
Never underestimate the nippers!!!!
#26
harlzter
I dont know our eldest two kids at 5 and 7 are very computer savvy and could both control a mouse at aged 3+, they now use our trackball on the main pc and know how to shut it down and start it up, they can use the trackball with great accuracy and speed too they can get from the desktop to the internet and select a bookmark faster than both their mum and I!!! Its amazing how quickly they learn at a younger age as they had computers in their nursery, when I first saw them I didnt think it was suitable for their age due to being complex but I was wrong, and as for our daughter at seven she can figure out puzzles on online sites much easier than we can!
Never underestimate the nippers!!!!

i know what you are saying, its just the whole situation of having a computer in preschool, having the time to set it up and get someone to sit with them the whole time. It is more practical in a nursery where the room is set up all the time but not when things have to be packed away everyday. If a child there can use the computer alredy that would ok, but if they cant then we practically wouldn't have the time to sit and show them.

As bacardi says above, i think it is more for the office side but i think we thought ther was a lot money and we could use it for the child friendly perifials. I am inclined to think that it is not the case and so i will put forward the suggestion that we choose something around the £500-£600 mark and try and find some decent software.
#27
What sort of software are you thinking of? Decent software to me is free software :)

I guess you probably "can't live without" Office - although OpenOffice is a very good alternative - but what else do you think you will need to get? I suppose a few suites of learning games and stuff for the kids but they should all be relatively cheap. Best spend the extra on good quality peripherals...

Not sure if the budget will allow it but a decent digital camera would be a nice idea. A decent photo-inkjet printer and perhaps also a colour laser printer if you have the space for it (or perhaps an all-in-one printer with scanner..). Definately consider a projector though - you can get a decent one for £300-£400 and it will allow you to involve all the kids at once... (And watch big-screen movies at home in your spare time!)
#28
i quite like the idea of getting the laptop for the adults and buying a projetor to use alongside it for the kids, maybe bacardi knows if that would be acceptable or not.
#29
harlzter
I dont know our eldest two kids at 5 and 7 are very computer savvy and could both control a mouse at aged 3+, they now use our trackball on the main pc and know how to shut it down and start it up, they can use the trackball with great accuracy and speed too they can get from the desktop to the internet and select a bookmark faster than both their mum and I!!! Its amazing how quickly they learn at a younger age as they had computers in their nursery, when I first saw them I didnt think it was suitable for their age due to being complex but I was wrong, and as for our daughter at seven she can figure out puzzles on online sites much easier than we can!
Never underestimate the nippers!!!!


lol they ain't that smart, most people use the power button

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